Basically a reserves side. International transfer rules mean we can't have one.
A League Expansion
Basically a reserves side. International transfer rules mean we can't have one.
TW/Nix relationship to be formalised or unnecessary to you think? What about this Malaysian youth team?
If it is Christchurch, then we could play them in the Earthquake Derby
"The Christchurch Earthquakes"? The MLS would sue the pants off us.
It would be great to have an Auckland team and a CHCHteam in the A League but I know the Aussies would not allow that to happen, even if we switched to the Asian confederation. The national league here would serve as feeder clubs so it wouldnt fold, there'd be a necessity for it.
It would be great to have an Auckland team and a CHCHteam in the A League but I know the Aussies would not allow that to happen, even if we switched to the Asian confederation. The national league here would serve as feeder clubs so it wouldnt fold, there'd be a necessity for it.
Why wouldn't Aussies want another team from NZ if that provided more income, another market for sponsors etc. Auckland is bigger than all(?) of the planned expansion markets and it has no A league franchise. Most Aussie companies consider NZ another state and treat it that way anyway. Assuming we've learnt from the Phoenix and FFA from WSW, Heart and other experiences, fom David Gallop's point of view, why not Auckland? "It didn't work before" argument doesn't wash with me.
It would be great to have an Auckland team and a CHCHteam in the A League but I know the Aussies would not allow that to happen, even if we switched to the Asian confederation. The national league here would serve as feeder clubs so it wouldnt fold, there'd be a necessity for it.
Why wouldn't Aussies want another team from NZ if that provided more income, another market for sponsors etc. Auckland is bigger than all(?) of the planned expansion markets and it has no A league franchise. Most Aussie companies consider NZ another state and treat it that way anyway. Assuming we've learnt from the Phoenix and FFA from WSW, Heart and other experiences, fom David Gallop's point of view, why not Auckland? "It didn't work before" argument doesn't wash with me.
I dont think we should consider any further A-League expansion into NZ while remaining in Oceania. It would kill the ASB Prem, and we still wouldnt have a passage through to ACL should we 'qualify'. If we move to AFC, we could then seriously consider making the A-League our national league (much like what the MLS is to Canada). Hopefully by then we would have unlocked the secret to a more financially stable model too.
It would be great to have an Auckland team and a CHCHteam in the A League but I know the Aussies would not allow that to happen, even if we switched to the Asian confederation. The national league here would serve as feeder clubs so it wouldnt fold, there'd be a necessity for it.
Why wouldn't Aussies want another team from NZ if that provided more income, another market for sponsors etc. Auckland is bigger than all(?) of the planned expansion markets and it has no A league franchise. Most Aussie companies consider NZ another state and treat it that way anyway. Assuming we've learnt from the Phoenix and FFA from WSW, Heart and other experiences, fom David Gallop's point of view, why not Auckland? "It didn't work before" argument doesn't wash with me.
Xactly. That is why the only barrier (money aside) to another A-League team in NZ is the federation membership. FFA would be delighted to have another franchise as long as it's financially sound.
To any wanker from Oz websites who said "why do we need our teams to travel to NZ every second week" I answer: because it is a shorter flight than going to Perth.
Would love for ACFC to join the A-League. Hopefully they can find some backers to make it happen.
Would be interested to find out why they still touting expansion into Asia. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Something similar: The Singapore Slingers
Fuck Yeah, Go Auckland
Would love for ACFC to join the A-League. Hopefully they can find some backers to make it happen.
They haven't asked me - yet.
interesting that the herald article has our own Gareth quoted as saying he'd be a backer of the Auckland club - odd much? He won't spend heaps of money on the nix, but he wants to spend additional cash on the a-league by getting into another franchise
interesting that the herald article has our own Gareth quoted as saying he'd be a backer of the Auckland club - odd much? He won't spend heaps of money on the nix, but he wants to spend additional cash on the a-league by getting into another franchise
interesting that the herald article has our own Gareth quoted as saying he'd be a backer of the Auckland club - odd much? He won't spend heaps of money on the nix, but he wants to spend additional cash on the a-league by getting into another franchise
In the MLS during the lean pre Beckham years one guy/organisation owned 6 clubs and another owned 3.
interesting that the herald article has our own Gareth quoted as saying he'd be a backer of the Auckland club - odd much? He won't spend heaps of money on the nix, but he wants to spend additional cash on the a-league by getting into another franchise
Didn't one guy have a stake in CCM and Sydney at one stage? Could be wrong.
Dotcoms not that rich he also has a rep for not paying ppl on time if at all
He's also a copyright thief who steals the work of artists for great profit and convicted fraudster, not to mention crass, tasteless and greedy - so no thanks!.
It would be great to have an Auckland team and a CHCHteam in the A League but I know the Aussies would not allow that to happen, even if we switched to the Asian confederation. The national league here would serve as feeder clubs so it wouldnt fold, there'd be a necessity for it.
Why wouldn't Aussies want another team from NZ if that provided more income, another market for sponsors etc. Auckland is bigger than all(?) of the planned expansion markets and it has no A league franchise. Most Aussie companies consider NZ another state and treat it that way anyway. Assuming we've learnt from the Phoenix and FFA from WSW, Heart and other experiences, fom David Gallop's point of view, why not Auckland? "It didn't work before" argument doesn't wash with me.
I dont think we should consider any further A-League expansion into NZ while remaining in Oceania. It would kill the ASB Prem, and we still wouldnt have a passage through to ACL should we 'qualify'. If we move to AFC, we could then seriously consider making the A-League our national league (much like what the MLS is to Canada). Hopefully by then we would have unlocked the secret to a more financially stable model too.
Unfortunately that would end NZ involvement in the O League and the Fifa Club World Cup. This in turn would end the infusion of O league prizemoney into the ASBP and be the end of our national league because NZF show scant interest in supporting it. We'd then end up with just two A League sides, and no domestic national league (like rugby league now with the Warriors) and all our eggs in one basket. Without the ASBP it would be a difficult pathway for local players to prove themselves as most of our latest crop of professional players have come through the ASBP. The winter club scene would hardly suffice. What say the Aussies then pulled the plug on our A League sides - we'd be left high and dry.
I favour developing the ASBP as a competitive national league (with three Auckland sides) and keeping only one team in the A League (obviously the Phoenix).
So Gareth says he'd consider investing in an Auckland A-League team. Is this more of him just saying something to stir the pot because he feels it will never happen or is he being legitimate in his interest?
This is the first person with some money coming out and saying this - any chance it could happen? Not right now but maybe in a couple of years.
Maybe he's looking for a bolthole?
Is Terry living in Auckland these days?!
Is Terry living in Auckland these days?!
Nah, still Welly but the cheques in the mail
Dotcoms not that rich he also has a rep for not paying ppl on time if at all
He's also a copyright thief who steals the work of artists for great profit and convicted fraudster, not to mention crass, tasteless and greedy - so no thanks!.
Sounds perfect. Come on in KD. Sell A-League footie to the masses via the interwebby.
Dotcoms not that rich he also has a rep for not paying ppl on time if at all
He's also a copyright thief who steals the work of artists for great profit and convicted fraudster, not to mention crass, tasteless and greedy - so no thanks!.
Getting a bit off topic, but I don't think .com has been convicted of copyright theft.
K Dotcom - first professional club owner/director to pay players and staff in bitcoins.
I note that no one talking up ACFC involvement in the A-League has mentioned that the Knights were closely tied into Wairakere United.
Same people behind the scenes and the reason why Keiran Jordan, Danny Hay, Darren Bazeley and Neil Emblin ended up there.
Keiran originally went there to stay match fit for the Knights then wasn't signed, something I've never understood as he was with out a doubt the best striker in NZ at that time. I'm sure would have helped the Knights perform as they should have in paper.
Just read this on radio nz news: possible Akl Team backed up by NZF . Only a sound bite but still.
Again, this will be the biggest thing in NZ football - ever. We've all seen that a club can work, and if there's ever a time for another club I believe it's now. Yeah I know FFA have said they don't want to expand for another couple of seasons, but I reckon with a strong enough bid their arm could be twisted. I've always interpreted their reluctance to expand as nobodies going to bother wanting to privately invest in another club, because nobody probably would... until now.
Again, this will be the biggest thing in NZ football - ever. We've all seen that a club can work, and if there's ever a time for another club I believe it's now. Yeah I know FFA have said they don't want to expand for another couple of seasons, but I reckon with a strong enough bid their arm could be twisted. I've always interpreted their reluctance to expand as nobodies going to bother wanting to privately invest in another club, because nobody probably would... until now.
Again, this will be the biggest thing in NZ football - ever. We've all seen that a club can work, and if there's ever a time for another club I believe it's now. Yeah I know FFA have said they don't want to expand for another couple of seasons, but I reckon with a strong enough bid their arm could be twisted. I've always interpreted their reluctance to expand as nobodies going to bother wanting to privately invest in another club, because nobody probably would... until now.
It would definitely be the last chance (as far as Aussie football goes anyway). I just reckon we need something big, from what I'm hearing from casual fans the games becoming a bit stagnant for them. An NZ rivalry would set up something good. ACFC fans already hate us and they aren't even in the league yet!
Kim Dotcom launches Auckland A-League bid!
(see Waitakerie Utd thread for details)
As I see it, the odds of another A League team in NZ would increase considerably if the OFC and AFC agreed to work more closely together. There's always this murmuring about the OFC WC qualifier being placed into the AFC final qualifying stage. Obviously this benefits the AFC by meaning they don't have to playoff against a CONMEBOL or CONCACAF team, and the OFC by giving their qualifier more meaningful games.
If this was to happen though, it could be part of a wider deal to allow more teams from NZ (or anywhere else in the OFC) to enter the A League - if it's ever viable and the FFA agrees. Kiwi players (or other Oceanian players, depending on the team) playing in an NZ-based team in the A League would be counted as Aussies for ACL purposes. If say, an Auckland team was formed, that would mean the player pool for domestic football would be reduced in NZ, so other clubs from the Island nations would have more chance of qualifying for the CWC too (obviously would piss off the coal face fans in NZ, but not every deal can benefit every stakeholder. I still think the net benefits would be good for NZF). OFC could even take some cut from TV rights to the AFC leg of the WC qualifying from the qualifying team in order to sweeten the deal for them.
- AFC and its member nations get any easier WC path
- OFC get a bit more money from the qualifying and its member nations get more chance of meaningful games
- NZF get a second kiwi based professional club, and potentially more meaningful international matches
- I figure the FFA would be happy with any club that can survive and get decent crowds. If that's Auckland, then I doubt they'll care
Coalface fans on both sides of the Tasman would be pissed off but oh well, they're the eggs getting broken to make this tasty omelette.
Sadly, I'm sure that there's too much vested interest from people in key positions in the OFC and AFC for this to happen. Probably other political/financial reasons why it wouldn't happen too. People from the Middle East whingeing about travelling to NZ for matches or something (even though it's not really much further than Aussie if you've already come that far)
So now Owen Glenn has walked away from the Warriors do you think he'd be interested in owning a football club?
Given that the FFA have only granted us a very short licence, I think it might be better to wait till there is some degree of certainty about US staying in the A league long term before we start talking about another NZ club?
Anyone asked Owen Glenn what he thinks about the round-ball code? Perhaps he's one of those people who think that only lesbians from the former Yugoslavia play football.
Anyone asked Owen Glenn what he thinks about the round-ball code? Perhaps he's one of those people who think that only lesbians from the former Yugoslavia play football.
Worse. his true love is .... hockey.
Is a 3rd Sydney team really going to boost people watching football in Sydney? I'm sure a third Sydney team would be successful. Say a team playing out of North Sydney Oval (lovely ground, not good for football) would ensure good crowds against both Sydney teams, the Mariners and Newcastle. However, you aren't really growing the game that way. I see he suggests a team playing at Cambelltown but the Wests Tigers hardly get any support when they play there. Canberra, Tasmania, Wollongong and North Queensland I feel would grow the game more even if their average attendance was lower.
Is a 3rd Sydney team really going to boost people watching football in Sydney? I'm sure a third Sydney team would be successful. Say a team playing out of North Sydney Oval (lovely ground, not good for football) would ensure good crowds against both Sydney teams, the Mariners and Newcastle. However, you aren't really growing the game that way. I see he suggests a team playing at Cambelltown but the Wests Tigers hardly get any support when they play there. Canberra, Tasmania, Wollongong and North Queensland I feel would grow the game more even if their average attendance was lower.
You seem to ignore enormous football support out south.
Give Wollongong a team and people south of Liverpool will support it earlier than they'd ever support Bling FC.
It's only a slow 1.5 hr drive between South Coast and Southern Sydney - short enough to call it a local fanbase.
North Sydney idea looks nice on paper but it has been done before (Northern Spirit under Arnie). Manly has more supporters.