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over 12 years ago

Prickly you are 100% right about cashmere but might point is they need to be introducing some new blood into the seniors environment.

Great work Pride girls.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

New blood?  Don't understand. New blood to do what? If only others had such willing old blood. Too many of the oldies are driven away from other clubs or go into hiding.


 

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over 12 years ago
Prickly Thistle wrote:

New blood?  Don't understand. New blood to do what? If only others had such willing old blood. Too many of the oldies are driven away from other clubs or go into hiding.


 

Too true and for new blood to become an oldies normally required a bit of loyalty to the one club.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Prickly Thistle wrote:

New blood?  Don't understand. New blood to do what? If only others had such willing old blood. Too many of the oldies are driven away from other clubs or go into hiding.


 

Or end up playing masters footy and complaining about the cost of subs and/or what does the club do for them. Having said that I'm well aware too many old dogs can scare off the young pups, it's a difficult balance that really hinges on the right skill set matched to the job regardless of age.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Great result for the Pride today, firming up as favourites to take the title.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Great result for the Pride today, firming up as favourites to take the title.


Yes a great win. A huge top of the table clash as ASB Football Park on Sunday against the table toppers, Northern on Sunday so that is the place to be. Top team after round robin straight in to the final, with 2nd and 3rd then playing-off for the other final spot.

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over 12 years ago


Just putting it out there..........Colin Curry for the Div 1 Waimak job

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over 12 years ago

That would be one interesting combination.

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over 12 years ago

Lets face it. Combining anything with Waimak is an interesting combination.

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over 12 years ago

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago
reddevil11 wrote:


Just putting it out there..........Colin Curry for the Div 1 Waimak job

Are you his mr 15%? Good luck with the interview.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Tsetso Ivanov. Apparently no longer in the employ of effceetwentee. Apart from assisting mainland pride in some capacity, is he busy on a new project that involves mainlands new sugar daddy? Anyone with the good oil?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Waimak are one of the sleeping giants and with the right leadership have a real future. Mr Curry is a strong leader who wont put up with any nonsense. No place for player power where he works as CS found out.


 

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over 12 years ago

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !

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over 12 years ago
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 
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over 12 years ago
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
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over 12 years ago
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 
Halswell are definitely interested, played one MPL game there this season. Think they see Rolleston/Selwyn as a real threat to their catchment. Another sleeping giant.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
Tsetso still works 25 hours a week for FC. An MPL or Div 1 coach would hardly commend the same sort of money and he is probably more leaning toward full time employment. The Waimak job looks like a can of worms given some of the issues they had during the season. Rumoured he is working on an "academy" based out west to supplement his income but now that Tim Bush has moved to Capital will he apply for that position? Next year is looking very interesting, I hear Bays are amassing a double or nothing war chest to finance a title bid far beyond what they spent in any of the last 3 years. Are they assuming DH can't coach or fear losing players with his appointment. All very interesting. SE who's the coach mentioned in relation to Coastal?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
Tsetso still works 25 hours a week for FC. An MPL or Div 1 coach would hardly commend the same sort of money and he is probably more leaning toward full time employment. The Waimak job looks like a can of worms given some of the issues they had during the season. Rumoured he is working on an "academy" based out west to supplement his income but now that Tim Bush has moved to Capital will he apply for that position? Next year is looking very interesting, I hear Bays are amassing a double or nothing war chest to finance a title bid far beyond what they spent in any of the last 3 years. Are they assuming DH can't coach or fear losing players with his appointment. All very interesting. SE who's the coach mentioned in relation to Coastal?

You are assuming that with TB gone there is a position to fill at MF. Gather he has done f.a. for the clubs he was supposed to look after (and that included FC2011). Halswell has Gunkel, FC has Tetso (now on reduced hours), and Selwyn snapped up Martin Allen (ex APFA), so why would they want/need another FDO other than Emily Toase who seems very willing to work in with all 3? Think MF will be happy to offload those costs to progressive clubs that are obviously well capable of charting their own future. The smaller clubs out west are irrelevant and will disappear totally if they don't merge with others.  Agree though that you'd have to think twice before signing on the dotted line for a senior coaching role at Waimak. 
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over 12 years ago

Yes tell us SE.  I always learn the goss from this forum, how disappointing when it's my club. 

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
Tsetso still works 25 hours a week for FC. An MPL or Div 1 coach would hardly commend the same sort of money and he is probably more leaning toward full time employment. The Waimak job looks like a can of worms given some of the issues they had during the season. Rumoured he is working on an "academy" based out west to supplement his income but now that Tim Bush has moved to Capital will he apply for that position? Next year is looking very interesting, I hear Bays are amassing a double or nothing war chest to finance a title bid far beyond what they spent in any of the last 3 years. Are they assuming DH can't coach or fear losing players with his appointment. All very interesting. SE who's the coach mentioned in relation to Coastal?

You are assuming that with TB gone there is a position to fill at MF. Gather he has done f.a. for the clubs he was supposed to look after (and that included FC2011). Halswell has Gunkel, FC has Tetso (now on reduced hours), and Selwyn snapped up Martin Allen (ex APFA), so why would they want/need another FDO other than Emily Toase who seems very willing to work in with all 3? Think MF will be happy to offload those costs to progressive clubs that are obviously well capable of charting their own future. The smaller clubs out west are irrelevant and will disappear totally if they don't merge with others.  Agree though that you'd have to think twice before signing on the dotted line for a senior coaching role at Waimak. 
FDO roles are funded by NZF via Sparc, all linked to the Whole of Football master plan which is why those roles were activated originally so doesn't make any difference to Mainland's budget. I hear what you're saying about the FDO's though, seems to have been an issue previously. I thought Tony Gumley also had a role with FC, no longer?

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over 12 years ago

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

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over 12 years ago
Stretford End wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?
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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
Tsetso still works 25 hours a week for FC. An MPL or Div 1 coach would hardly commend the same sort of money and he is probably more leaning toward full time employment. The Waimak job looks like a can of worms given some of the issues they had during the season. Rumoured he is working on an "academy" based out west to supplement his income but now that Tim Bush has moved to Capital will he apply for that position? Next year is looking very interesting, I hear Bays are amassing a double or nothing war chest to finance a title bid far beyond what they spent in any of the last 3 years. Are they assuming DH can't coach or fear losing players with his appointment. All very interesting. SE who's the coach mentioned in relation to Coastal?

You are assuming that with TB gone there is a position to fill at MF. Gather he has done f.a. for the clubs he was supposed to look after (and that included FC2011). Halswell has Gunkel, FC has Tetso (now on reduced hours), and Selwyn snapped up Martin Allen (ex APFA), so why would they want/need another FDO other than Emily Toase who seems very willing to work in with all 3? Think MF will be happy to offload those costs to progressive clubs that are obviously well capable of charting their own future. The smaller clubs out west are irrelevant and will disappear totally if they don't merge with others.  Agree though that you'd have to think twice before signing on the dotted line for a senior coaching role at Waimak. 
FDO roles are funded by NZF via Sparc, all linked to the Whole of Football master plan which is why those roles were activated originally so doesn't make any difference to Mainland's budget. I hear what you're saying about the FDO's though, seems to have been an issue previously. I thought Tony Gumley also had a role with FC, no longer?
If Sparc funding  is reduced then it most certainly will make a difference to MF's budget. 
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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


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over 12 years ago
Prickly Thistle wrote:
Stretford End wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?
A Bulgarian with a french accent? I'm confused?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 


Probably - So where is Tetso going. What MPL / Div1 clubs that haven't found a coach yet could be interested? Waimak/Tetso; that would be an interesting combination!
Tsetso still works 25 hours a week for FC. An MPL or Div 1 coach would hardly commend the same sort of money and he is probably more leaning toward full time employment. The Waimak job looks like a can of worms given some of the issues they had during the season. Rumoured he is working on an "academy" based out west to supplement his income but now that Tim Bush has moved to Capital will he apply for that position? Next year is looking very interesting, I hear Bays are amassing a double or nothing war chest to finance a title bid far beyond what they spent in any of the last 3 years. Are they assuming DH can't coach or fear losing players with his appointment. All very interesting. SE who's the coach mentioned in relation to Coastal?

You are assuming that with TB gone there is a position to fill at MF. Gather he has done f.a. for the clubs he was supposed to look after (and that included FC2011). Halswell has Gunkel, FC has Tetso (now on reduced hours), and Selwyn snapped up Martin Allen (ex APFA), so why would they want/need another FDO other than Emily Toase who seems very willing to work in with all 3? Think MF will be happy to offload those costs to progressive clubs that are obviously well capable of charting their own future. The smaller clubs out west are irrelevant and will disappear totally if they don't merge with others.  Agree though that you'd have to think twice before signing on the dotted line for a senior coaching role at Waimak. 
FDO roles are funded by NZF via Sparc, all linked to the Whole of Football master plan which is why those roles were activated originally so doesn't make any difference to Mainland's budget. I hear what you're saying about the FDO's though, seems to have been an issue previously. I thought Tony Gumley also had a role with FC, no longer?

If Sparc funding  is reduced then it most certainly will make a difference to MF's budget. 

The Sparc funding has nothing to do with Mainland Football (they merely arrange to staff the role), therefore it's a cost neutral equation, nothing to do with Mainland's budget. The Sparc funding is negotiated by NZF and locked in so the role will still exist.

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:
10cc wrote:
Prickly Thistle wrote:

Mainland has a sugar daddy?   What will he be paying for?  $1m to replace turf in the future -  $3m for a new one - $800,000 to cover annual wages. Could save the clubs some money !


New facility west side of the City has been rumoured for a long time now. With APFA loading up the wagon there is a vacant one up for grabs in Lincoln. Who will have that? Who can afford it? No lights so only good during daylight hours? Maybe Tetso and co. may be more succesful out there working with Lincoln High then APFA was. He would certainly have a better relationship with Mainland than APFA.   
For Mainland to support it, would it not have to run the FTC programme? 

Halswell are definitely interested, played one MPL game there this season. Think they see Rolleston/Selwyn as a real threat to their catchment. Another sleeping giant.


Cant see why Selwyn would be interested in a failed complex like APFA's deserted one once they scamper out of town with there tails between their legs, when they have Fosters park comming on line with 22 new football fileds and an astro turf ! 
Back to a golf driving range I say for APFA :) he he
 


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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?
Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

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over 12 years ago
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

Anyone that has seen their div1 team play at the end of the season would not believe it was the same players the club had at its disposal for the first half, and never looked like winning.  Sustainability can only ever follow organisation, not the other way round. Looks like they are doing just that and getting plenty of interest from both juniors and seniors. Not that with the influx of residents player numbers are of any concern, only the means of providing for them.
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over 12 years ago
10cc wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

Anyone that has seen their div1 team play at the end of the season would not believe it was the same players the club had at its disposal for the first half, and never looked like winning.  Sustainability can only ever follow organisation, not the other way round. Looks like they are doing just that and getting plenty of interest from both juniors and seniors. Not that with the influx of residents player numbers are of any concern, only the means of providing for them.


totally agree 10cc
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over 12 years ago
grizly wrote:
10cc wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

Anyone that has seen their div1 team play at the end of the season would not believe it was the same players the club had at its disposal for the first half, and never looked like winning.  Sustainability can only ever follow organisation, not the other way round. Looks like they are doing just that and getting plenty of interest from both juniors and seniors. Not that with the influx of residents player numbers are of any concern, only the means of providing for them.


totally agree 10cc

Just refreshing to see a fairly new entity getting well organised, with their own programmes. All power to them 
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over 12 years ago
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

My point is I've seen it all before where clubs get organised, setup and all good to go yet time and time again they can't sustain the early initiatives for various reasons. I'm an advocate of planning over random haphazard approaches that stand and fall on the people who invariably come and go from the game. Selwyn, as are several other clubs, are doing great work and I'd like to see that continue for the good of the game. For me the parallel is Waimak who have a considerable time advantage but appear to have under achieved imo for those reasons. 
Pretty much in a large organisation nothing is sustainable unless you plan and review, plan and review ....... I think this point is best illustrated by the numerous mergers over the past 10 years. Those clubs weren't clubs that planned to fail, they simply failed to plan. And some of those merged clubs appear to be repeating the same behaviour that lead to their mergers in the first place without having learned the lesson. Only my opinion of course and interested to hear other points of view as always, positive or otherwise :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

My point is I've seen it all before where clubs get organised, setup and all good to go yet time and time again they can't sustain the early initiatives for various reasons. I'm an advocate of planning over random haphazard approaches that stand and fall on the people who invariably come and go from the game. Selwyn, as are several other clubs, are doing great work and I'd like to see that continue for the good of the game. For me the parallel is Waimak who have a considerable time advantage but appear to have under achieved imo for those reasons. 

Pretty much in a large organisation nothing is sustainable unless you plan and review, plan and review ....... I think this point is best illustrated by the numerous mergers over the past 10 years. Those clubs weren't clubs that planned to fail, they simply failed to plan. And some of those merged clubs appear to be repeating the same behaviour that lead to their mergers in the first place without having learned the lesson. Only my opinion of course and interested to hear other points of view as always, positive or otherwise :)

Fair point. Although not sure why you think Waimak has under achieved. In what sense? True they would have one of the least desirable cultures around, but are very united and driven. They are well organised with plenty of sponsors etc. However set in their own ways, most often in direct opposition to Mainland's directive, which does make things pretty hostile. Constant issues with players, coaches and supporters has given them a pretty bad name, so if that's what you mean by under achieving I agree. 
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over 12 years ago

My point about them under achieving is in relation to them stuck in Div 1 where they routinely cycle top 4 to bottom 4. For a club to be stuck in that cycle tells me there is something missing, as you say they are well organised, loads of good volunteers, sponsors etc. To me it can only mean they don't have a cunning plan, or if they do it's not clearly communicated across the club. They are in the "chest beating" stage, common to a few Div 1 clubs, the most notable recent example would have been Coastal a few years ago. Once they got beyond that things seemed to progress for them. ChCh Utd until recently were in the same category. Now they have pulled their heads in, settled on a plan and are preparing to rise again.

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:

My point about them under achieving is in relation to them stuck in Div 1 where they routinely cycle top 4 to bottom 4. For a club to be stuck in that cycle tells me there is something missing, as you say they are well organised, loads of good volunteers, sponsors etc. To me it can only mean they don't have a cunning plan, or if they do it's not clearly communicated across the club. They are in the "chest beating" stage, common to a few Div 1 clubs, the most notable recent example would have been Coastal a few years ago. Once they got beyond that things seemed to progress for them. ChCh Utd until recently were in the same category. Now they have pulled their heads in, settled on a plan and are preparing to rise again.

Ok. Understand what you are saying. Selwyn would be a good 7 years behind Waimak in maturity? Hopefully they learn from our/others mistakes and avoid them as much as possible themselves. 
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over 12 years ago

Wait, stop.  First of all a comparison between Coastal and Waimak and now the words maturity and Waimak being used in the same sentence.

You've changed.

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over 12 years ago

Never assume things always remain as they are Vim! 

Actually Selwyn are showing greater maturity at a earlier stage than Waimak, so should evolve into a serious club sooner than them (obviously well on the way already and could shortly threaten the status of some existing MPL clubs - Bays would be my pick as the likeliest candidate here). Good point about maturity actually 10cc, goes hand in hand with planning - ever lived in a house full of teenage boys? If you have you'll get my point. Never ending chaos directly attributable to frontal lobe development that means they can't plan regardless of the need to. There are parallels with the growth and development of clubs.

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