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Ronaldoknow wrote:

Never assume things always remain as they are Vim! 

Actually Selwyn are showing greater maturity at a earlier stage than Waimak, so should evolve into a serious club sooner than them (obviously well on the way already and could shortly threaten the status of some existing MPL clubs - Bays would be my pick as the likeliest candidate here). Good point about maturity actually 10cc, goes hand in hand with planning - ever lived in a house full of teenage boys? If you have you'll get my point. Never ending chaos directly attributable to frontal lobe development that means they can't plan regardless of the need to. There are parallels with the growth and development of clubs.


Selwyns websites tells it all www.sufc.co.nz , a very well organised club by the looks of it with lots going on, looks like they have all the bases covered for a complete football experience no matter what level you are at. 

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over 12 years ago

And if they are trying to get several Mpl players with a similar mind set then the future is looking bright for Selwyn football.

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over 12 years ago

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?

 

I heard that there was going to be some french flavour at Coastal this season aswell from someone close to their MPL side, could make for an interesting season in MPL/Div 1 with some of the coaching appointments

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over 12 years ago
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Never assume things always remain as they are Vim! 

Actually Selwyn are showing greater maturity at a earlier stage than Waimak, so should evolve into a serious club sooner than them (obviously well on the way already and could shortly threaten the status of some existing MPL clubs - Bays would be my pick as the likeliest candidate here). Good point about maturity actually 10cc, goes hand in hand with planning - ever lived in a house full of teenage boys? If you have you'll get my point. Never ending chaos directly attributable to frontal lobe development that means they can't plan regardless of the need to. There are parallels with the growth and development of clubs.


Selwyns websites tells it all www.sufc.co.nz , a very well organised club by the looks of it with lots going on, looks like they have all the bases covered for a complete football experience no matter what level you are at. 

And so so good for football. Good on them and good luck to them for next season, they should go well.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

My point is I've seen it all before where clubs get organised, setup and all good to go yet time and time again they can't sustain the early initiatives for various reasons. I'm an advocate of planning over random haphazard approaches that stand and fall on the people who invariably come and go from the game. Selwyn, as are several other clubs, are doing great work and I'd like to see that continue for the good of the game. For me the parallel is Waimak who have a considerable time advantage but appear to have under achieved imo for those reasons. 

Pretty much in a large organisation nothing is sustainable unless you plan and review, plan and review ....... I think this point is best illustrated by the numerous mergers over the past 10 years. Those clubs weren't clubs that planned to fail, they simply failed to plan. And some of those merged clubs appear to be repeating the same behaviour that lead to their mergers in the first place without having learned the lesson. Only my opinion of course and interested to hear other points of view as always, positive or otherwise :)

Mergers.

Waimak (Kaiapoi / Rangiora) Certainly works at Junior level. Great numbers. Still looking for senior success. Have their own plan

Coastal seems to be working, must be 5 years plus now. Established in MPL need more of their own juniors. Have their own plan

Selwyn again great progress with juniors. Establishing Seniors. Have their own plan.

FC 2011  3 years on great junior numbers. Struggling with seniors. Obviously have a plan, apparently currently under revision.

CTFC  2 years on seem to be doing OK juniors and seniors. They also have a plan.

I don't see any failures just works in progress, all clubs looking to develop their area at all levels, they all have plans, different plans but they have plans. The clubs without junior, youth and senior plans are the ones that should be worrying. 

  

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over 12 years ago

Heard FC20 have appointed Glen Lapslie (2013 PDL coach) as Mens Div 1 coach for 2014. He has a good group of young players, many of whom have been coached by Glen at various youth and junior levels over the years.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Heard FC20 have appointed Glen Lapslie (2013 PDL coach) as Mens Div 1 coach for 2014. He has a good group of young players, many of whom have been coached by Glen at various youth and junior levels over the years.


Excellent choice if that's the case!
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over 12 years ago

Waimak (Kaiapoi / Rangiora) Certainly works at Junior level. Great numbers. Still looking for senior success. Have their own plan  



I have heard that the Kaiapoi and Rangiora factions are getting restless

"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

My point is I've seen it all before where clubs get organised, setup and all good to go yet time and time again they can't sustain the early initiatives for various reasons. I'm an advocate of planning over random haphazard approaches that stand and fall on the people who invariably come and go from the game. Selwyn, as are several other clubs, are doing great work and I'd like to see that continue for the good of the game. For me the parallel is Waimak who have a considerable time advantage but appear to have under achieved imo for those reasons. 

Pretty much in a large organisation nothing is sustainable unless you plan and review, plan and review ....... I think this point is best illustrated by the numerous mergers over the past 10 years. Those clubs weren't clubs that planned to fail, they simply failed to plan. And some of those merged clubs appear to be repeating the same behaviour that lead to their mergers in the first place without having learned the lesson. Only my opinion of course and interested to hear other points of view as always, positive or otherwise :)

Mergers.

Waimak (Kaiapoi / Rangiora) Certainly works at Junior level. Great numbers. Still looking for senior success. Have their own plan

Coastal seems to be working, must be 5 years plus now. Established in MPL need more of their own juniors. Have their own plan

Selwyn again great progress with juniors. Establishing Seniors. Have their own plan.

FC 2011  3 years on great junior numbers. Struggling with seniors. Obviously have a plan, apparently currently under revision.

CTFC  2 years on seem to be doing OK juniors and seniors. They also have a plan.

I don't see any failures just works in progress, all clubs looking to develop their area at all levels, they all have plans, different plans but they have plans. The clubs without junior, youth and senior plans are the ones that should be worrying. 

  

Agreed PT, of the unmerged local clubs I would include Halswell in there also in terms of an organised planning club, that leaves Bays, Western & Nomads - all unmerged clubs - out on a limb perhaps? Then there's Varsity who appear ambitious at the moment but will that carry on? 
My reference to merged clubs struggling was more about the behaviour than the lack of planning that lead to the original clubs dissapearing and the possibility that the newly merged club might repeat that behaviour which could threaten to undermine any plan.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Ronaldoknow wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
grizly wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
10cc wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

Do halswell have reason to feel a threat from selwyn? Does anyone know anything about the coaching set up out there? I'm going for them to be the team to beat in div 1 this season

Lee Padmore (Burnley) in charge of 1st team since previous coach ran out of ideas mid season.

According to their website Martin Allen has overall responsibility as Sport Development Officer

"Following on from the achievements at the end of last season, SUFC is pleased to announce the appointment of the following Senior roles for the 2014 season;
·         Lee Padmore                      First team (Div1) Head Coach
·         Richard Bingham               First team (Div1) Assistant Coach
·         Ian Thompson                     Reserve Team Coach
·         Nathan Bool                        First and Reserve Team Manager
·         Graham McMann                Girl’s PDL Coach.
·         Graham McMann                Head of Youth and Senior Pathways"

Also appointed a new high calibre board member to focus on girls and women. Looks like they are getting their ducks in a row!


Hey 10cc, any idea what the "achievements at the end of last season" were?

Good to see them getting all their ducks in a row at this stage of the season, sign of a progressive club. Next step is to make it sustainable.


Funny how can you make anything sustainable untill you get organised, what's ya point ! if at all positive

My point is I've seen it all before where clubs get organised, setup and all good to go yet time and time again they can't sustain the early initiatives for various reasons. I'm an advocate of planning over random haphazard approaches that stand and fall on the people who invariably come and go from the game. Selwyn, as are several other clubs, are doing great work and I'd like to see that continue for the good of the game. For me the parallel is Waimak who have a considerable time advantage but appear to have under achieved imo for those reasons. 

Pretty much in a large organisation nothing is sustainable unless you plan and review, plan and review ....... I think this point is best illustrated by the numerous mergers over the past 10 years. Those clubs weren't clubs that planned to fail, they simply failed to plan. And some of those merged clubs appear to be repeating the same behaviour that lead to their mergers in the first place without having learned the lesson. Only my opinion of course and interested to hear other points of view as always, positive or otherwise :)

Mergers.

Waimak (Kaiapoi / Rangiora) Certainly works at Junior level. Great numbers. Still looking for senior success. Have their own plan

Coastal seems to be working, must be 5 years plus now. Established in MPL need more of their own juniors. Have their own plan

Selwyn again great progress with juniors. Establishing Seniors. Have their own plan.

FC 2011  3 years on great junior numbers. Struggling with seniors. Obviously have a plan, apparently currently under revision.

CTFC  2 years on seem to be doing OK juniors and seniors. They also have a plan.

I don't see any failures just works in progress, all clubs looking to develop their area at all levels, they all have plans, different plans but they have plans. The clubs without junior, youth and senior plans are the ones that should be worrying. 

  

Agreed PT, of the unmerged local clubs I would include Halswell in there also in terms of an organised planning club, that leaves Bays, Western & Nomads - all unmerged clubs - out on a limb perhaps? Then there's Varsity who appear ambitious at the moment but will that carry on? 

My reference to merged clubs struggling was more about the behaviour than the lack of planning that lead to the original clubs dissapearing and the possibility that the newly merged club might repeat that behaviour which could threaten to undermine any plan.

Point taken.
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over 12 years ago

Nomads had the merger with another club come up about 3 or more years ago at an AGM. Mike Coggin trying to push it along at that time. Simple answer no way hossie while the administration stays much as it has for the last few years.


Good on Glen Lapslie for getting the FC job, another Nomads junior coach going on to test himself.

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over 12 years ago

Scottie Road is that the admin at Nomads you are referring to?

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over 12 years ago
BenchWarmer wrote:

Scottie Road is that the admin at Nomads you are referring to?

Or Mainland?

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over 12 years ago

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserves.

French connection at Coastal?

 


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Ronaldoknow wrote:
BenchWarmer wrote:

Scottie Road is that the admin at Nomads you are referring to?

Or Mainland?

Nomads.
Plastic pitch coming to Tulett if goss around that area is correct, no time frame yet mentioned.
Remember Dragons use Tulett for training. 
More at AGM Monday maybe.
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over 12 years ago
Scottie Rd wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
BenchWarmer wrote:

Scottie Road is that the admin at Nomads you are referring to?

Or Mainland?


Nomads.

Plastic pitch coming to Tulett if goss around that area is correct, no time frame yet mentioned.

Remember Dragons use Tulett for training. 

More at AGM Monday maybe.

So Nomads/Western/Pap Redwood off the agenda Scottie?
Dragons using Tulett is an advantage to the club? Debatable. 
What's the numbers like at the moment? Likely to have done well out of FC dropped 500 members in the last 3 years.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserve

So another lower league UK pro into coaching circles in Chch. Does he at least have any coaching badges?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Without me digging into annual reports - which Board candidates did Mainland federation support at last NZF board elections? Would it even be there? BTW are mainland board minutes made public to their constituent clubs ?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserve

So another lower league UK pro into coaching circles in Chch. Does he at least have any coaching badges?

Who are the other ones? Hell of a good striker at Barnet (seen with my own eyes) do not know about qualifications.

 

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Without me digging into annual reports - which Board candidates did Mainland federation support at last NZF board elections? Would it even be there? BTW are mainland board minutes made public to their constituent clubs ?

Good questions, could take some digging to find the answers, pretty sure clubs I have been involved with don't get minutes but could be wrong, may have changed in the last few years.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
Nomad Gonad wrote:

And if they are trying to get several Mpl players with a similar mind set then the future is looking bright for Selwyn football.

will be interesting to see who they can attract,if they can get a couple of good players then others may well follow.any names being thrown about.?

 

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over 12 years ago
fc69 wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:

And if they are trying to get several Mpl players with a similar mind set then the future is looking bright for Selwyn football.

will be interesting to see who they can attract,if they can get a couple of good players then others may well follow.any names being thrown about.?

 

1st preseason on Tuesday 19th. Going to be interesting to see planning from coaches etc. Also numbers there too. To be honest, I couldn't tell you if anyone coming in will be from another club or just new to the area? A guy called John Smith maybe well known in chch or just a John Smith.
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over 12 years ago

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserves.

French connection at Coastal?

 


That shouldn't surprise anyone.. I thought that was one of the rules of being involved with Keith and the Canterbury United set up.. You have to join Cashmere Tech in the Winter League.. Failure to do so would jeopardize your chances at Canterbury United. 
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Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserve

So another lower league UK pro into coaching circles in Chch. Does he at least have any coaching badges?

Mainland rules state MPL coaches have minimum of NZ National Licence.. Wonder how many MPL coaches have these qualifications... Out of last seasons MPL coaches, I think you will find only 2.. Mick at Bays and Gareth at CTFC had these qualifications. Both these 2 are not coaching MPL next year !!!!!!!
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over 12 years ago
chosen one wrote:

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserves.

French connection at Coastal?

 


That shouldn't surprise anyone.. I thought that was one of the rules of being involved with Keith and the Canterbury United set up.. You have to join Cashmere Tech in the Winter League.. Failure to do so would jeopardize your chances at Canterbury United. 

That would explain Tsetso's short involvement last season. !!

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chosen one wrote:

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserve

So another lower league UK pro into coaching circles in Chch. Does he at least have any coaching badges?

Mainland rules state MPL coaches have minimum of NZ National Licence.. Wonder how many MPL coaches have these qualifications... Out of last seasons MPL coaches, I think you will find only 2.. Mick at Bays and Gareth at CTFC had these qualifications. Both these 2 are not coaching MPL next year !!!!!!!


So john brown is ineligible to swap jobs with Keith if, say hypothetically, he is not reappointed to dragons job, or are there different rules for that job? As to cashmere reserves job, is it absolutely Devine or the Pitts, or someone else? 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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chosen one wrote:

Gossip. Speculation Sean Devine (assistant Canty Utd Coach) ex pro striker from UK. turned down MPL roles to take on CTFC reserve

So another lower league UK pro into coaching circles in Chch. Does he at least have any coaching badges?

Mainland rules state MPL coaches have minimum of NZ National Licence.. Wonder how many MPL coaches have these qualifications... Out of last seasons MPL coaches, I think you will find only 2.. Mick at Bays and Gareth at CTFC had these qualifications. Both these 2 are not coaching MPL next year !!!!!!!


So john brown is ineligible to swap jobs with Keith if, say hypothetically, he is not reappointed to dragons job, or are there different rules for that job? As to cashmere reserves job, is it absolutely Devine or the Pitts, or someone else? 

I don't think there are any rules on qualifications for the Canty United job apart from they are not allowed to coach in MPL as well. Just another example of Mainland having rules and then not bothering to enforce them. Personally I think a MPL coach should have qualifications and Browny would probably do a better job than the current incumbent.
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over 12 years ago
reddevil11 wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?

 

I heard that there was going to be some french flavour at Coastal this season aswell from someone close to their MPL side, could make for an interesting season in MPL/Div 1 with some of the coaching appointments

Hey you coastal spirits, you've been too quiet; what's wrong? Got a frog in your throat? 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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reddevil11 wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?

 

I heard that there was going to be some french flavour at Coastal this season aswell from someone close to their MPL side, could make for an interesting season in MPL/Div 1 with some of the coaching appointments

Hey you coastal spirits, you've been too quiet; what's wrong? Got a frog in your throat? 

Maybe they went to Xavier College.

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over 12 years ago

Oh hilarious!  All in good time my friends. 

I'm not one to spread gossip. In fact, I find it embarrassing.

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

Oh hilarious!  All in good time my friends. 

I'm not one to spread gossip. In fact, I find it embarrassing.

Ah, so that's where the ruddy complexion comes from?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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reddevil11 wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?

 

I heard that there was going to be some french flavour at Coastal this season aswell from someone close to their MPL side, could make for an interesting season in MPL/Div 1 with some of the coaching appointments

Hey you coastal spirits, you've been too quiet; what's wrong? Got a frog in your throat? 


Well there are other ways to persuade people than money, but thats just coarse and vulgar. 

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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over 12 years ago
shushy6 wrote:
reddevil11 wrote:

At the nix game a person very involved with their north side of the city club INSISTED they knew the identity of the new coastal coach; and it wasn't a name that's been mentioned here before. You coastal people aren't thinking of new MPL blood are you?

Could he have a French accent maybe?

 

I heard that there was going to be some french flavour at Coastal this season aswell from someone close to their MPL side, could make for an interesting season in MPL/Div 1 with some of the coaching appointments

Hey you coastal spirits, you've been too quiet; what's wrong? Got a frog in your throat? 


Well there are other ways to persuade people than money, but thats just coarse and vulgar. 

Gallic behaviour?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago
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Innovate1 hour ago

I thought that assault was assault, discharged without conviction? That why we have Judges to weigh up all the facts. There aren't to many of us who haven't done something they have regretted.

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JPR11 hour ago

Great role model. 
"Hey, Kiwi's, if you're in an altercation, always use force, it's what the Police do". 
No wonder every day there are articles in Stuff about assaults....

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Mrol1 hour ago

And if the ref grabbed the cop by the throat it he'd be in jail............

Not a lot of sympathy for Constable Rose.

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over 12 years ago

Comments have been removed from the Press article on the ref assault. 



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over 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

Comments have been removed from the Press article on the ref assault. 



There saved forever on here, not surprising the Press removed them, didn't add anything to the story.

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over 12 years ago

That's the point of comments, for people to have their say. Many other stories on stuff have comments available, why not this one? Or more importantly why were they allowed then disallowed?

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