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Is it written in the contract if you sign for Canty Utd you have to play for Tech?
Ha ha. Check with Mainland. They administer Canterbury Utd.
Is it right that if you sign for Coastal you automatically make the Pride squad?
Now now that's a bit random. You'd have to say the 9 of 16(?) players from Coastal in the Pride all deserve to be there, having also represented either NZ under 17/20, NZ secondary schools or full age NZ. So if your assumption is there is favouritism there I think you're a bit off the mark.
My point, just to reiterate, comes down to money. I hate the fact that teams can buy players, or that players ask for money. I like the idea of cheering on a team that does it for the love of it. And it seems to roll on from Canty Utd (also not supposed to be paid....) that those wanting money go to Tech and Bays. If players come to a club because of expert coaching, facilities, atmosphere then sweet, but to buy a team, and not pay others, or subs and fundraising goes towards this, is it all worth it?
I definitely think there is favouritism there. How many of those players started with Coastal. How many joined because of the opportunity to be involved with then Canterbury coaches. How many joined because they saw Coastal as the way into The Pride. I include one of the coaches in that. You think we are all as naïve as you Vim.
In every country in the world the top level of all sports (particularly male) involve financial reward. One of the reasons we are still a backwater is that we (football) in New Zealand do not recognise that.
Tell me what happened to the Sporting Futures progam, $600 worth of support offered to any young player across the city targeted by Coastal. Was not this how your squads were built? How do you justify that. I do not have to I thought it very professional. I did not like the fact that once again your own club players were ignored. Maybe why Parklands now have a bigger player base than Coastal.
I really think you should look at why you are involved with such double standards you should be in politics.
Ouch.
I think there is a difference to coming to a club for better coaching, prospects and culture than coming for the almighty dollar. I have no problem with Tech as such, so don't take it too personally, however openly breaking rules regarding player payments, and then constantly sidestepping this fact is not only dishonest but cheating.
In response to the accusation of favouritism in the Women's game I think the facts will speak for themselves. From memory of the many in the Pride squad, 2 players started at the Mighty New Brighton, and 2 others have only ever played for Coastal. 2 joined the club after the strange 'School of Football' and before they made the Pride squad. All of these became Pride players under previous coaches (not the Coastal ones) so the assumption of favouritism seems invalid. Only one player has come over (and why wouldn't you!) since making the Pride. I can't think of the other 2 but I'm sure there is nothing dodgy about it.
Sporting Futures dates back many years, and was a carryover from Linfield who were doing things around the 'total athlete' such as nutrition and fitness etc. I don't think it was specifically football either. That wasn't how our squads were built. They have been built through countless ours of extra training by coaches, mainly to the elite however now we also do a participation group as well. Quite a few coming through from our 17s and PDL now too so it seems to be working. Not including our endless flow of Western players....
Do Parklands really have a bigger junior base than Coastal? I don't know the facts. We have had an increase of 150 junior players since our first year, and this year had 58 Canty reps. Next year, all going according to plan we will also have girls teams in 12s, 14s, 16s and two in 18s. (And the Parklands coach did actively do the poaching scandal that has been talked about on here...)
And that strange guilty plea about Western brings me back to my point eventually. If players move club for better coaching, atmosphere, facilities then that is great. If they move for money, what is that showing the others coming through the ranks and the general public. Are juniors/masters/others ok with seeing their sub money, or sponsorship money going into a players bank account or in a brown paper bag? I sure wouldn't be. And if that's the way some clubs want to do it, then put it out there, own up to Mainland, and declare it in your annual financials. I, as the worlds greatest player, fan and male model have a greater sense of (Mainland) Pride knowing that my team do it for the love of it, rather than looking for the highest dollar.
Wow, that was epic.
And for the record, I would make a bloody good politician.
Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
I let my guitar speak for me
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Go the veiled homosexual references! Yet we are the "young people" making fools of ourselves? I have actually started giggling like a silly school girl while reading this. Quality.
And nobody in the red zone has neighbours...
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Go the veiled homosexual references! Yet we are the "young people" making fools of ourselves? I have actually started giggling like a silly school girl while reading this. Quality.
And nobody in the red zone has neighbours...
Giggling like a silly school girl. Says it all really
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Go the veiled homosexual references! Yet we are the "young people" making fools of ourselves? I have actually started giggling like a silly school girl while reading this. Quality.
And nobody in the red zone has neighbours...
Giggling like a silly school girl. Says it all really
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Go the veiled homosexual references! Yet we are the "young people" making fools of ourselves? I have actually started giggling like a silly school girl while reading this. Quality.
And nobody in the red zone has neighbours...
Giggling like a silly school girl. Says it all really
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Para 1: Well is paying players under the table cheating? Riddle me that.
Para 2: You accused us of favouritism, when heaps of them were already in the team.
Para 3: Sporting Futures is years old, and was around 12 players, so didn't mean we were filling out our teams.
Para 4: Foul means was one coach and team, same thing you are complaining about before. And I have no idea on numbers.
Para 5: All is ok if clubs don't pay players. And if they do, be honest about it. You didn't answer any of my points in there.
I'm not abusing anyone, just stating my opinion as I see it. And giving you some background to your comments which are obviously way off the mark.
If you honestly believe that there are clubs breaching the rules do something about it.
Don't just make snide remarks.
You obviously no nothing about the way the CTFC is run.
Name the players that have joined for the (supposed) money.
Players joined CS to get into The Pride. Players join CTFC to win championships and some to get in to CU
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Para 1 Nothing against Tech you are just cheats! Just like Bays.
Para 2 None of the CS players joined for the opportunities to make the pride!
Para 3 Sporting Futures was not used to attract other clubs players!
Para 4 Parklands also wrong in their methods! Got bigger than us by foul means.
Para 5 All OK as long as players coming to us. Western are crap also.
You are not going to get many votes with that load of delusional crap Vim.
Do you have any neighbours you dont abuse.
I can only imagine what it is you are playing with to have become the world's greatest.
I do not know about your team but I can believe you do it for the love of it. Maybe a little often.
Had a couple of glimpses of your mens teams culture this year. Not a lot to shout about.
Go the veiled homosexual references! Yet we are the "young people" making fools of ourselves? I have actually started giggling like a silly school girl while reading this. Quality.
And nobody in the red zone has neighbours...
Giggling like a silly school girl. Says it all really
Massive comeback from Thickly Bristled there folks. Stay tuned, and make sure the TV is turned right down so you don't miss one syllable of this genius and his witty repartee.
I am priviledged to be able to take comedy notes from a man of your stature. Thank christ you are gainfully employed is all I can say.
Keep giggling and sucking on whatever it is you enjoy Slushy
I'm not making snide remarks, I am merely stating facts from my club to back up your claims, and making accusations that clubs are paying players. And that is the crux of my argument many times!
I have proved my point about the players in the Pride, you have yet to prove yours about CTFC (and Bays) paying players.
Players join my club for football development, they join yours for $. Proof would be in the pudding would be to see how well teams would go if they stuck to the rules and not made payments, who would win the league then?
Ok, I'm done.
I let my guitar speak for me
Not sure why all the critical comments towards tech/Canterbury.Tech are a well run club with good loyal people steering the club surely what they do there is good for Canterbury also. It is about time Kamo came back for a pay rise too.
I'm not making snide remarks, I am merely stating facts from my club to back up your claims, and making accusations that clubs are paying players. And that is the crux of my argument many times!
I have proved my point about the players in the Pride, you have yet to prove yours about CTFC (and Bays) paying players.
Players join my club for football development, they join yours for $. Proof would be in the pudding would be to see how well teams would go if they stuck to the rules and not made payments, who would win the league then?
Ok, I'm done.
Once again accusations and no proof. They are not facts until you prove them.
I'm not making snide remarks, I am merely stating facts from my club to back up your claims, and making accusations that clubs are paying players. And that is the crux of my argument many times!
I have proved my point about the players in the Pride, you have yet to prove yours about CTFC (and Bays) paying players.
Players join my club for football development, they join yours for $. Proof would be in the pudding would be to see how well teams would go if they stuck to the rules and not made payments, who would win the league then?
Ok, I'm done.
Once again accusations and no proof. They are not facts until you prove them.
I think you will find they join CTFC to win championships, few if any were developed at CS
Keep giggling and sucking on whatever it is you enjoy Slushy
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
Keep giggling and sucking on whatever it is you enjoy Slushy
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
Why am I double posting all the time?? Grrr.
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
I think you will find they join CTFC to win championships, few if any were developed at CS
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Absolutely. And that is by NOT paying ANY of them. If anyone in NZ thinks we have a sufficient number players at a level that justifies payment they are deluded and should spend a bit of time at any of the 1000's of amateur clubs overseas.
Most of our 'top tier' players wouldn't even get a look in in Europe, so lets get on with getting our quality up first without making some believe they are actualy good enough to justify getting 'financially compensated'. At the level football is played in NZ this only serves to prematurely stroke the egos of the players, clubs and coaches involved at those clubs that can afford it, nothing else.
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
.... all is calm ....
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
Did you know there seems to be no goalkeeper coaching pathway at the moment? Sucks, but what do you do?
Put the unco kid who likes wearing gloves in there. Then hope s/he doesn't wander off to climb a tree while the game is going on.
True story.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Absolutely. And that is by NOT paying ANY of them. If anyone in NZ thinks we have a sufficient number players at a level that justifies payment they are deluded and should spend a bit of time at any of the 1000's of amateur clubs overseas.
Most of our 'top tier' players wouldn't even get a look in in Europe, so lets get on with getting our quality up first without making some believe they are actualy good enough to justify getting 'financially compensated'. At the level football is played in NZ this only serves to prematurely stroke the egos of the players, clubs and coaches involved at those clubs that can afford it, nothing else.
I think I agree. Yes, yes I do. And the players putting the time in to become better is pretty severely limited by the fact that we dont have the coaches to get them there. As Sir Ricki Herbert stated, "Is there anybody better?" Arrogant as it was, he sorta has a point.
You can put as much time in with me as you like as a player, I cant really improve you past a certain point because I JUST DONT HAVE THE COACHING KNOWLEDGE.YET...
I accept this fact, and am working to get more every chance I get. Did you know there seems to be no goalkeeper coaching pathway at the moment? Sucks, but what do you do?
Not surprisingly I disagree, in that I believe we struggle to keep our best players interested enough to continue development. It all seems to stop for so many when they enter the senior ranks. Premier League at 17 / 18 or younger and then nothing . Those with ambition tend to move on to overseas opportunities. A number play semi pro in Aussie or Europe. Some look for a greater challenge. Those that stay tend to drift and lose the desire to progress.
What we cant do here effectively is offer those with potential the chance to mature as a a player working at their game. Twice a week is a struggle for some. Money might change that. It has improved the standard of those other sports.
When you look at how much money we turn over currently I find it hard to not think we could use it better by partially employing players. We pay a lot in wages to administer our game, why not to play it?
OK to support them financially through their education (scholarships). Why not whilst working.?
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Absolutely. And that is by NOT paying ANY of them. If anyone in NZ thinks we have a sufficient number players at a level that justifies payment they are deluded and should spend a bit of time at any of the 1000's of amateur clubs overseas.
Most of our 'top tier' players wouldn't even get a look in in Europe, so lets get on with getting our quality up first without making some believe they are actualy good enough to justify getting 'financially compensated'. At the level football is played in NZ this only serves to prematurely stroke the egos of the players, clubs and coaches involved at those clubs that can afford it, nothing else.
I think I agree. Yes, yes I do. And the players putting the time in to become better is pretty severely limited by the fact that we dont have the coaches to get them there. As Sir Ricki Herbert stated, "Is there anybody better?" Arrogant as it was, he sorta has a point.
You can put as much time in with me as you like as a player, I cant really improve you past a certain point because I JUST DONT HAVE THE COACHING KNOWLEDGE.YET...
I accept this fact, and am working to get more every chance I get. Did you know there seems to be no goalkeeper coaching pathway at the moment? Sucks, but what do you do?
Not surprisingly I disagree, in that I believe we struggle to keep our best players interested enough to continue development. It all seems to stop for so many when they enter the senior ranks. Premier League at 17 / 18 or younger and then nothing . Those with ambition tend to move on to overseas opportunities. A number play semi pro in Aussie or Europe. Some look for a greater challenge. Those that stay tend to drift and lose the desire to progress.
What we cant do here effectively is offer those with potential the chance to mature as a a player working at their game. Twice a week is a struggle for some. Money might change that. It has improved the standard of those other sports.
When you look at how much money we turn over currently I find it hard to not think we could use it better by partially employing players. We pay a lot in wages to administer our game, why not to play it?
OK to support them financially through their education (scholarships). Why not whilst working.?
Enough of that crap.
Serious questions!
When Rugby, Cricket, Rugby League and Netball have a legitimate professional or semi professional presence in New Zealand. Can we expect to take our sport to a significantly higher level without also developing the same presence?
Can we expect our young players to carry on with the time commitment expected of them as developing young players into the adult world of responsibilities and outside commitments without financial compensation?
We have the numbers, how do we turn our playing numbers into supporting a viable top level competition?
Absolutely. And that is by NOT paying ANY of them. If anyone in NZ thinks we have a sufficient number players at a level that justifies payment they are deluded and should spend a bit of time at any of the 1000's of amateur clubs overseas.
Most of our 'top tier' players wouldn't even get a look in in Europe, so lets get on with getting our quality up first without making some believe they are actualy good enough to justify getting 'financially compensated'. At the level football is played in NZ this only serves to prematurely stroke the egos of the players, clubs and coaches involved at those clubs that can afford it, nothing else.
I think I agree. Yes, yes I do. And the players putting the time in to become better is pretty severely limited by the fact that we dont have the coaches to get them there. As Sir Ricki Herbert stated, "Is there anybody better?" Arrogant as it was, he sorta has a point.
You can put as much time in with me as you like as a player, I cant really improve you past a certain point because I JUST DONT HAVE THE COACHING KNOWLEDGE.YET...
I accept this fact, and am working to get more every chance I get. Did you know there seems to be no goalkeeper coaching pathway at the moment? Sucks, but what do you do?
Not surprisingly I disagree, in that I believe we struggle to keep our best players interested enough to continue development. It all seems to stop for so many when they enter the senior ranks. Premier League at 17 / 18 or younger and then nothing . Those with ambition tend to move on to overseas opportunities. A number play semi pro in Aussie or Europe. Some look for a greater challenge. Those that stay tend to drift and lose the desire to progress.
What we cant do here effectively is offer those with potential the chance to mature as a a player working at their game. Twice a week is a struggle for some. Money might change that. It has improved the standard of those other sports.
When you look at how much money we turn over currently I find it hard to not think we could use it better by partially employing players. We pay a lot in wages to administer our game, why not to play it?
OK to support them financially through their education (scholarships). Why not whilst working.?
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
Not surprisingly I disagree, in that I believe we struggle to keep our best players interested enough to continue development. It all seems to stop for so many when they enter the senior ranks. Premier League at 17 / 18 or younger and then nothing . Those with ambition tend to move on to overseas opportunities. A number play semi pro in Aussie or Europe. Some look for a greater challenge. Those that stay tend to drift and lose the desire to progress.
What we cant do here effectively is offer those with potential the chance to mature as a a player working at their game. Twice a week is a struggle for some. Money might change that. It has improved the standard of those other sports.
When you look at how much money we turn over currently I find it hard to not think we could use it better by partially employing players. We pay a lot in wages to administer our game, why not to play it?
OK to support them financially through their education (scholarships). Why not whilst working.?
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
Ronnie, I'd love an A league club in Chch but pokie money won't fund that, and there is also the small matter of Auckland - which would be next in line for expansion due to tv & sponsorship/population size,
Progressive aspirational Chch clubs should look to develop other offshore pathways. Get creative in that area.
Kotahitanga. We are one.
Totally agree pokie money wouldn't fund it but they're not funding the Phoenix either who play in an area with a smaller population base, just a pipe dream ....... maybe given local success with the girls we should look at the Aussie W league?
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
Find yourself a sugar daddy for A league.
W league: with coastal success in women's game some sort of feeder club status might be worth exploring, but not sure of W league import player rule.
Kotahitanga. We are one.
So, accepting that our very best will hopefully enjoy professional opportunities in leagues overseas, an increasing number, but still very few percentage wise. That group will continue to sort out our AW's and FF's.
How do we, then, keep our next tier playing domestically? Currently we probably have 200 plus young players locally paying a considerable amount of money annually because they have the dream of playing at the highest level, their dreams are focused overseas. This is not something new, it is more expensive now but it is not new.
The reality is 95% plus, will not see their dream come to fruition. There options as senior players will be to continue playing locally in a local competition of limited standards that requires of them no more than a recreational interest and commitment to sport, or some of those that retain their ambition will push on to National League level, alternatively they may continue to look to play overseas in higher level competitions taken a little more seriously than ours, partly because there is a financial return.
Our National league entries only require one senior player a year from our playing stocks, maximum. Players selected from 18 to 35 year olds. One of our problems is we can not find enough players in this age group who retain the dedication, resolve and interest to participate at this level. This results in a juvenile based female team and a team with 50% of the players from overseas in our male side.
These teams are rightly selected to get results, I do not have a problem with that and hopefully the good results will continue. I do have a problem with the lack of options our selectors have got. No where near the number of club players with the commitment or playing ability to compete for places.
I do not believe our lack of a better local or National competition is a coaching problem. We have far more coaches making a living from our sport than ever before. Certainly a lack of coaching experience, but not numbers. I believe that we do produce technically reasonably well equipped young players. I do not believe we give them the quality of competition and experiences to turn that technique into skill. I also do not believe we offer them attractive enough reasons to continue to strive to improve past their mid-teens.
I am sure one of the reasons we lose so many players overseas to second tier leagues (not fully professional) is the excitement and interest our sport holds everywhere else. We have players still playing in Australia, USA, UK, Europe & Asia through into their late twenties and even thirties. Many get financially assisted.
An exciting well resourced ,well supported local or regional competition is needed. We must do more to keep our players in the game at a local level. Time produces players, money buys their time.We need to provide for our twenty to thirty year olds.
Wow. A day away and I miss around 20 messages. I love this thread.
I think my position has been stated enough, and I spose it comes back to 'the greater good' from Hot Fuzz.
Anyways, anyone see this in the Christchurch Star. Interesting (non)development huh? This link is the best I could find sorry, it's on page 2. Christchurch Star
I let my guitar speak for me
You should check out the central league thread too, interesting discussion there going on about payments. Allegation of a 50k salary!
I think I should move there to make my millions.
I let my guitar speak for me
You should check out the central league thread too, interesting discussion there going on about payments. Allegation of a 50k salary!
I think I should move there to make my millions.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
Interesting to see that both Waimak & Hornby are advertising for a div 1 coach in December, leaving abit late don't you think, should be an interesting season next year in div 1. I think whoever wins is going to struggle in the MPL 2015.
Is it written in the contract if you sign for Canty Utd you have to play for Tech?
Ha ha. Check with Mainland. They administer Canterbury Utd.
Is it right that if you sign for Coastal you automatically make the Pride squad?
no but I think there was 9/10 Coastal players in the glorious title winning squad. Ace eh.
maybe not next summer but the one after look for Selwyn and dare I say it Waimak to get players into the Pride. both clubs have had successive good runs with girls teams from 12's upwards.
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Interesting to see that both Waimak & Hornby are advertising for a div 1 coach in December, leaving abit late don't you think, should be an interesting season next year in div 1. I think whoever wins is going to struggle in the MPL 2015.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
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