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Go Upper hutt, a good win lads!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Go Upper hutt, a good win lads!
 
Yes it was great. Capital Soccer have it wrong again though. The score was Upper Hutt 2 marist 0. Not 2-1 as they have it.
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If they had a Yellow Fever link on their website like they used to at least people could come here for the correct results! 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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that man smithy on top of things again.
 
when are you playing again as it would be good to see you on the park soon?
 
Top Man Smithy
RoyOfTheRovers2008-04-27 19:05:41
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wairarapa 2-1 Island Bay according to Capital football
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Central League (26-4-08)
 
                                   P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts   W%
Miramar Rangers        4  3  1  0  11   4      10  75.0
Olympic                       4  3  0  1  13   7      9  75.0
Lower Hutt City          4  2  2  0  17   6      8  50.0
Petone                       4  2  1  1   5   1       7  50.0
Napier City Rovers     4  1  3  0  10   8     6  25.0
Wellington United       4  2  0  2   4   4      6  50.0
Western Suburbs        4  1  1  2   6   8     4  25.0
Palm Nth Marist         4  0  3  1   6   9       3   0.0
Team Taranaki          4  0  1  3   1   9       1   0.0
Stop Out                   4  0  0  4   4  21      0   0.0
 
Top 6 Goal Scorers
 
Pedro Garcia             (LH)                     7
Stu Wilson                 (Napier)              6
Mickey Malivuk          (Olympic)            6
Anthony Neonakis    (Olympic)            3
Graham Mulvey        (Miramar)            3
Wayne Rooker         (LH)                     3
Pitbull2008-04-27 18:24:28
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Big ups to Pitbull for regularly putting up points tables of each league in their respective threads after every match week
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i agree big thumbs up, wish they looked a little different tho,
 
will have to fix that next wee tho...
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disappointed to hear a few Olympic supporters were getting a bit OTT at the weekend. Giving abuse and being threatening.
Also whats this about B Pickering at the Utd/Petone game?

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Feverish wrote:
disappointed to hear a few Olympic supporters were getting a bit OTT at the weekend. Giving abuse and being threatening.
Also whats this about B Pickering at the Utd/Petone game?
 
Facts please " if so present facts or stop the rumours"
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Da Boss wrote:
Feverish wrote:
disappointed to hear a few Olympic supporters were getting a bit OTT at the weekend. Giving abuse and being threatening.
Also whats this about B Pickering at the Utd/Petone game?
 
Facts please " if so present facts or stop the rumours"
 
sounds like it was the third team on the sidelines being rather crass. When asked nicely to tone down the colourful language one of them got rather threatening.

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Feverish wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
Feverish wrote:
disappointed to hear a few Olympic supporters were getting a bit OTT at the weekend. Giving abuse and being threatening.
Also whats this about B Pickering at the Utd/Petone game?
 
Facts please " if so present facts or stop the rumours"
 
sounds like it was the third team on the sidelines being rather crass. When asked nicely to tone down the colourful language one of them got rather threatening.
may be they got a bit "excited" judging from their win earlier on...!!!!!!!!!!
Do not condone this but on the other hand as you said above "one" supporter does not really justify your comments as " a few Olympic Supporters"....
May be he was getting a bit frustrated with the on "the pitch action"...!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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You're Not Funny Any More

 
Park Life is the Fever's often-late, rarely-read, occasionally-amusing report on the local football scene.  This week we review a weekend of predictability in the Big Travel League.

 

Wests and Hutt grind out draw

 

The big game of the big league this weekend was Western Suburbs playing Lower Hutt at Endeavour Park.

 

This Round 4 match up was the game of the season to date played in scorching conditions at a picturesque Endeavour Park.

 

Lower Hutt ushered back a stack of Team Wellington players - reportedly in defiance of a request from Stuie Jacobs that players who had been playing for TW recently have a couple of weeks off � including Stevie G, Luis "OK" Coralles, Ginger Ronaldo and Peter Howe while Wests saw the return of Tim Schaeffers and Sam Peters to shore up their defence.
 
Both sides started with identical 4-3-3 formations.  Wests looking to hit Hutt on the counter with the pacey Ben Feld as striker.


Hutt started brightly and held the majority of possession often looking to get Coralles and Gulley in behind the Wests defence. Wests defended stoutly however and forced Hutt to play through their central midfield players; nullifying their main weaponry.

 

Having soaked up early pressure it was Wests who broke the deadlock when the impressive Roddy Brown leapt up salmon style to outjump Phil Patterson and give Wests the lead on 18 minutes.

 

Soon after a purple patch of fine passing Wests saw two good chances go by as Feld failed to head home after some fine approach work.


Hutt became increasingly frustrated despite having the greater share of possession with Schaffers doing a textbook man marking job on Hutt dangerman Pedro 5 Goals. 

 

But on 37 minutes Hutt got just reward their fine first half football when Stevie G got in behind the Wests defence and cut back well for Ginger Ronaldo to stab home the equaliser at his second attempt.


Halftime came and the scores were locked at one each.
 
Hutt began the second half as they had ended the first. Concerted pressure forcing Wests to drop both wide attackers deep leaving Feld isolated upfront.


Blackburn pounced on a stray Wests pass to set up Coralles who took his finish well and gave Lower Hutt a 72nd minute lead.

 

At this stage Hutt looked in complete control and it was now Wests who had to gamble. They pressed Hutt higher in search of an equaliser and suddenly the game had changed.

 

Hutt found themselves often giving the ball away under pressure and magnificent midfielder Brown was causing huge problems with his playmaking. 

 

When Dan Bassett handled in his own box Wests had a lifeline with a penalty.

It wasn't easy for them however.  Dave Johnson's spot kick brilliantly saved by Nick van Hattum who has stamped his mark as a credible Central League keeper since leaving Premier League Karori at the end of last season.

 

Hutt's euphoria at the save was short lived however as from the resulting corner Smith scrambled home an equaliser on 85 minutes to send the match to 2-2.

And that was how it stayed.
 
Wests will definitely see this as a point gained with squad numbers set to improve in forthcoming weeks.


Hutt earned their first point off Wests since 2005 but will be disappointed to have not converted this prime opportunity to grab all three from their arch rivals.

 

Handbags at 10 Paces as Petone see off United

 

This game always promised to be interesting and it didn't disappoint.

 

Both sides lined up a 4-4-2 on an immaculate day at a pristine Newtown Park that showed no ill effects of having had 22 old fellas run round on it earlier in the day.

 

Scanning the team sheets looking for something scandalous to write about Park Life couldn't help but notice that there were a number of names he recognised in the Petone squad and only one or two in that of Ross Durant's Wellington United. 

 

No scandal so far though � that was to come later on.

 

The approach of both sides was almost identical.  Petone opted for a holding midfielder in floppy-mulletted Rowan McCullough while the Oranje played a flat midfield four.  Petone pressed more in the midfield third on defence while United looked to fill space and smother attacks a bit deeper.  But otherwise it was very even as these two sides, destined for the middle of the Big Travel table, knocked it about and looked for an edge.

 

As the half wore on McCullough was increasingly able to find time and space around the half way as United left him alone to drop off.  This gave Petone a comfortable outlet from the back and they began to run everything through him.

 

Petone looked to attack directly through Whitmarsh and the zippy Dicky McLay but United's back four had the measure of them and it was through wide men Benn (with two Ns) Dawson and Mikey Pickering that they fashioned many of their chances.

 

United were also finding the odd opportunity out wide as Luke Jones and Steve Dornan worked around their men.  The delivery of the final ball was lacking though and Jim Bannatyne wasn't troubled.

 

At the other end Petone were starting to fire though and McLay, Pickering and Dawson all had opportunities.  Dale Warburton looked very sharp in goal for the Oranje and made a succession of fine saves to keep the score nil all at the break.  An even scoreline belying the fact that Petone had dominated more and more as the clock ran down.

 

The second half belonged to Petone though.

 

The Petone defence was too well organised, more physical and the midfield closed down their opposites quickly giving United no time to build anything meaningful.

 

Their goal came from a misdirected cross that rebounded off the post straight into the path of Neil Barclay who smashed it home. 

 

Petone a little lucky but no more than they deserved.

 

United rang the changes in an effort to get back into the game and began to look dangerous on the break - almost fashioning an equaliser.

 

But all the possession was with the Blues and they were in the end comfortable winners.

 

Park Life finally got the scandal we were looking for when gentle Mikey Pickering � not known for his bobsledding prowess � put in a late challenge on Richie Gray right in front of the Petone dugout. 

 

Both players got up with their handbags flapping but it was Petone dad Barry Pickering who really saw the red mist and got involved.

 

The end result: yellows to the players and banishment for Barry to the dressing rooms.

 

All a little unsavoury and not a good look but just the sort of juicy titbit that Park Life lives for. 

 

Miramar Too Strong for Visiting Taranaki

 

The big surprise of the weekend came at Centennial Park where it took Miramar close to 15 minutes to score against visiting Taranaki.

 

No Super Brockie for the Mar this week � clearly feeling that his one man destruction of the Greeks earned him a week off � so it was a more familiar Mulvey-Smith forward combo that opened the scoring.  Hulking Graham Mulvey the man with the finish: a routine left foot tap in from a Tommy Smith With An I knock down.

 

Mulvey turned provider for the next goal when he returned an over-hit corner to the far edge of the box for centre half Shane Medland to head in to give Miramar a comfortable 2-0 half time advantage.

 

Soldiers often say that being on the frontline is a strange combination of boredom and adrenaline.  Goalkeepers often agree but Simon Shone would have been desperately longing for some action to get his adrenaline going as he stood this one out in goal with nothing to do.

 

The Mar relaxed in the second half and it wasn't until the hour mark that they scored again.  Chris Peck drifting in a sublime cross that Mulvey hand balled to Smith With An I.  He slotted from the edge of the box to give the Mar the 3-0 lead that would last them to the final whistle.

 

More of the Same from the Raceway

 

Many in Wellington have been waiting for the Greeks to self destruct this season.  Some thought that their capitulation to one-man-team-Brockie last week heralded the beginning of it and they were almost right as Olympic were held to 1-1 at the Raceway by relegation hopefuls Stop Out until nearly the 80th minute.

 

The 4-1 final scoreline belies the closeness of this one and Stop Out will take heart that not only did they keep Olympic scoreless for the first half but also managed, through Captain Ross's strike, to bring the scores level again having gone behind early in the second spell. 

 

Indeed that goal was almost enough for them to take a point away from the league's third-placed team.

 

But not quite.

 

With 10 minutes to and four 15 year olds running around for them Stop Out dropped their bundle big time.

 

Mickey Malivuk's screaming header from edge of box made it 2-1 and the loud whoosh as the wind fell out of Stop Out's sails could be heard as far away as Centennial Park where it put a smile on the face of relegation-dodging-hopefuls Taranaki.

 

The third goal followed the only good piece of refereeing from an otherwise minging Jamie Cross as he allowed Anthony Neonakis to play on following a foul on goalscorer Mickey.

 

Neonakis's first touch was so poor it bamboozled the Stop Out defender but he made up for it by scoring with his second to take the score to 3-1.

 

Stop Out's misery was compounded by Neonakis late on when he capitalised on a mistake at the back to lob a bobbling ball over Sam Bakker and into the net to make what could have been a 1-1 draw into a 4-1 spanking.

 

The Olympic resurgence might silence the doubters for another week or two.  They stay third and Stop Out stay somewhere close to the bottom.

 

Park Life is in two minds about whether to give Stop Out credit for trusting in the youth that they have brought up through the club � O Thani, Luke Hartstonge, Jono Coulter and Justin  Gulley (brother of Lower Hutt's Stevie G) are all 15 and all played against Olympic. 

 

Either it's great to see a club with a youth policy or disappointing to see a club throwing kids to the wolves when their team is way off the pace.  We can't decide, so we've made it the subject of a Yellow Fever poll.  You tell us!

 

Wilson Hat Trick Gets Draw from Marist

 

It wouldn't be Park Life if we'd been thorough and diligent.  True to form we have missed covering a match this weekend and even truer to form it is the match with the most goals.

 

Having spent our budget on pies and pastries we couldn't travel to Palmy to cover this one but the 3-3 draw between the Pope's Own Marist and Rovers leaves Rovers 5th in the Big Travel League and denies Marist their first win.  They stay third to bottom but two points and a few goals clear of next to last Taranaki.

 

Marist will have few worries about falling into the drop zone thought.  It's already stitched up by the Derby and Bolton of the Big Travel League � Stop Out and Taranaki. 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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A pleasure to read again Smithy, top Stuff.
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It was a good bobsled
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It got pretty interesting in the stands at Newtown too.

Fuck this stupid game

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Da Boss wrote:
Feverish wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
[QUOTE=Feverish]disappointed to hear a few Olympic supporters were getting a bit OTT at the weekend. Giving abuse and being threatening.
Also whats this about B Pickering at the Utd/Petone game?
 
Facts please " if so present facts or stop the rumours"
 
sounds like it was the third team on the sidelines being rather crass. When asked nicely to tone down the colourful language one of them got rather threatening.
may be they got a bit "excited" judging from their win earlier on...!!!!!!!!!!
Do not condone this but on the other hand as you said above "one" supporter does not really justify your comments as " a few Olympic Supporters"....
May be he was getting a bit frustrated with the on "the pitch action"...!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I was standing close by, don't think it was any of the third team players as i didn't recognise the face from the game we played earlier. the guy was getting frustrated with the refs decision and one of the stop out boys offer his viewson the matter, he got alittle carried away and was told to calm down by his mate who then apologised - no real harm done
nakisponge2008-04-28 21:25:02
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It got pretty interesting in the stands at Newtown too
 
Tell us more, what was happening up in the grandstand
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One of the Petone supporters was being a head-case basically. Abusing any WU supporter he could with sh*t a 12 year old could/would think up (this guy must have been about 40) and after a few comments from the WU supporters he started making threats which quickly followed by some equally stoopid comments from his female friend. He got the last laugh/ last yell of abuse as the WU crew left the stand tho. Petone 1-0 winners.

Fuck this stupid game

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great work park life. when do we get this weeks preview?
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Im an Olympic 3rd team player, and was standing behind the Olympic goal during all of this.. The fact is a few words were exchanged with the Stop Out player Rossco? as they walked off at half time, when HE scored, he celebrated by gesturing the 3rd team players standing behind the goal. Then when the flood gates for Olympic opened, he got it back, and a bit more.. a few words were exchanged, but nothing too bad.. and that was it!... basically if you give it you have to take it...
 
But in my opinion, and its probably for another forum topic, Stop Out were very poor in Central League and Capital 2, and i really feel for the young guys they played!!.. 2 of the 15 year olds that played for the Central League team, also played against us earlier... its not for me to criticise but playing for both teams for that long is not good for the game, and certainly not god for the confidence of these kids... in the ealrier game againt our 3rd team (whom we thrashed 5-0) many comments were made to us, about taking it easy on the young kids!!!  .. well in my opinion, if they are prepared to play them then they should be prepared for the tough tackles as well!!..
 
From memeory they had 3 players who were 15 and a 14 yr old goalkeeper(who wasnt too bad, just didnt want to come off his line).
 
To us in the 3rd team... was payback from last year, where Stop Out won the division 3 league thrashing us 5-0 by playing 8 of their first team against us to ensure they got promoted... Justice on saturday i say!!!
 
To me... when you have a 43 yrs and a 38yr old strikers and an average age of 39yrs in the team, tearing their team apart scoring 5 goals (and missing heaps more) then there is something not right with NZ Football!!, especially at that grade..
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Hard News wrote:
Probably about midday tomorrow if the last few weeks are any indication.
 
Park Life pays the lies of fat men no heed.
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Here Comes the Weekend
 
 
Park Life is the Fever's irregular, irreverent, irrational report on the local football scene. Today we preview this weekend's soggy Big Travel League.

Well here we are on a fabulously sunny Friday looking forward to a great weekend of football. Or so you'd think. In fact � because it's been p1ssing down this week and is going to again tonight � what we should be looking forward to is a weekend of bobsleds, mud and kick-and-chase. And that's before we've even mentioned Olympic!

This weekend's match ups are harder to pick than a broken nose (as the 12th Man once said) but we'll still give it a shot and get it horribly wrong.

Pope's Own Marist take on Zeus's Olympic

Olympic hit the road again to take on Marist in Palmy. The quality of the far-away teams in the Big Travel League really is questionable these days and one wonders at the value of all of this expensive tripping up and down the country. Perhaps a return to a Wellington-only league isn't too far away?

But we digress.

Marist have been going alright lately and their third-bottom position doesn't do justice to their quality. They had an entertaining mad-cap 3-3 draw with Napier last week but will have been disappointed not to pull three points from that one.

Olympic should be too good for them but you never quite know which Olympic you're going to get. Will it be the out-all-night-smashing-plates Olympic or the our-midfield-is-awesome-and-Barry-is-scary Olympic that can beat anyone on their day.

Our shout? Marist at home to be good enough for a point against an Olympic who can't decide if they're contenders or not.

Oranje host Napier

Napier have supplemented their battling stock players with some more Franchise League talent since Park Life last watched them thieve a point from a lazy Miramar a few weeks ago. They sit an improbable and unsustainable 5th ahead only by goal difference of their rivals this weekend.

United on the other hand haven't supplemented anything with anybody and will be the same side as they've had pretty much since day one. They sit 6th which is exactly where they'll end up at the end of the season.

Last week United were good but not good enough to beat a well drilled Petone side. They'll be good enough to take the points at home this weekend though. Head to Newtown Park to watch this low-scoring and fairly dull affair.

Hutt Derby at Bell

There's a tight tussle this weekend for game of the round. Wests Miramar is the obvious drawcard but the cross-the-tracks clash at Bell Park wouldn't be a bad shout if driving all the way to Endeavour seems like purgatory.

Hutt are behind by a nose to Miramar at the moment in what looks set to be a three horse title race. They have an abundance of attacking talent with the likes Pedro 5 Goals, OK Corrales, Wayne Rooker and Churchy but they also now have some defensive solidity having welcomed back Peter Howe and Stevie G to bolster the ranks. Nick van Hattum has also proved he's more than just a pink shirt.

You might think that such an all-star lineup would cakewalk it against a team that got promoted last year but that doesn't do Fozzie's Petone any justice at all. Last weekend's game against United proved that Petone have plenty of football in their locker. They cut up United with quick and intelligent midfield play and if Bell Park has held up under the weather then this could be an electrifying tie.

They key matchup in this one seems certain to be in the midfield where McCullough won't have all the time he had at Newtown Park. Will he be able to find enough space to feed quality to his attacking players while still keeping a lid on Rooker?

Lower Hutt should have too much quality in this one but Petone won't go down lightly. If you're a Valley dweller and your car isn't up on blocks then get to Bell Park to watch this entertaining late-goal-fest 3-1 win to Lower Hutt in which Petone score first.

Wests vs The Mar

Graham Little hates Wests. There. We've said it. We can hear you all gasping in shock but let's be honest there was never really any secret about it.

Some keen-eyed anorak-wearing nerd on Fever's forums recently pointed out that Wests don't often lose to the Mar and nobody is more acutely aware of this than new gaffer and Franchise League runner up G Little.

The Chote Triumvirate have been working around the clock to secure Cole Tinkler's services for this one but at the time of printing nobody would reply to Park Life's texts so we can't confirm what we suspect: that he hasn't signed on.

The Mar do have Greek-busting Brockie back in harness though and also hustle back Eager Mike and Jamie Far. Far likely to play at left back to leave centre back pairing Shane Medland and Dicey unchanged.

It's difficult to tell how the Mar will line up against Wests's Chelski-style 4-3-3. Expect Eager Mike in a holding role in the midfield, with Brooke Frazer on the left and Brockie doing whatever he feels like wherever he fancies it. Up front it could be Goal-a-game Irish journeyman Mulvey with amusingly-named Tommy Smith With an I. Or it could be one of the seventeen other strikers Gaffer G has recruited. We're picking some rendition of a 4-4-2.

The Wilson Collective have also had significant success in securing players. Many of them capable of upsetting the Mar's apple cart. Despite putting his hand through a window in a manner befitting a certain pie-eating flash-in-the-pan thick-as-two-short-planks cricketer Sam Jenkins should make a return to Endeavour Park albeit just to sit on the bench.

Adopted Wilson Daniel Ellensohn will start though. Ellensohn has put his lederhosen back in the cupboard and cancelled plans to travel to Europe for yodelling lessons to play in this game and that is as good a measure as any of how much both sides want to win. Rumours that he would be evicted onto the streets of Plimmerton if he didn't play have been denied strenuously by Wests sources.

Park Life predicts a ding dong end to end match but - at the risk of alienating one half of our regular gossip-suppliers - reckons Miramar might just shade it against a cobbled together Suburbs.

The Game We All Want to Watch

No, Park Life isn't kidding. This is the game of the round. The loser will be condemned, despite it being early doors in the season, to relegation while if the Naki win they might just climb above second-bottom if the Greeks undo the Pope's Own Marist in Boganville.

Park Life couldn't get any time on the party line phone system that runs into Taranaki and our smoke signals went unanswered so we can't tell you much about the Naki except that they keep getting marginally better.

One Big Travel League player Park Life spoke to said that the Naki were better than Napier when he played them and were unlucky to lose as badly as they did. He predicted they would fare increasingly well. He is now recovering in a medical institution at the pleasure of Her Majesty the Queen.

Like Bruce Willis in 12 Monkeys though the crazy guy could be right. The Naki are getting plaudits around the traps as a well organised outfit who, while technically off the pace, are getting better round by round.

Stop Out are not getting many plaudits. Posters on Fever's forums � always the home of well-reasoned argument as regular readers will know � are divided as to whether it's the coach's fault, the committee's fault or the players' fault that they are so poor. Park Life is a blame-sharer at heart so suspects it's a little of all three.

In Stop Out's favour this week are that they've scored more goals than the Naki. Crouch-impersonator John McKay has yet to find a vein of form but the midfield have been contributing and they've knocked in four to the Naki's one.

They have also conceded a sensational 21 (that's right readers, TWENTY ONE) goals in four games.

Stop Out are back at full strength this week with only Lawrence Guetta unavailable through injury. English centre-half Dion Scott will be crucial in attempts to stem the flood of goals and returning captain Gary McDermott will also need to be on his game.

Get down to the Yarrow if you can to watch Stop Out capitulate late on after looking likely for 80 minutes.

And that's it for yet another exciting weekend of football.

Park Life confidently predicts that all junior football will be cancelled tomorrow so mums and dads you get a lazy lie in. Then you can take your kids out to watch some scintillating Big Travel League.

Park Life
Park Life2008-05-02 14:54:47
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Blocker wrote:
 
But in my opinion, and its probably for another forum topic, Stop Out were very poor in Central League and Capital 2, and i really feel for the young guys they played!!.. 2 of the 15 year olds that played for the Central League team, also played against us earlier... its not for me to criticise but playing for both teams for that long is not good for the game, and certainly not god for the confidence of these kids... in the ealrier game againt our 3rd team (whom we thrashed 5-0) many comments were made to us, about taking it easy on the young kids!!!  .. well in my opinion, if they are prepared to play them then they should be prepared for the tough tackles as well!!..
 
From memeory they had 3 players who were 15 and a 14 yr old goalkeeper(who wasnt too bad, just didnt want to come off his line).
 
To us in the 3rd team... was payback from last year, where Stop Out won the division 3 league thrashing us 5-0 by playing 8 of their first team against us to ensure they got promoted... Justice on saturday i say!!!
 
To me... when you have a 43 yrs and a 38yr old strikers and an average age of 39yrs in the team, tearing their team apart scoring 5 goals (and missing heaps more) then there is something not right with NZ Football!!, especially at that grade..
 
Agree with you there Blocker, the kids should not expect any favours. If you are playing mens football you must expect mens (but fair) tackles and all the other gamesmenship that happens in mens football.  

A dog with a bone :)

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Park Life wrote:
 
 
Posters on Fever's forums � always the home of well-reasoned argument as regular readers will know � are divided as to whether it's the coach's fault, the committee's fault or the players' fault that they are so poor. Park Life is a blame-sharer at heart so suspects it's a little of all three.




I'm not sure there is fault in what they are doing, or if there is a fault, it perhaps really lies with the state of football in New Zealand that sees players requiring vast amounts for their services, in what is, effectively,  the third tier in the New Zealand football pyramid.

I understand that the committee have decided that, instead of pumping money into the a team of
itinerant  football players to come mid-table or lower in the Big Travel league, it is better to use the money to develop talent from within, and try to mold a team that want to play for Stop Out for the next few years.  This is why the have acquired a coach, not just for the first team, but someone that will really work at all levels of coaching in the club, and has security in his position.

I don't know how successful they will be, but SO are at least trying something different.  The way clubs are burning money on the Central League is a disaster for the game in New Zealand IMHO.
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i told Park Life that dirty Stop Out will win - but looks like I was ignored.. Feverish2008-05-02 22:00:44

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Petone leading LH  2-0 at half time, with both teams down to 10, after "a nasty fight"
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Central League
 
 
Wellington United     0    Napier City Rovers    3
                                    Chris Davies       1
                                   Stu Wilson         1
                                    Sam Messam         1


Lower Hutt City       1    Petone                2
Pedro Garcias      1       John Winkworth     1
                                     David Lane         1


Western Suburbs       1    Miramar Rangers       1
J. Rowe?      1                   D. Rowe       1


Palm Nth Marist       1    Olympic               1
Josh Smith          1          Micky Malivuk      1


Sunday
Team Taranaki         _    Stop Out              _


                                   P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts   W%
Miramar Rangers        5  3  2  0  12   5      11  60.0
Olympic                       5  3  1  1  14   8     10  60.0
Petone                        5  3  1  1   7   2      10  60.0
Napier City Rovers      5  2  3  0  13   8     9  40.0
Lower Hutt City           5  2  2  1  18   8     8  40.0
Wellington United        5  2  0  3   4   7      6  40.0
Western Suburbs        5  1  2  2   7   9      5  20.0
Palm Nth Marist           5  0  4  1   7  10     4   0.0
Team Taranaki            4  0  1  3   1   9       1   0.0
Stop Out                     4  0  0  4   4  21      0   0.0
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CHAMPS PREMIER:

Marist                     3         Western Suburbs       0
Greg O'Connor       2
Said Solemanpor    1



Kapiti Coast United   5    Upper Hutt City       3


Miramar Rangers       0    Island Bay United     0


Tawa                         2    Lower Hutt City       2
Own Goal            1           Simon Millyn       1
Peter Withers      1          Ewan Barclay       1

Sunday
Wairarapa United      _    Waterside Karori      _


                                 P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts   W%
Tawa                         5  4  1  0  14   6    13  80.0
Wairarapa United      4  3  0  1  12   5    9  75.0
Island Bay United      5  2  2  1  10   5    8  40.0
Upper Hutt City         5  2  1  2  12   9    7  40.0
Waterside Karori       3  2  1  0   6   3      7  66.7
Miramar Rangers       5  2  1  2   6  12     7  40.0
Marist                         5  1  2  2   7   7     5  20.0
Lower Hutt City         5  1  2  2   7  10     5  20.0
Kapiti Coast United    5  1  0  4   9  15    3  20.0
Western Suburbs       4  0  0  4   2  13    0   0.0
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Central League
 
Top 6 Goal Scorers
 
Pedro Garcia             (LH)                     8
Stu Wilson                 (Napier)              7
Mickey Malivuk          (Olympic)            7
Anthony Neonakis    (Olympic)            3
Graham Mulvey        (Miramar)            3
Wayne Rooker         (LH)                     3
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Embarrassing
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Yugoboss wrote:
Embarrassing
 
Whats embarrassing??  Im confused as to what your talking about???
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Crazy-Horse wrote:

Park Life wrote:


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Posters on Fever's forums � always the home of well-reasoned argument as regular readers will know � are divided as to whether it's the coach's fault, the committee's fault or the players' fault that they are so poor. Park Life is a blame-sharer at heart so suspects it's a little of all three.
I'm not sure there is fault in what they are doing, or if there is a fault, it perhaps really lies with the state of football in New Zealand that sees players requiring vast amounts for their services, in what is, effectively,� the third tier in the New Zealand football pyramid.I understand that the committee have decided that, instead of pumping money into the a team of itinerant� football players to come mid-table or lower in the Big Travel league, it is better to use the money to develop talent from within, and try to mold a team that want to play for Stop Out for the next few years.� This is why the have acquired a coach, not just for the first team, but someone that will really work at all levels of coaching in the club, and has security in his position.I don't know how successful they will be, but SO are at least trying something different.� The way clubs are burning money on the Central League is a disaster for the game in New Zealand IMHO.


Crazy Horse, in some ways I agree with you. I've argued for a long time that paying players beyond expenses in what are completely amateur competitions is counter productive. Especially when you see the state of the training facilities most clubs are using, it's pretty clear where some of that money could be used. Having spoken to some friends who play first division club rugby in Wellington, which is of a much higher relative standard than Travel League football, they were extremely surprised to hear of any payment as that is completely foreign to them. The expectations on them is arguably even greater than travel league football, and is close to professional. So I think there is definitely something to be said about this philosophy.

Bringing players in from overseas has lead to a general increase in the standard of football, but it's probably only of benefit when these guys commit for a decent length of time (Tim Butterfield and G from Miramar spring to mind) and have supplemented already strong sides with home grown local talent, rather than creating a side from as you call them, itinerant foreigners.

At the same time, I think Stop Out can't expect to make that kind of transition over night. Rightly or wrongly they have pursued a different recruitment policy previously and it's in my opinion disrespectful to the excellent Stop Out side which earned promotion in 2005 and more importantly, the rest of the Travel League, to play 15 year olds who are clearly not up to the task, in the first team. Dropping these players in it too early is unlikely to be good for their long term development, could see Stop Out relegated which would be disastrous and makes a mockery of having a side in the Central League. And if as Blocker suggests above that these young guys are being required to play two games in a day, it doesn't sound like this strategy has been very well thought out.james dean2008-05-04 03:41:40

Normo's coming home

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Edited.  As James Dean has suggested, this is more appropriate in the 'SO Central League Credentials' thread and I have reposted it there.


http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5278&PID=194997#194997

Crazy-Horse2008-05-04 13:04:44
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Team Taranaki         2    Stop Out              1

Nick Betheridge     1      Ross Grounsel     1
Matt Kelbrick         1
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Central League (Round 5)
 
                                    P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts   W%
Miramar Rangers         5  3  2  0  12   5     11  60.0
Olympic                        5  3  1  1  14   8    10  60.0
Petone                         5  3  1  1   7   2     10  60.0
Napier City Rovers      5  2  3  0  13   8     9  40.0
Lower Hutt City           5  2  2  1  18   8     8  40.0
Wellington United        5  2  0  3   4   7      6  40.0
Western Suburbs        5  1  2  2   7   9      5  20.0
Palm Nth Marist           5  0  4  1   7  10     4   0.0
Team Taranaki            5  1  1  3   3  10     4  20.0
Stop Out                      5  0  0  5   5  23     0   0.0
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Blocker... First of all, I never said anything to them at half-time, however when I scored yes I did make a gesture to them, bascially because I didn't say anything to them at half-time and thought it was an appropriate way to get back at them for the banter they were giving me.
 
Secondly, I played in the game you were talking about when stop-out won the league, and due to the first-team not playing that weekend we dropped 3 players down, not 8 as you say, in fact Olympic ended up disputing the result because they said we played to many first team players, but were turned down as we only played 3, which is what you are allowed to.
 
I'm not going to comment on the game you just played against them and beat them 5-0 as I didn't see the game
D_R_G2008-05-05 11:21:55
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well put.
 
also,  racist remarks ("black c***") towards our players are unaccetable and have no place in football.
 
the greeks have once again reinforced themselves as the most hated club in wellington.
 
i'm protesting by way of a kebab eating boycott.
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thebats1 wrote:
well put.
 
also,  racist remarks ("black c***") towards our players are unaccetable and have no place in football.
 
the greeks have once again reinforced themselves as the most hated club in wellington.
 
i'm protesting by way of a kebab eating boycott.
 
massive call

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