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Vim, the players who have left are Joe Green, Jordan Yong, not exactly an import but Matt Shaw, a former NZ secondary school defender, left the same month as those two as well as Jorge Donoso (i believe he's a former tech player) and in my opinion was one of the best Richmond players all season. Ben Wright (champions league goalscorer) is likely to be going to Nelson Suburbs to join Joe Green. Sam Mason-Smith is a very handy player who was an import, but if they can't afford to go in to the MPL then what do any of the players with higher aspirations look up to?
I know of three young players involved in the div one team last year who left for other clubs because they were being forced to play for a division two team.
Nelson Suburbs div 2 team is currently undefeated all season and you could argue would do better than the development team in the Nelson first divison (which is full of kids) Maybe they could look at having two Suburbs teams in that competition.
Sunday 21 August, 1pm
At Madills Farm, Auckland
Eastern Suburbs 1 (Rebecca TEGG 61�)
Glenfield Rovers 4 (Katie ROOD 21�, Katie BOWEN 32�, Hannah WILKINSON 85�, Stephanie SKILTON 90+3�)
Halftime 0-2
ASB Women�s Knockout Cup Final
Coastal Spirit v Glenfield Rovers
August 27/28 or September 3/4
Venue TBC
Vim, the players who have left are Joe Green, Jordan Yong, not exactly an import but Matt Shaw, a former NZ secondary school defender, left the same month as those two as well as Jorge Donoso (i believe he's a former tech player) and in my opinion was one of the best Richmond players all season. Ben Wright (champions league goalscorer) is likely to be going to Nelson Suburbs to join Joe Green. Sam Mason-Smith is a very handy player who was an import, but if they can't afford to go in to the MPL then what do any of the players with higher aspirations look up to?
I know of three young players involved in the div one team last year who left for other clubs because they were being forced to play for a division two team.
Nelson Suburbs div 2 team is currently undefeated all season and you could argue would do better than the development team in the Nelson first divison (which is full of kids) Maybe they could look at having two Suburbs teams in that competition.
Wow, makes a massive change I guess. Wonder how the Suburbs players will feel if all these imports now join their team?
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With John Slotemaker and Paul Brydon's coaching positions up in the air (if you believe the Nelson Mail) is it safe to a say you'd give the spot to a fully paid "director of football" ??
Che Wilson, a former Southend United defender, is currently at Richmond. He joined when Joe Green left and looks a very handy player also. He coaches junior grades with Nelson Bays Football or Nelson Suburbs alongside Ben.
The problem with Suburbs is the squad is so young, so players always leave for uni. Adam Smith's departure will be a huge loss, but keeping hold of the two Solomon boys next year is key, as they both will have finished school and Gagame has been attracting interest from Waitakere United.
Eddie Newman, in my opinion the best goal keeper in the league last year, he started every game forcing Coey Turipa to move to Miramar, is keen to come back to Nelson after shifting back to the UK.
Does anyone seriously believe that a 10 team league would lift the standard of the PFL
Yep. if it's done properly. So what has an 8 team league acheived?
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In the past clubs that go into the play-offs do so on the understanding that if the win they will go up.
Does anyone seriously believe that a 10 team league would lift the standard of the PFL
Yep. if it's done properly. So what has an 8 team league acheived?
AUCKLAND � The final of the ASB Women�s Knockout Cup between Glenfield Rovers and Coastal Spirit will be played in Palmerston North on Sunday 28 August as part of a double header with the ASB Chatham Cup final.
The match will kick off at 11am at Memorial Park followed by the final of the ASB Chatham Cup between Wairarapa United and Napier City Rovers at 2pm.
It is the first time in 14 years that the final of the ASB Women�s Knockout Cup has been held outside Auckland.
New Zealand Football had considered postponing the final to allow for hosting in Auckland or Christchurch but both finalists were happy to play the final at a neutral venue on the originally scheduled date.
�It just adds to what will already be a memorable day,� said New Zealand Football Chief Executive Grant McKavanagh.
�Recent tradition has seen the two finals played as a double header and it�s great to see that continue.�
Cup Finals Day
Sunday August 28, 2011
Memorial Park, Palmerston North
Admission: $10 for adults, children 15 and under no charge.
ASB Women�s Knockout Cup Final
Coastal Spirit v Glenfield Rovers
Kickoff: 11am
ASB Chatham Cup Final
Napier City Rovers v Wairarapa United
Kickoff: 2pm
Can you expand�on this.�The current overall standard with eight team is not that flash were are the extra coaches, players and the officials going to come from if the standard is going to�improve.
The standard of the coaching is the biggest issue, not the players. Nomads are a perfect example of this. they went from a bunch of misguided fools controlled by a raving maniac to a cohesive machine capable of winning the league by changing the coach to someone who understood the game and knew what they were doing. The pitches are also an issue. Year after year the best footy is played prior to May then it all starts to turn to custard as teams train and play in substandard conditions. The new artificial pitch should help. And it may solve another problem as well - league should start mid March 18 games (all at ASB Park on artificial surface - 2 on Friday night, 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday arvo)then top 4 go into South Island league (2 groups of 4) with top 4 Football South teams home and away for further 6 games, top 2 in each group play knock outs with other group top 2 to find winner, highest ranked team gets home advantage. Finishing mid September.
7 Months of football all on good surfaces predominantly. The key thing is all clubs will strive to keep their good players by trying to make the top 4 otherwise run the risk of losing them to the more ambitious clubs. And no relegation - it was fear of losing (read relegation) that got Nomads in the sh*t so quickly this year. Once they got over that they were fine. Just left it to late.
Maybe the goal difference tie like the one between United and Nomads should be decided by who won the most games - not who scored the most goals?
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The standard of the coaching is the biggest issue, not the players. Nomads are a perfect example of this. they went from a bunch of misguided fools controlled by a raving maniac to a cohesive machine capable of winning the league by changing the coach to someone who understood the game and knew what they were doing. The pitches are also an issue. Year after year the best footy is played prior to May then it all starts to turn to custard as teams train and play in substandard conditions. The new artificial pitch should help. And it may solve another problem as well - league should start mid March 18 games (all at ASB Park on artificial surface - 2 on Friday night, 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday arvo)then top 4 go into South Island league (2 groups of 4) with top 4 Football South teams home and away for further 6 games, top 2 in each group play knock outs with other group top 2 to find winner, highest ranked team gets home advantage. Finishing mid September.
7 Months of football all on good surfaces predominantly. The key thing is all clubs will strive to keep their good players by trying to make the top 4 otherwise run the risk of losing them to the more ambitious clubs. And no relegation - it was fear of losing (read relegation) that got Nomads in the sh*t so quickly this year. Once they got over that they were fine. Just left it to late.
Maybe the goal difference tie like the one between United and Nomads should be decided by who won the most games - not who scored the most goals? [/QUOTE]
The standard of the coaching is the biggest issue, not the players. Nomads are a perfect example of this. they went from a bunch of misguided fools controlled by a raving maniac to a cohesive machine capable of winning the league by changing the coach to someone who understood the game and knew what they were doing. The pitches are also an issue. Year after year the best footy is played prior to May then it all starts to turn to custard as teams train and play in substandard conditions. The new artificial pitch should help. And it may solve another problem as well - league should start mid March 18 games (all at ASB Park on artificial surface - 2 on Friday night, 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday arvo)then top 4 go into South Island league (2 groups of 4) with top 4 Football South teams home and away for further 6 games, top 2 in each group play knock outs with other group top 2 to find winner, highest ranked team gets home advantage. Finishing mid September.
7 Months of football all on good surfaces predominantly. The key thing is all clubs will strive to keep their good players by trying to make the top 4 otherwise run the risk of losing them to the more ambitious clubs. And no relegation - it was fear of losing (read relegation) that got Nomads in the sh*t so quickly this year. Once they got over that they were fine. Just left it to late.
Maybe the goal difference tie like the one between United and Nomads should be decided by who won the most games - not who scored the most goals?
Agree with most of this but cant agree with no relegation. Its good to have a new team, like Coastal this year, come up and freshen the league up. Having a closed shop with the same 8 teams would be pretty boring in my opinion.
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The standard of the coaching is the biggest issue, not the players. Nomads are a perfect example of this. they went from a bunch of misguided fools controlled by a raving maniac to a cohesive machine capable of winning the league by changing the coach to someone who understood the game and knew what they were doing. The pitches are also an issue. Year after year the best footy is played prior to May then it all starts to turn to custard as teams train and play in substandard conditions. The new artificial pitch should help. And it may solve another problem as well - league should start mid March 18 games (all at ASB Park on artificial surface - 2 on Friday night, 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday arvo)then top 4 go into South Island league (2 groups of 4) with top 4 Football South teams home and away for further 6 games, top 2 in each group play knock outs with other group top 2 to find winner, highest ranked team gets home advantage. Finishing mid September.
7 Months of football all on good surfaces predominantly. The key thing is all clubs will strive to keep their good players by trying to make the top 4 otherwise run the risk of losing them to the more ambitious clubs. And no relegation - it was fear of losing (read relegation) that got Nomads in the sh*t so quickly this year. Once they got over that they were fine. Just left it to late.
Maybe the goal difference tie like the one between United and Nomads should be decided by who won the most games - not who scored the most goals?
No relegation doesn't mean no promotion. Entry to the league should be criteria based, not solely performance based. Nothing to stop a club who thinks they are up for it from applying. Alternatively when the league splits after the first 2 rounds nothing to stop the 2 top Div 1 teams stepping into the spots vacated by the top teams who head off into the South Island League and playing a further round of games with the remaining teams. Bottom 2 after this round then drop out into Div 1 for next season but are able to play there way back in under the same format in that season. Comprende?
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Mainland have asked teams to double header this weekend to finish off the various uncompleted leagues. My issue is half my team is in the Nth Island for schools national champs on Sunday
Can anyone point me to the deferral of games due to football reasons law
thanks.
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Mainland have asked teams to double header this weekend to finish off the various uncompleted leagues. My issue is half my team is in the Nth Island for schools national champs on Sunday
Can anyone point me to the deferral of games due to football reasons law
thanks.
And yup, confirmed from the horse's mouth - Richmond out!!
Only CBHS had a win [one only] in pool play all the others played 3 lost 3.
Timaru held up this part of the Mainland finishing 2nd in pool F to New Plymouth Boys.
No results yet from Wednesday games.
Pool results make Mags a good bet to win the title again but have we have seen in previous years, semi finals bring the best in the rest and the worst in Mags.
I'll fill you in. Nayland lost 2-0 to Auckland Grammar. Nelson College lost just 1-0 to MAGS. Nelson play Wellington College tomorrow. Both teams can finish as high as fifth now, which looking at Nayland's squad and Nelson's past results is a very very good accomplishment.
I'll fill you in. Nayland lost 2-0 to Auckland Grammar. Nelson College lost just 1-0 to MAGS. Nelson play Wellington College tomorrow. Both teams can finish as high as fifth now, which looking at Nayland's squad and Nelson's past results is a very very good accomplishment.[/QUOTE]
New Zealand Football: Rovers and Spirit ready for Cup final push
August 25, 2011
AUCKLAND � The rival coaches of Glenfield Rovers and Coastal Spirit can agree on two things in the lead up into Sunday�s final of the ASB Women�s Knockout Cup in Palmerston North � the Aucklanders start as favourites but that anything can happen in a final.
The last 16 champions of the national women�s knockout competition have come from the top half of the North Island (14 of those from Auckland) so as champions of the Northern League, Glenfield have history on their side.
At the start of the season Glenfield could field and entire line-up of current, former or age-group internationals and while Football Fern Katie Hoyle has now transferred to the German Bundesliga and former international Priscilla Duncan is unavailable through work commitments, the advantage of experience also lies with the North Shore club.
�I think based on the players we�ve got with international experience, it�s probably fair to call us favourites but it�s a 90 minute game with two teams,� said Glenfield coach Craig Alexander.
�While there may be certain tags assigned, the game�s still got to be played.
�Their players invariably put themselves on the line and I wouldn�t expect anything less from any team out of Christchurch.
�I�ve spoken from players in teams that they have played and I�ve got no shadow of a doubt that Coastal Spirit players will be up for the game and we have to match them in terms of attitude and application.�
Despite a tougher league environment, Glenfield�s run to their second Knockout Cup final only included one fellow Northern League opponent � a semi final against Eastern Suburbs was won 4-1 � but Alexander says a league defeat to Fencibles last weekend has given them a timely wake-up call heading into the cup final.
Meanwhile, Coastal Spirit�s took on three rivals from the Mainland League as well as the champions of Football South champions Roslyn Wakari and Central League winners Waterside Karori.
They finished behind FC Twenty 11 in their own league, although knocked them over in the first round of the cup meaning a win over Glenfield would complete a rare, if not unique, set of cup wins over New Zealand�s four regional champions.
�It wasn�t something I was aware of,� says Coastal; Spirit coach Gareth Turnbull, �but it would be something quite special. It�s a pity we couldn�t win our own league but it wasn�t our main focus. The cup is where we�ve pitched ourselves all season but it would be a fantastic achievement to knock off all regional champs along the way.�
�For us our number one objective for this season was this competition so to have quite a few of those tough games means it�s the same preparation, the same mental desire to get up for them from a group who knows that the number one objective for the year is gone if we lose. We�ve gone through that five or six times now, so in that respect it�s quite beneficial to have more games and against quality opposition.
�Glenfield are absolutely favourites on paper. Not necessarily because they play in Auckland but just looking at the more senior players they have and the senior or age-group players they have.
�We respect our opponents but have no fear. We know that we are a good outfit who likes to play some good football and have some of our own youth internationals in our squad. We think we have the game understanding and desire to match anyone on our day especially in a one-off final. It may sound a bit clich� but anything can happen. We�re prepared and we�ve done a little bit of homework.
The match kicks off at Memorial Park, Palmerston North at 11am followed by the final of the ASB Chatham Cup at 2pm.
18th ASB Women�s Knockout Cup Final
Memorial Park, Palmerston North
Sunday 28 August, 11am
Coastal Spirit v Glenfield Rovers
Coastal Spirit: (from) 1-Lily ALFELD (GK), 2-Chloe WEBSTER, 3-Melanie CAMERON, 4-Emma PROCTOR, 5-Maia VINK (Captain), 6-Chloe JONES, 7-Monique BARKER, 8-Zara WALKER, 9-Kathryn VAN EMPEL, 10-Laura MERRIN, 11-Haley MCKNIGHT, 12-Serena PATEL, 13-Gili SHARROCK, 14-Bridget MILNE, 15-Ashleigh WARD.
Head Coach: Gareth TURNBULL
Glenfield Rovers: (from) 1-Lilly LI (GK), 3-Alice BRESNAHAN, 4-Celia FRAME, 5-Bridgette ARMSTRONG, 6-Briar MCNAMARA, 7-Katie BOWEN, 8-Jaime HACKETT, 9-Rebecca O�NEILL (captain), 10-Stephanie SKILTON, 11-Katie ROOD, 12-Michelle HOGG, 13-Caitlin SMALLFIELD, 14-Jess INNES, 15-Liz MILNE, 16-Sarah GIBBS, 17-Hannah WILKINSON, 18-Hannah GEORGE, 19-Katie MCDONALD, 20-Pam YATES (GK).
Head Coach: Craig ALEXANDER
Match Officials
Referee: Renee SILVESTER
Assistant Referee: Jacqui STEVENSON
Assistant Referee: Sarah WALKER
Fourth official: Shannon SMITH
18th ASB Women�s Knockout Cup� Road to the final
Coastal Spirit
Qualification Round: Coastal Spirit 2 Woolston Technical 0
Round 1: FC Twenty 11 0 Coastal Spirit 4
Round2: Waterside Karori 5 Massey 2
Quarterfinal: Roslyn Wakari 2 Coastal Spirit 5
Semi Final: Coastal Spirit 1 Waterside Karori 1 (Coastal 5 - 4 on pens)
Glenfield Rovers
Round 1: Hibiscus Coast 0 Glenfield Rovers 8
Round2: Glenfield Rovers 10 Waitakere City 1
Quarterfinal: Glenfield Rovers 11 Western Springs 0
Semi Final: Eastern Suburbs 1 Glenfield Rovers 4
South Island Football Championship Final
Cup final Stream vs Sacred Heart (Akld)
3 � 4 MAGS vs Akld Grammar
5 � 6 Nelson vs St Kentigern
7 � 8 Wgtn Coll vs Nayland
Bowl Final Rotorua Boys vs Westlake Boys
11 � 12 New Plymouth Boys vs P/North Boys
13 � 14 St Peters (Cam) vs Rangitoto
15 � 16 St Pauls (Ham) vs Wakatipu
17 � 18 Kelston Boys vs Napier Boys
19 � 20 Tauranga Boys vs Timaru Boys
21 � 22 Francis Douglas vs Marlborough
23 � 24 St Andrews vs Shirley Boys
Plate Final Tawa vs Middleton Grange
27 � 28 Hamilton Boys vs St Bede�s
29 � 30 Chch Boys vs HIBS
31 � 32 St Peters (Akld) vs LindisfarneSouth Island Football Championship Final
A final only no semis is better than nothing but still diappointing.
I do wonder if Mainland was worried about another all Dunedin final?
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South Island Football Championship Final
Not at all. More worried that if a four team series went ahead they would be asked to fund most of it.
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6 of the girls (4 starting) had been at National Secondary Schools tournaments during the week preceding the final and while it contributed to the final scoreline that is no excuse for the loss. Glenfield were the superior team pretty much across the board, as we expected, given the status of most of their players. Coastal girls stuck to the game plan for the first 60 minutes but could not command sufficient possession in the final 3rd to mount any serious attacks, and were wasteful in transition. It was always going to take a major piece of luck for us to win it and that's no real way to win a final even though it sometimes does happen. Congratulations to Glenfield as deserving winners. Maybe we'll see them back there in the final next year, we're planning on it. And a different result.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
6 of the girls (4 starting) had been at National Secondary Schools tournaments during the week preceding the final and while it contributed to the final scoreline that is no excuse for the loss. Glenfield were the superior team pretty much across the board, as we expected, given the status of most of their players. Coastal girls stuck to the game plan for the first 60 minutes but could not command sufficient possession in the final 3rd to mount any serious attacks, and were wasteful in transition. It was always going to take a major piece of luck for us to win it and that's no real way to win a final even though it sometimes does happen. Congratulations to Glenfield as deserving winners. Maybe we'll see them back there in the final next year, we're planning on it. And a different result.
Congratulations to Coastal, great to see them make the final and put in a good performance.
I was very impressed by them in the Quarter final down here and was hoping for an upset in the final.
Has a South Island team ever won the knock out cup?
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