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over 12 years ago

Part of the reason I coach the older youth grades is that I want to make a big difference to their thinking both on and off the pitch and to give them new ideas.


By this age they can play football, and have an understanding of the rules etc, but need that guidance, fun aspect as well as seriousness to keep them involved in the sport. At my previous club I had a lad who at the start of my time there would never make a starting 11 if it was picked on strength and ability, but over the 2 years I coached he missed 1 training session and game because he wanted to be there and he wanted to learn. He was a great lad who would talk to you as a coach and see how it was going and areas he could improve on.


By the 2nd year he was one of the 1st guys I would put on the team sheet.... he was not a skill player, he was a grafter and would do absolutely anything you asked of him because he had respect for you as a coach. When I left the club he tried out for his schools 1st 11 and from my perspective it was so great when he got in.... I still see him about all the time and he'll come up and chat and see how things are going... 


This is the sort of thing it's all about..... I coach younger ages every day with my business, working with the older ages makes it more interesting and mixes things up for me also. But to make sure the players improve I do some things regularly, but I also make sure I mix it up so the players don't know what to expect... If it's always the same they get bored or will start to miss sessions.... If they don't know what's coming they stay alert.

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over 12 years ago

Really good moment at the recent Mainland Awards breakfast (really good event by the way, congrats to Colin Grant and Mainland Football for trying something different and succeeding) when Andy Pitman received his trophy from Ernie Merrick for men's player of the year. Earlier during his talk around football Ernie had described how every team has it's different player types - artisans, tradesmen, intellectuals etc and how he saw Siggy as a panel beater. Pitts piped up how after all these years he now had a readily defined role - as a panel beater.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Some good stories there. Was the 72 year old Mr Peter Mulgrew?

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over 12 years ago

Pete Marley. Legend.

I have plenty more but I'll save them for another time .....

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Pete Marley. Legend.

I have plenty more but I'll save them for another time .....

Sh*8 got that wrong didn't I but yes thats who I was thinking about. Played against him and and may have got the odd Housie winnings from him at the Esplanade. 

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over 12 years ago
Scottie Rd wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Pete Marley. Legend.

I have plenty more but I'll save them for another time .....

Sh*8 got that wrong didn't I but yes thats who I was thinking about. Played against him and and may have got the odd Housie winnings from him at the Esplanade. 


In later years that was his training regime - jog from his home in Aranui a couple of k's down to the Esplanade, couple of quiet ones then jog home again, most days. When they changed the rules and made you compulsorily wear shin pads he shoved bits of cardboard in his socks to maintain speed.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

The MPL is dire.

That is all.

Thanks for that, with so much insight I take it your real name is David Beckham?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

I cant visit a thread on this site without this guy whinging about something. I suppose the MPL selection process is flawed too is it? Coaches not good enough? 


I guess my main question after your ravings on the Jack McKnight thread would be, how old is your child if he didn't make the MPL either?

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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over 12 years ago

Course it's flawed! But the problems started in the 10th grade, so you eventually end up with a footballing desert we have in seniors.

If you think it isn't dire then you need to watch more football from overseas.

Not saying it isn't fun to watch and you shouldn't go, just that the standard is very low.

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over 12 years ago

Course it's flawed! But the problems started in the 10th grade, so you eventually end up with a footballing desert we have in seniors.

If you think it isn't dire then you need to watch more football from overseas.

Not saying it isn't fun to watch and you shouldn't go, just that the standard is very low.

You clearly did not watch some of the better footballing teams, in particular Nelson and Selwyn. The footballing desert you refer to will be in those clubs that do not understand how to coach coaches and/or players. Hear Parklands have a job on their hands with one of their parents abusing his own players and coaches in Nelson - nice work; wish those sort of dickheads would stay home. Such a shame that a few can spoil it for so many.

APFA off to Wellington. 

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
10cc wrote:

APFA off to Wellington. 


Confirmed or speculation?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
... those clubs that do not understand how to coach coaches and/or players. Hear Parklands have a job on their hands with one of their parents abusing his own players and coaches in Nelson - nice work; wish those sort of dickheads would stay home. Such a shame that a few can spoil it for so many.

APFA off to Wellington. 

Parklands 10th in Nelson?  Spoke to some (2) of their parents after watching the side line antics.  Many were unhappy with the club in general and leaving.  Apparently the actions of a few in that team have been going on all year and the club does nothing, preferring to make sure that the money comes in at the clubrooms.  Both said that there was simply nothing available on that side of Christchurch.  Heard APFA was going - thought it was to Oz?
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over 12 years ago


I know a great club on that side of town, however not keen on that type of dramarama joining us.

I let my guitar speak for me

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VimFuego wrote:
I know a great club on that side of town, however not keen on that type of dramarama joining us.

Got the impression it was the parents not involved that were unhappy.  No drama from them, they just want better for their kids.  Apparently all the clubs with better coaches and player numbers are now on the 'other' side of Christchurch - not EQ damaged.
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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:

APFA off to Wellington. 


Confirmed or speculation?

I'd put the house on it - unless Mr & Mrs Prada want all the blankets and Gareth gets cold feet. 

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over 12 years ago

Plenty of interest in Coastal from Parklands. 

Coastal will continue to grow, and Chch will be left with 4-5 clubs and needing Selwyn and Waimak to field top level Div 1 sides in each junior grade.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 12 years ago

Course it's flawed! But the problems started in the 10th grade, so you eventually end up with a footballing desert we have in seniors.

If you think it isn't dire then you need to watch more football from overseas.

Not saying it isn't fun to watch and you shouldn't go, just that the standard is very low.

He's right guys. This league is proper dire. If you don't believe me watch the EPL, in comparison you will see just how dire our leagues are.
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over 12 years ago
AJ13 wrote:

Course it's flawed! But the problems started in the 10th grade, so you eventually end up with a footballing desert we have in seniors.

If you think it isn't dire then you need to watch more football from overseas.

Not saying it isn't fun to watch and you shouldn't go, just that the standard is very low.

He's right guys. This league is proper dire. If you don't believe me watch the EPL, in comparison you will see just how dire our leagues are.

Bollocks, get out from in front of the tele and the EPL and get stuck in with your local club. The EPL is only half decent because of the number of foreigners playing in it. For a country of 60 million that's pretty pathetic don't you think? On a relative scale in a country of 4 million people where the predominant code is thugby we do ok. And it's getting better. The EPL runs on foreign money as well, we get by on the sweat of volunteers. Pull your head in. Or better still keep it stuck up your arse where you won't see me coming when I kick you :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

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Bollocks, get out from in front of the tele and the EPL and get stuck in with your local club. The EPL is only half decent because of the number of foreigners playing in it. For a country of 60 million that's pretty pathetic don't you think? On a relative scale in a country of 4 million people where the predominant code is thugby we do ok. And it's getting better. The EPL runs on foreign money as well, we get by on the sweat of volunteers. Pull your head in. Or better still keep it stuck up your arse where you won't see me coming when I kick you :)

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Pretty much! Good on ya mate - if I knew who you were I'd send you a dozen. Better still, have one with you!
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over 12 years ago

I could be wrong here Ron but i suspect you might owe AJ13 an apology. Read to me like he was being purposely obtuse and just a tad sarcastic about My Beckham's post. Dont think actually he believes that rubbish.


Course, i could be wrong....

"You cannot say that you are happy when you don't win"

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over 12 years ago

I could be wrong here Ron but i suspect you might owe AJ13 an apology. Read to me like he was being purposely obtuse and just a tad sarcastic about My Beckham's post. Dont think actually he believes that rubbish.


Course, i could be wrong....

Knowing Ron's humour pretty sure it was directed at Beckham.

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago

I could be wrong here Ron but i suspect you might owe AJ13 an apology. Read to me like he was being purposely obtuse and just a tad sarcastic about My Beckham's post. Dont think actually he believes that rubbish.


Course, i could be wrong....

Haha .... me too ......... :}

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Obviously sarcasm is lost on some of you

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over 12 years ago
AJ13 wrote:

Obviously sarcasm is lost on some of you

Agreed, as is intellect, sigh :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Chch United advertising for first team coach who doubles as Director of Football. Does that mean he can sack himself?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago


I prefer player coaches so he can pull himself off. :-)

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago

Sometimes that's preferable to being pulled off by someone else ..........

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:


I know a great club on that side of town, however not keen on that type of dramarama joining us.



Circus ringleader off to Waimak I was told. And yeah it sounds like it's been a season long performance.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 12 years ago

Will fit in well in the structure they have from juniors to seniors.

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over 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:
VimFuego wrote:


I know a great club on that side of town, however not keen on that type of dramarama joining us.



Circus ringleader off to Waimak I was told. And yeah it sounds like it's been a season long performance.
FMD with the trouble they had this year this can only mean one thing .......... the first ever Rangiora based 3 ring circus woot!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait for the encore.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
gings wrote:

awesome stats!!!! which keeper has the most clean sheets?

Gings asked this after we were working out the top 12 scorers in the league.

I have now cunched the numbers and have compiled a list of clean sheets per club. Have worked out is overall % for every club that has played in the MPL.

 

Team Clean Sheets Games Played Clean Sheets %
Nelson Suburbs 84 234 35.9%
Western 73 234 31.2%
Cashmere Technical 12 41 29.3%
Nomads 62 213 29.1%
Ferrymead Bays 68 234 29.1%
Woolston Technical 28 98 28.6%
Halswell 58 234 24.8%
Christchurch Technical 18 76 23.7%
Coastal Spirit 14 63 22.2%
Cashmere Wanderers 4 18 22.2%
Rangers 23 115 20.0%
Burnside 11 56 19.6%
New Brighton 17 94 18.1%
Christchurch United 30 171 17.5%
Avon 15 94 16.0%
FC Twenty11 3 42 7.1%
Richmond City 2 42 4.8%
University 1 22 4.5%
Woolston WMC 0 22 0.0%

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over 12 years ago
AllWhites82 wrote:
gings wrote:

awesome stats!!!! which keeper has the most clean sheets?

Gings asked this after we were working out the top 12 scorers in the league.

I have now cunched the numbers and have compiled a list of clean sheets per club. Have worked out is overall % for every club that has played in the MPL.

 

Team Clean Sheets Games Played Clean Sheets %
Nelson Suburbs 84 234 35.9%
Western 73 234 31.2%
Cashmere Technical 12 41 29.3%
Nomads 62 213 29.1%
Ferrymead Bays 68 234 29.1%
Woolston Technical 28 98 28.6%
Halswell 58 234 24.8%
Christchurch Technical 18 76 23.7%
Coastal Spirit 14 63 22.2%
Cashmere Wanderers 4 18 22.2%
Rangers 23 115 20.0%
Burnside 11 56 19.6%
New Brighton 17 94 18.1%
Christchurch United 30 171 17.5%
Avon 15 94 16.0%
FC Twenty11 3 42 7.1%
Richmond City 2 42 4.8%
University 1 22 4.5%
Woolston WMC 0 22 0.0%



Very impressive! love your work


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over 12 years ago

Good to hear Tommy Lancaster was one of the stars overnight in the game celebrating the 150th Anniv. of the English FA, Tommy's side Polytechnic FC won 2 - 1 over Civil Service.  

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over 12 years ago
AllWhites82 wrote:

Good to hear Tommy Lancaster was one of the stars overnight in the game celebrating the 150th Anniv. of the English FA, Tommy's side Polytechnic FC won 2 - 1 over Civil Service.  


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over 12 years ago

Who's the guy in the suit? Looks outta place :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Wow! This hasn't been picked-up on in NZ but the new US Women's Team coach is a former Christchurch United player, Tom Sermanni !

Sermanni played for Christchurch United in the NZ National League in 1986 after emigrating from Scotland.

His appointment to the US Women's job has lead to Christchurch United being mentioned in news reports all over the world, especially in the US and Scotland.

Sermanni's playing career: http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Players/S/SC.html

1973 - 78 - Albion Rovers (Scotland) 
1977- 78 -  Blackpool (England) 
1978/9 - Dundee United (Scotland) 
1979 - 82 - Torquay United (England)
1982/3 - Dunfermline (Scotland) .
1984 - 85 - Canberra City (NSL)
1986 - Christchurch United (New Zealand)

"Sermanni was born in Glasgow and played as a midfielder in Scotland, England, Australia and New Zealand. His career saw him start out at Cumbernauld United before moving on to Albion Rovers, Blackpool, Torquay United, Dumferline Athletic, Canberra City and Christchurch United."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/sport/1757971/United-legends-to-gather-for-reunion

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tom-sermanni-reveals-glasgow-upbringing-1415349

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/coaching-education/2013/06/sermannis-coaching-career.aspx

Sermanni's US women's team play the Football Ferns Oct. 27 at Candlestick Park in San Francisco and Oct. 30 at Columbus Crew Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.


Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago
AllWhites82 wrote:

Good to hear Tommy Lancaster was one of the stars overnight in the game celebrating the 150th Anniv. of the English FA, Tommy's side Polytechnic FC won 2 - 1 over Civil Service.  

Fitting that a Kiwi was involved in this game as there was a Kiwi playing in the very first game of football under the new Association rules in 1864, the year following the foundation of the English FA which this fixture at the Palace commemorates.
Article on yesterday's match and interview with Tommy Lancaster - "the latest of 17 former New Zealand national league players to turn out for "Poly, as we're known" :

"Civil Service FC, were one of the founders of the FA back in 1863, so they were offered a home game at the palace by Prince William.

"We, Polytechnic FC, are in their league so, luckily, our league fixture corresponded, and we got to be involved.

"The fact [that] it will be a league game adds a bit more excitement for me, personally, as opposed to it being some kind of friendly, testimonial game.

"Only 200 [people] will be allowed to watch and they will probably be mostly FA patrons and officials, who will receive medals afterwards."

Lancaster, 25, and his team-mates "feel pretty lucky to be involved" in the game. "It's different to a cup final because we obviously haven't won anything to get there.

"My highlight, football-wise, by quite some distance, would still be playing the NZFC [New Zealand Football Championship] final. But this should certainly be something to savour, considering there may never be another game at the palace."

...Polytechnic and Civil Service play in the southern amateur league's top division..."The level of football is decent, without being anything special, [it's] similar to Mainland, I guess," said Lancaster, who played in the Mainland Premier League with Nelson Suburbs and Woolston Technical.

"Although the Cashmere Tech team that just won the Chatham Cup would destroy us."


See this on the original 1864 match and the NZ connection:

CHARLES CRAVEN DACRE: Amazingly a New Zealander actually played in that first-ever game of Association Football in 1864 (probably the only foreign-born player involved)- one Charles Craven Dacre, whose family were amongst the founders of Auckland. He was a colonial lad studying at the Royal College of Agriculture at the time- and one of England's best football players of the day. He helped draw up the rules of Association Football and later became Secretary of the English FA.

So, Kiwis have been involved in Association Football right from the word go.

This makes Dacre of course, our first-ever overseas player- and actually the first-ever overseas player in the world from any country- and you simply can't be more of a "first-ever" player all-around... 

It's interesting how violent early Association Football was. Dacre himself was hospitalised and almost died...

But fortunately he survived to bring Association Football home to these shores (especially to North Shore, the eminant club he helped found).

Incredibly, Dacre also played in the first-ever game of provincial rugby between Auckland and Canterbury, on returning home.

Article on Dacre and Origins of Football: (scroll down to relevant passage):

http://users.skynet.be/pluto/Texthistory/evolution1.html

Also in online "Cyclopedia of New Zealand" from 1902:

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc02Cycl-t1-body1-d1-d15-d3.html


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Interesting that the first New Zealander to play in the Football League was born in Christchurch (see post #3):

http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/categories/kiwi-players-overseas/topics/30529

"The first player from New Zealand to appear in the Football League was  George "Barney" Moorhead. who played in the 1920s... he had left this country as a two-year-old."

Moorhead was born in 1895 in Christchurch and played in England for Southampton and then Brighton & Hove Albion and for Northern Ireland.

(The Football League had not yet been formed when  Charles Dacre played in England.)

A colourful character: see this biographical site:

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:

Wow! This hasn't been picked-up on in NZ but the new US Women's Team coach is a former Christchurch United player, Tom Sermanni !

Sermanni played for Christchurch United in the NZ National League in 1986 after emigrating from Scotland.

His appointment to the US Women's job has lead to Christchurch United being mentioned in news reports all over the world, especially in the US and Scotland.

Sermanni's playing career: http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Players/S/SC.html

1973 - 78 - Albion Rovers (Scotland) 
1977- 78 -  Blackpool (England) 
1978/9 - Dundee United (Scotland) 
1979 - 82 - Torquay United (England)
1982/3 - Dunfermline (Scotland) .
1984 - 85 - Canberra City (NSL)
1986 - Christchurch United (New Zealand)

"Sermanni was born in Glasgow and played as a midfielder in Scotland, England, Australia and New Zealand. His career saw him start out at Cumbernauld United before moving on to Albion Rovers, Blackpool, Torquay United, Dumferline Athletic, Canberra City and Christchurch United."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/sport/1757971/United-legends-to-gather-for-reunion

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tom-sermanni-reveals-glasgow-upbringing-1415349

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/coaching-education/2013/06/sermannis-coaching-career.aspx

Sermanni's US women's team play the Football Ferns Oct. 27 at Candlestick Park in San Francisco and Oct. 30 at Columbus Crew Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.


 

I sure Tommy  was the Aussie Women's coach at one stage, if not the senior side then one of the aged grouped sides. 

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over 12 years ago

My guess highfield, Stroud or barraclough with most clean sheets

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