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Stu Kelly transfer pending back to Cash Tech.....

Tech For Life - Part II

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I wonder what happened there

"No money involved, just at my time of life looking for a new challenge...." 

With the A Smith transfer I guess that seals there is going to be docked points.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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Weekend action

Round 8

Saturday - all 2:45pm

Ferrymead Bays vs. Nomads - Ferrymead Park

Universites vs. Coastal Spirit - Ilam Fields

Western vs FC Twenty11 - English Park

Sunday - 1pm

Nelson Suburbs vs. Cashmere Technical - Saxton Fields

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foal30 wrote:

I wonder what happened there

"No money involved, just at my time of life looking for a new challenge...." 

With the A Smith transfer I guess that seals there is going to be docked points.

Ah yes but if the rules are an ass where does that leave you? One player transferring from Halswell to FC can have such a drastic impact on the league? Get real. I say let the results stand and fine FC instead. Changing the points and goal difference actually punishes every club that did take points off FC during the first round. Shouldn't the 3 points and 3-0 result be added to the sides who did get a result against them as well? That's how absurd the whole thing is. That's why I get pissed off when it takes 7 rounds to find the mistake. What's to stop a club spotting a mistake early in the season then wait until the last round before raising the issue with Mainland only once they discover what the benefit to them would be?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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Agree with you.

Let the results stand make it a fine of $2k for each and every breach.

Put the fines money in a kitty to be split at the end of season by the non offending clubs in the league concerned. 

Coaching staff at some clubs must be over worked if they can't spend two minutes checking new players details.

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Scottie Rd wrote:

Agree with you.

Let the results stand make it a fine of $2k for each and every breach.

Put the fines money in a kitty to be split at the end of season by the non offending clubs in the league concerned. 

Coaching staff at some clubs must be over worked if they can't spend two minutes checking new players details.

When you think about it, fines do more damage than result changes.

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inafoxhole wrote:
Scottie Rd wrote:

Agree with you.

Let the results stand make it a fine of $2k for each and every breach.

Put the fines money in a kitty to be split at the end of season by the non offending clubs in the league concerned. 

Coaching staff at some clubs must be over worked if they can't spend two minutes checking new players details.

When you think about it, fines do more damage than result changes.

Pourquoi?

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
inafoxhole wrote:
Scottie Rd wrote:

Agree with you.

Let the results stand make it a fine of $2k for each and every breach.

Put the fines money in a kitty to be split at the end of season by the non offending clubs in the league concerned. 

Coaching staff at some clubs must be over worked if they can't spend two minutes checking new players details.

When you think about it, fines do more damage than result changes.

Pourquoi?

Was Scottie Rd suggesting FC 2011 get pinged $2k for every game this bloke played in? Or just once for the one misregistration? Either way, that's a heavier cost than losing points on the table, even if it leads to relegation. I think player/squad management on a fed level leaves a lot to be desired, as an aside.

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inafoxhole wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
inafoxhole wrote:
Scottie Rd wrote:

Agree with you.

Let the results stand make it a fine of $2k for each and every breach.

Put the fines money in a kitty to be split at the end of season by the non offending clubs in the league concerned. 

Coaching staff at some clubs must be over worked if they can't spend two minutes checking new players details.

When you think about it, fines do more damage than result changes.

Pourquoi?

Was Scottie Rd suggesting FC 2011 get pinged $2k for every game this bloke played in? Or just once for the one misregistration? Either way, that's a heavier cost than losing points on the table, even if it leads to relegation. I think player/squad management on a fed level leaves a lot to be desired, as an aside.

To me the points deduction and score change is not an equitable solution as it negatively affects clubs not directly involved in those games. The rule is there to stop clubs from benefiting from scurrilous behavior, but the outcome is the opposing side benefits. You could hardly call what happened with FC cheating? Scottie's proposal only affects the club that committed the crime which is as it should be surely? None of the clubs that lost points could reasonably cry foul over playing against a player that they may have met in the league last year? 

If a fine is not an agreeable solution why not just take the points off them? I fail to see why the opposition should benefit, it doesn't make sense. Where did this idea that reversing the score to a 3-0 loss even come from? To me it has no basis as a justifiable solution to an administrative error.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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So what's going to happen with all my bets with TAB? I hope I can keep the money I earned of FC wins...

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Think back to uni in their promotion season from div 1 and they had all their points taken from them for a misregistration of a player. Why is this any different? There is a precedent of this so it sticks.

Justice is served.

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BrightSpark wrote:
Think back to uni in their promotion season from div 1 and they had all their points taken from them for a misregistration of a player. Why is this any different? There is a precedent of this so it sticks.
Happy with the points being taken off them, don't see why they are awarded to the opposition with a 3-0 score line.

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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Wang Chan wrote:

So what's going to happen with all my bets with TAB? I hope I can keep the money I earned of FC wins...

yes the TAB pays on the result of the game on the day

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
BrightSpark wrote:
Think back to uni in their promotion season from div 1 and they had all their points taken from them for a misregistration of a player. Why is this any different? There is a precedent of this so it sticks.
Happy with the points being taken off them, don't see why they are awarded to the opposition with a 3-0 score line.

This it the standard ruling NZ wide, if not world wide.

Since the MPL commenced in 2002 their have been seven incidents of rulings of an ineligible player with all seven resulting in the 3 points 'awarded' to the non offending side.

Also two cases in the qualifying league has cost two teams promotion for playing an ineligible player(s).

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Tipping competitions have never been so difficult.

I let my guitar speak for me

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
BrightSpark wrote:
Think back to uni in their promotion season from div 1 and they had all their points taken from them for a misregistration of a player. Why is this any different? There is a precedent of this so it sticks.
Happy with the points being taken off them, don't see why they are awarded to the opposition with a 3-0 score line.

Them's the rules, Ron.

MPL is subject to the criteria in NZF Regulation 5 re Player Eligibility, namely:

  1. "8.4 In the event of an ineligible player playing (taking the field as player and participating either in full or in part of a match), the following sanctions will apply:
    1. 8.4.1 The offending team shall be sanctioned with a forfeit and will be considered to have lost the match by 3-0;
    2. 8.4.2 The opposing team shall be awarded the points for the match. If the goal difference at the end of the match is greater than three in favour of the opposing team, the result on the pitch is upheld; "
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Ronaldoknow wrote:
BrightSpark wrote:
Think back to uni in their promotion season from div 1 and they had all their points taken from them for a misregistration of a player. Why is this any different? There is a precedent of this so it sticks.
Happy with the points being taken off them, don't see why they are awarded to the opposition with a 3-0 score line.

Understandable - I personally don't think it's too much of a bother, but I can see how it gives certain teams points and goals they didn't actually earn and how that would irk. At the same time, it's a rule that's meant to cover something like Club A bringing in 'Stu Kelly' improperly and beating Club B, and obviously in a situation like that, Club B would justifiably feel entitled to the points/goals, and while we might be able to go 'oh, Anton Smith didn't have that kind of impact' (did he?) we can't let the specific situation dictate the general rule.

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Round 8

Ferrymead Bays 1 (Fraser Angus) Nomads 0 HT 1 - 0

Universities 2 (Aaron Heath, Jared Meekin) Coastal Spirit 2 (Sam Orritt, Aaron Spain) HT 1 - 0

Western 0 FC Twenty11 5 (Ben Lapslie 3, Callum Smith, Corey Goodall) HT 0 - 3

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Undated Table - with Nelson Suburbs playing Cashmere Technical on Sunday:

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
Ferrymead Bays 8 6 0 2 10 6 4 18
Coastal Spirit 8 5 2 1 17 8 9 17
Cashmere Technical 7 5 0 2 27 7 20 15
FC Twenty11 8 4 1 3 17 18 -1 13
Nelson Suburbs 7 3 2 2 12 8 4 11
Nomads 8 2 2 4 9 15 -6 8
Universities 8 1 1 6 8 18 -10 4
Western 8 1 0 7 4 24 -20 3
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He should be fined for accepting a hyphenated name

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Canterbury Championship League

Halswell 1 Waimak 2

Parklands 1 ChCh United 2

Selwyn 4 Burwood 3

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
Selwyn United 5 4 1 0 18 6 12 13
Christchurch United 5 4 0 1 10 7 3 12
Waimak United 5 3 1 1 8 6 2 10
Halswell United 5 2 0 3 10 14 -4 6
Parklands 5 1 0 4 8 10 -2 3
Burwood 5 0 0 5 8 19 -11 0
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Coastal contingency quiet tonight

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No trolling tonight.

I let my guitar speak for me

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No trolling tonight.

I let my guitar speak for me

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FootyFan1903 wrote:

Coastal contingency quiet tonight

We're all busy going through Uni's team card and the rule book :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
FootyFan1903 wrote:

Coastal contingency quiet tonight

We're all busy going through Uni's team card and the rule book :)

Here is me thinking you did not believe in teams loosing points.

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It's contingent. Contingency is a plan based on various predetermined criteria happening which make that particular contingency plan effective. 

Example: In the event Footyfan1903 comments, correct him. So that's a contingency plan. Executed. Awesome to have the opportunity. 

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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nobody thinks you're cool Shushy. You just sound a donkey.

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Eeeow calls me that.

I let my guitar speak for me

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FootyFan1903 wrote:

nobody thinks you're cool Shushy. You just sound a donkey.

I love it when the object of the ridicule makes out he is part of a majority of some kind. Always worth a laugh. HeeHaw

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
FootyFan1903 wrote:

Coastal contingency quiet tonight

We're all busy going through Uni's team card and the rule book :)

Here is me thinking you did not believe in teams loosing points.

Haha no problem with them losing points, in fact I actually agree with that but just can't see why they automatically get awarded to the opposition and a 3-0 reversal invoked. The same player who was illegal last week will pull on his lucky Spider-Man undies this week as a perfectly legit player. So why the big hoo haa? 

It will be interesting to see what impact this has on the league at the end of the season. Anyway, back to trolling .........

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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Progress Nelson Suburbs 0 Cashmere Technical 1

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Now 1 - 1 , Ben Wright levels for Suburbs after Daniel Thoms scored for Tech in 1st half.

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Cashmere Technical now 2 - 1 up against Nelson Suburbs - Jordan Halligan the scorer.

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Into added tike and Cash Technical still 2 - 1 up

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FT Nelson Suburbs 1 (Ben Wright) Cashmere Technical (Daniel Thoms, Jordan Halligan) HT 0 - 1

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:
FootyFan1903 wrote:

Coastal contingency quiet tonight

We're all busy going through Uni's team card and the rule book :)

Here is me thinking you did not believe in teams loosing points.

Haha no problem with them losing points, in fact I actually agree with that but just can't see why they automatically get awarded to the opposition and a 3-0 reversal invoked. The same player who was illegal last week will pull on his lucky Spider-Man undies this week as a perfectly legit player. So why the big hoo haa? 

It will be interesting to see what impact this has on the league at the end of the season. Anyway, back to trolling .........

It's possible this season will be remembered as the Judicary Season. 

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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Deleted to avoid confusion (was MPL table for FC ruling)

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Table has updated with FC Twenty situation

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howzat wrote:

Table has updated with FC Twenty situation

And it needs to be further updated - Mainland seems to be incapable of administering the relevant rule correctly. A 4-2 result (i.e. a goal difference of 2) should become a 3-0 result under the following rule, not 4-0:
  1. 8.4.2 The opposing team shall be awarded the points for the match. If the goal difference at the end of the match is greater than three in favour of the opposing team, the result on the pitch is upheld "
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