Zuru sued Glassdoor to figure out who reviewed their workplace as toxic, proving how toxic it is.
Just because someone is wealthy doesn't excuse them for being dicks.
I'm actually surprised at how many people here just brown-nose anyone who's got a bit of money. Oh wait, Terry S was actually swindled? Well, Bob Jones said he was kind of dumb, and he's a rich man too, so that explains it, lol
And I suppose it's fine to dismiss Nick Mowbray's Twitter ranting if you're not one of the minority groups / poor people he's trying to whip up hatred against
Well feel free to fund the team with all of your money then comrade.
I genuinely wonder why you even follow professional football if you have such a problem with rich people? Genuinely, what is your angle?
Think she has a problem with assholes more than anything else and a lot of people on here are agreeing with her.
Auckland aces is the name of the cricket team, no?
Yes. Also he number doesn't exist yet (today's filings on the Aussie Trade Mark Search webby are at the number 2384550), the words only show up an old Super League filing, it isn't among the filings on that date, or listed under that owner or among the trademarks that use that address for service. And oh yeah, its not a reliable account. So I don't hold out much hope for this being true.
Correct if I'm wrong but aren't new franchises a bit more expected nowadays to involve fans in decisions regarding logos, names, colours, etc? I understand that this is nowhere near an encouraging example but isn't that what Western United did?
Would be surprised if any of that were remotely true. Looking at the account, it's a bit loose to even be calling it a parody account, purely because most of the stuff that comes out of it, in fairness, I wouldn't even call it a joke, yet we still have people somehow get sucked in by it.
Terrible logo Terrible name + already in use
I'm more interested the the Auckland Football placeholder that is over on twitter - Hell, they even have a website as a placeholder too. While nothing fancy, they don't have to get too far ahead of themselves because, well, nothings actually been announced. Graphic designers and all that nonsense will come later on down the line.
Good to see some off season life in this forum this year though. Keep it up!
There was another bid centred around former All Blacks lock Ali Williams and his partner Anna Mowbray – one of the three siblings behind the multi-billion dollar Zuru Toys empire. The others are her brothers Mat and Nick, though it is unclear whether all the Mowbray trio were involved. Messages sent to Anna and Nick on social media in recent weeks have not received replies.
While 1News reported the Williams-centric interest on Thursday as if it were still a live prospect, football sources Stuff has spoken to this week have indicated otherwise. Those sources said the focus is squarely on the Mitchell-led consortium, with some form of announcement by them imminent – and at one stage, on the cards to have taken place on Wednesday, though that obviously never happened.
Correct if I'm wrong but aren't new franchises a bit more expected nowadays to involve fans in decisions regarding logos, names, colours, etc? I understand that this is nowhere near an encouraging example but isn't that what Western United did?
Zuru sued Glassdoor to figure out who reviewed their workplace as toxic, proving how toxic it is.
Just because someone is wealthy doesn't excuse them for being dicks.
I'm actually surprised at how many people here just brown-nose anyone who's got a bit of money. Oh wait, Terry S was actually swindled? Well, Bob Jones said he was kind of dumb, and he's a rich man too, so that explains it, lol
And I suppose it's fine to dismiss Nick Mowbray's Twitter ranting if you're not one of the minority groups / poor people he's trying to whip up hatred against
Well feel free to fund the team with all of your money then comrade.
I genuinely wonder why you even follow professional football if you have such a problem with rich people? Genuinely, what is your angle?
Think she has a problem with assholes more than anything else and a lot of people on here are agreeing with her.
Very interesting to hear Senator McCarthy here saying that socialists have no place in football fandom. The forum equivalent of saying that you can't criticise society if you own an iPhone. St. Pauli and Livorno in ruins.
Oh, and yes, Agent A-League is a parody which sucks in a hell of a lot of people for some reason.
Anyway: apparently Vuksich may well be still involved The amount of effort and research put into those plans has been said to have impressed APL officials when they began reaching out to the Auckland football community earlier this year. Several sources believe the Mitchell consortium is set to benefit from that homework, with Vuksich and Sipka and potentially some of the other unidentified backers they had found in line to be involved.
It would make sense for the likes of them to be in a partnership group. Knowledge of the football landscape etc etcDoloras
Anyway: apparently Vuksich may well be still involved The amount of effort and research put into those plans has been said to have impressed APL officials when they began reaching out to the Auckland football community earlier this year. Several sources believe the Mitchell consortium is set to benefit from that homework, with Vuksich and Sipka and potentially some of the other unidentified backers they had found in line to be involved.
Any speculation about what happens re: Men's National League in respect of a future Auckland based A-League, and their (presumed) reserve teams?
Good question. Given the Weenix pass, I would think the Auckland franchise could make the same case to NZF for a slot. If I were in charge I’d probably say from the 2025 season; their ‘reserve’ side won’t be properly established with any history behind them until a season has run. Also remains to be seen how NFF view their league. As I understand it, Capital initially did not let WPX enter a side in Central league, insisting they start lower down the tree as a ‘new club’ and earn promotion, which was the driving force behind the WU and LHFC partnerships. Whether that was pressure from other clubs, lack of thought, incompetence or sheer stupidity I couldn’t say. It is possible Auckland may also partner a club in the first instance. If they don’t get an automatic spot first year or two, it is likely they’ll put players out on loan to those that do qualify.
If Vuksich is involved in this new setup, it would be *very* interesting to see how any A-League reserve team interacts with ACFC.
But as to how NRF see their league... there was huge drama earlier this year when they initially rejected Central United joining because they're basically the same club as ACFC, but then were forcibly overturned by the tribunal.
My God, if they're really talking about "waterfront stadium" again, I defy anyone to try to argue that all these rich people must know what they're talking about :D
I mean the only reason the waterfront stadium hasn't happened is simply a lack of $$$. It is actually a fantastic idea and would really make Auckland awesome
It could be that I don't know what I'm talking about, lol
Hmmmm : Request for Expression of Interest (REOI) for Akl Main Stadium.
'We are looking for main stadium proposals that will provide the vision for a future-proof multi-purpose stadium that will increase the economic benefits alongside what is best for all Aucklanders.' pic.twitter.com/xY0u0GpOSA
IMHO the best idea (on the surface anyway) a few years ago was a developer offering to build a new downturn stadium, in exchange for getting the land that Eden Park sits on to build housing.
So you get added housing stock in Auckland in a great location with excellent public transport systems, plus a shiny new downtown purpose bult rectangular stadium.
I think the idea was that like BC Place in Vancouver the lower tier aisles could push forward to create a good atmosphere for smaller crowds, then those aisles push back when you open up the upper aisles for the bigger capacity games - ABs tests, Kiwis tests, Blues or Warriors finals etc. Music concerts & other events I guess.
Anyway at first glance it all seemed a reasonable idea. Helen Clark should be a fan!
Now you have a proposed new Auckland ALM club seemingly reopening the whole debate of Auckland's stadia.
I wonder if plans (used very loosely) for an A-league stadium and a new national stadium will coexist or get rolled into one. Hard not to think that maybe the idea of a 'soccer-specific' stadium is just a bit too foreign for us and our pockets. Ultimately it depends on how much private money is waiting in the wings I suppose.
The dilemma is whether you build a giant national stadium to replace eden park or a more fit for purpose 25k stadium for club rugby and football. I'd prefer the latter, but this is NZ.
The dilemma is whether you build a giant national stadium to replace eden park or a more fit for purpose 25k stadium for club rugby and football. I'd prefer the latter, but this is NZ.
If Eden Park - basically NZ's national stadium in by far it's biggest city - got bowled, you have to replace it with a new 50,000-60,000 seater downtown stadium.
BC Place in Vancouver offers a great template of what could be possible. How you pay for something likely very expensive? Just a little problem to overcome.
Aside from football and international rugby, BC Place has also become synonymous with soccer at both the club and national team levels. The Whitecaps were original tenants, alongside the Lions, back in the early 1980s, when they competed in the first iteration of the now-defunct North American Soccer League (NASL). The team featured in the first major sporting event held there in 1983, a match against the Seattle Sounders that drew over 60,000 spectators, before folding a year later along with the NASL itself.
Some 25 years later, the Whitecaps got their pass back into the big leagues when Vancouver was awarded an MLS expansion franchise in 2009. Around that time, a group of investors had been exploring the possibility of building a new 20,000-seater stadium on the city’s waterfront, but when PavCo came calling with an offer to play at a soon-to-be-renovated BC Place, those plans were shelved.
The outsized stadium was by no means a ready-made home for the Whitecaps, however. Prior to moving in, the club’s ownership negotiated a provision for PavCo to include retractable pitch-level seating at each end of the field as part of their renovation, bringing fans closer to the action. It was also agreed that a system of sail-like drapes should be installed to cordon off the upper bowl, creating a more intimate setting tailored for MLS.
“We needed to ensure the building was capable of providing a cosy atmosphere,” recalls Bob Lenarduzzi, the Whitecaps president who has been involved with the club for four decades, firstly as a player, then as a coach, general manager and director of soccer operations. “We’ve probably done better than we expected, and the capacity is there for future growth if we can continue to grow the season ticket memberships. There is massive potential there.”
There are not many stadiums like that – that are in a downtown core, are very accessible from a transit perspective, great for our athletes. They’re in the heart of the city and Vancouver is such a world class city.
Having succeeded in attracting the Whitecaps, who currently average just under 22,000 fans for each home game, PavCo has since set its sights on bigger prizes in soccer. Spurred by the success of staging a total of nine matches during the 2015 Women’s World Cup – an event that followed their hosting of the Concacaf Women's Olympic Qualifying Tournament in early 2012 – the operators are now in the process of bidding for the right to stage matches during the men’s edition in 2026.
Would there ever be any pressure from the A-League itself to build a football-purposed stadium, especially given how obvious the success of soccer-specific stadiums in the MLS is? I might be getting my facts mixed up but wasn't Western United given a license on the condition that they would build their own stadium?
The dilemma is whether you build a giant national stadium to replace eden park or a more fit for purpose 25k stadium for club rugby and football. I'd prefer the latter, but this is NZ.
dont forget cricket, Eden park is still used for international games, so a new stadium would probably need to cater for football, rugby, league and cricket, unless you want multiple stadia?
The dilemma is whether you build a giant national stadium to replace eden park or a more fit for purpose 25k stadium for club rugby and football. I'd prefer the latter, but this is NZ.
dont forget cricket, Eden park is still used for international games, so a new stadium would probably need to cater for football, rugby, league and cricket, unless you want multiple stadia?
In an ideal world, Rugby/League/Football play at Eden Park/New Stadium, Speedway moves to Mt Smart & Cricket moves to Western Springs.
Saying this as a non Aucklander but I reckon they should aim for a 23-25k seat stadium in the CBD & keep Eden Park for the special occasions. Dunno how financially viable Eden Park would be then tho.
I still don't think this is a goer, because centre-city dwellers are going to go absolutely ballistic about the Council handing over possible public space on our waterfront for a stadium when "Code" Brown has spent his entire term explaining how we have to cut services and sell airport shares because we're broke
The dilemma is whether you build a giant national stadium to replace eden park or a more fit for purpose 25k stadium for club rugby and football. I'd prefer the latter, but this is NZ.
dont forget cricket, Eden park is still used for international games, so a new stadium would probably need to cater for football, rugby, league and cricket, unless you want multiple stadia?
Any new Waterfront stadium would need Govt and Auckland Council support. That means Auckland Council working out a solution for all it's stadiums and sport as a group. Council has been debating this already now for a number of years.
A redeveloped Western Springs has been suggested as a new home for Auckland cricket. Blind Freddie can see it would be a huge mistake to make any new Auckland stadium a fixed oval okay the ROF. However retractable pitches again aka like BC Place, that bring the lower tiers in closer to the action creating a sideline rectangle feel, maybe a solution. That might mean you have a big enough oval for cricket ODIs/T20s when those retractable seats are pushed back. EP doesn't host test cricket any longer. I guess the Canucks don't have to deal with the problem of cricket. They don't really even play baseball.
Would there ever be any pressure from the A-League itself to build a football-purposed stadium, especially given how obvious the success of soccer-specific stadiums in the MLS is? I might be getting my facts mixed up but wasn't Western United given a license on the condition that they would build their own stadium?
I think you are right re WU. But they were a new team in a city already with 2 teams. I think the idea of a new shiny stadium out in Western Melbourne, was to help the team carve out it's own supporter base & identity. Plus everyone loves visiting a shiny new edifice the first few years. Remember the Super Rugby crowds at the ROF first few years after it was built.
I think the APL would just be ecstatic to get a $10M plus licence fee off the new Auckland & Canberra owners without budening them with extra costs.
One of the main issues is that sport is two hours. Then at other times there is a stadium blocking views and access. Most proposals for the waterfront are free range park things. It’s a hard sell.
Also Eden Park has fought fairly well for its own existence, (even though it’s subsidised tf )and it’s got rugby cricket and the heritage angle. Cricket don’t wanna move really. And good luck getting stock cars outa Western Springs! It’d be a crime to just give the land away.
Oh and Six 60.
I’d love a little twenty k seater for rugby and soccer somewhere. Think it’s unlikely league is guna be prised away from Mt Smart (Eden Park).
But then you got issues of where and for who? The Warriors have got a bite of a South identity with Mt Smart. Breakers a touch of the Shore. Rugby and cricket struggle these days with their identity.
I’ve always thought this is where an Akl team struggles. To get fired up and more importantly survive through periods of poor results it needs to be associated a smaller area of Akl, like that core of Wellington for the Nix, on behalf of a wider Auckland. Or for the Nix, people coming in from further afield.
A pan Auckland identity will be okay as long as they’re winning, but it needs something a little more parochial to dig in, imo. Which has been what I’ve said to previous iterations of this thread.
I can’t stand the Auckland Theatre company’s new waterfront theatre. You come out at night into a cold, windy dark car park. Out of the Maidment you were in the middle of the city and it’s history- the army barracks, Albert Park… I think any Waterfront stadium suffers in comparison to Eden Park too imo- after a game a lot of town is dead air…
I prefer a UK model of a stadium through a house a k a Luton compared to the US model of it two hours away in a dead zone without any human context. Football’s a thing cos people play and watch it!
Forget the whitecaps, BC Place is currently hosting a Beyoncé concert this very evening. If it’s good enough for her it’s good enough for me.
Apparently it holds 240 events per year. From garden shows to Whitecaps games. Beauty of being in a downtown area away from the Helen Clarks of this world.
