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Feverish wrote:
coochiee wrote:
Feverish wrote:
coochiee wrote:

What is really disappointing is that (according to Dome anyway) NZF have been a major obstacle to this whole project. Too worried about protecting the women's regional federations, and NZ women's national league - which obviously would be weakened if 20 of the best young players were in Australia at the same time as the national women's league. All sounds very short sighted, political BS by NZF. 

I don't remember him saying that? 

From 44 mins.

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwhite/episodes/2019-06-27T03_29_32-07_00

Sorry my bad partly. 

Sounds like NZF pushing back on a Nix National Women's League team, which would then evolve into a W League team. Totally funded by Welnix

so completely different. good one

No not all. Have you even listened to the podcast?

Sounds like plan is will be a young NWL team (like Weenix in the Handy Prem), that they then want to evolve into a W League team (within 2 years). 

But NZF are placing "roadblocks" in the way. Patrick's words I think.

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coochiee wrote:

Feverish wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Feverish wrote:

coochiee wrote:

What is really disappointing is that (according to Dome anyway) NZF have been a major obstacle to this whole project. Too worried about protecting the women's regional federations, and NZ women's national league - which obviously would be weakened if 20 of the best young players were in Australia at the same time as the national women's league. All sounds very short sighted, political BS by NZF. 

I don't remember him saying that? 

From 44 mins.

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwhite/episodes/2019-06-27T03_29_32-07_00

Sorry my bad partly. 

Sounds like NZF pushing back on a Nix National Women's League team, which would then evolve into a W League team. Totally funded by Welnix

so completely different. good one

No not all. Have you even listened to the podcast?

Sounds like plan is will be a young NWL team (like Weenix in the Handy Prem), that they then want to evolve into a W League team (within 2 years). 

But NZF are placing "roadblocks" in the way. Patrick's words I think.

Course I listended- but your paraphrasing/ long bows is making NZF sound like bigger Twits than they potentially are

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Dome sounded hugely frustrated with NZF over this issue, and I think Patrick was alluding to some other criticism directed at NZF about this via Twitter or something.

Anyway hopefully the petty political issues can be put aside. The girls/women's game badly needs the country's best young female players, getting into virtual full time quality training academies, like Weenix and Ole. Esp if the Nix can then launch a W League team off that.

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Sauce

The New Leagues Working Group has come back with an historic deal that will see the clubs take ownership of the A-League, W-League and Y-League.

A final date of August 1 has been set to draw up the legal paperwork to finalise the deal, but the agreements are now in place for the new set up to kick in in time for this season.

The new spin-off leagues body will take total control of the top tier leagues, with the FFA receiving a licence fee equal to 1.125x what the new league body gives to each club, which will effectively be $4.25m in the first year.

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Saiuce

The Phoenix, whose A-League licence was set to expire at the end of next season, will now effectively become co-owners of the competition under the fresh governance model.

The model had been hotly debated by the FFA and club chiefs but will now be settled by August 1 this year.

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And we have teams clambering to be part of the 2nd tier

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Blew.2 wrote:
West Adelaide the sole SA club set to bid for a place in soccer’s proposed national second divisionA lone SA soccer club is leading the charge for a place in a proposed national second division as the state’s other top flight sides baulk at prohibitive costs and tight time frames. Former National Soccer League champion West Adelaide welcomed Football Federation Australia’s white paper on a potential second tier, earmarked to kick-off in 2021/22.West was confident of raising $2 million to fund an initial operating budget and would apply for a berth in the new competition when expressions of interest opened next year.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-adelaide-the-sole-sa-club-set-to-bid-for-a-place-in-soccers-proposed-national-second-division-ng-7f4afe72ef67a64aa220d556d5d6272a

full pasted article is on Reddit here https://www.reddit.com/r/Aleague/comments/c924rl/west_adelaide_the_sole_sa_club_set_to_bid_for_a/

  And they say they have fully funded teams clambering for the 2nd tier slots
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It's an interesting development. Would there be more "profit" in West Adelaide not competing with the Reds, and perhaps even have a cooperation going, or would there be more benefit in having West Adelaide in the A League and benefit from a home derby competitive rivalry?

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Mainland FC wrote:

It's an interesting development. Would there be more "profit" in West Adelaide not competing with the Reds, and perhaps even have a cooperation going, or would there be more benefit in having West Adelaide in the A League and benefit from a home derby competitive rivalry?

Adelaide United wouldn't see that as a rivalry, West Adelaide would.

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https://caldronpool.com/human-rights-commission-guidelines-introduce-transgender-quotas-in-sports/
4th July 2019

"Further, these guidelines have been endorsed by David Gallop, the Chairman of the Coalition of Major Profession and Participation Sports (COMPPS) which is made up of the following member organisations:

  • Australian Football League
  • Cricket Australia
  • Football Federation Australia
  • National Rugby League
  • Netball Australia
  • Rugby Australia
  • Tennis Australia
LG
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When are sports organizations in Australia going to wake up to the likes of Gallop. The NRL and The A League have paid the price and still he gets gigs.

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Meh - he's on the outside looking in and making comments.

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

Meh - he's on the outside looking in and making comments.

Misread the headline :-(
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RR wrote:

As an Australian of Greek descent I'm happy they're respecting the cultural foundations now but at the same time this feels like it's sending the game backwards again. Sydney United 58 have already put out the poll whether they should change their name to Sydney Croatia and the comments are mixed. Aussies would want to support Sydney United (with branding harking back to it's "Croatia" days), whereas do you think the simple Australian would choose Sydney Croatia? 

Melbourne Knights = Melbourne Croatia

Adelaide Raiders = Adelaide Croatia

West Adelaide/South Melbourne Hellas

Preston Lions = Preston Makedonija (as much as that name irks me to write out).

We're going to have problems in that second division, and the teams who stick with their generic names will get in.

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I thought the whole point of the A League was to get football away from the cultural disagreements that were marring games with fans being stupidly involved in racial issues. Croatians, Serbians, Greeks, Italians. It was  very detrimental to the game. Until WSW and the Victory fans started to let it resurface, the A League had been well away from it. And that is a good thing. Heritage, is a nice thing when it is under control. Pride and passion, but not when it brings the game and fans into disrepute.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

I thought the whole point of the A League was to get football away from the cultural disagreements that were marring games with fans being stupidly involved in racial issues. Croatians, Serbians, Greeks, Italians. It was  very detrimental to the game. Until WSW and the Victory fans started to let it resurface, the A League had been well away from it. And that is a good thing. Heritage, is a nice thing when it is under control. Pride and passion, but not when it brings the game and fans into disrepute.


Hence changing the names to more inclusive one was a sensible move
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Lonegunmen wrote:

I thought the whole point of the A League was to get football away from the cultural disagreements that were marring games with fans being stupidly involved in racial issues. Croatians, Serbians, Greeks, Italians. It was  very detrimental to the game. Until WSW and the Victory fans started to let it resurface, the A League had been well away from it. And that is a good thing. Heritage, is a nice thing when it is under control. Pride and passion, but not when it brings the game and fans into disrepute.


Hence changing the names to more inclusive one was a sensible move

We may not see the Name changes but IMHO we will see the crests and small back flags showing the historic base of the clubs.
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Can't see a downside in that! 

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WeeNix
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Great news.   "What goes around comes around" 

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No room for squatters on the new FFA board.

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Bet he gets a massive golden handshake,  when what he should be getting is a big golden shower.

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So the ol' Nix have outlasted Gallop, Lowry(?) and FFA's control of the A-League. How the tables have turned. Cya 

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Jaickin wrote:

So the ol' Nix have outlasted Gallop, Lowry(?) and FFA's control of the A-League. How the tables have turned. Cya 

To be honest Nix are still under the current licence agreement and will be until the league changes hands which wont be until the next TV deal. So the Nix can still get the boot for not meeting metrics. 
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Royz wrote:

Jaickin wrote:

So the ol' Nix have outlasted Gallop, Lowry(?) and FFA's control of the A-League. How the tables have turned. Cya 

To be honest Nix are still under the current licence agreement and will be until the league changes hands which wont be until the next TV deal. So the Nix can still get the boot for not meeting metrics. 


Its time we got rid of the metric system
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Cricket Australia needs Gallop, NOW

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Blew.2 wrote:

Cricket Australia needs Gallop, NOW

 A most excellent idea/suggestion.

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Royz wrote:

Jaickin wrote:

So the ol' Nix have outlasted Gallop, Lowry(?) and FFA's control of the A-League. How the tables have turned. Cya 

To be honest Nix are still under the current licence agreement and will be until the league changes hands which wont be until the next TV deal. So the Nix can still get the boot for not meeting metrics. 


Its time we got rid of the metric system

don't give them an inch

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FFA seeks 'football person' to replace Gallop as chief executive


DOMINIC BOSSI JULY 12, 2019
Having previously looked towards rival codes for its leaders, board sources have suggested there is consensus to hire a new leader with skin in the game and already several candidates have been linked with the vacant post at the top of Australian football. The Herald understands Sydney FC chief Danny Townsend, PFA chief John Didulica, former Socceroo and SBS presenter Craig Foster, Football Federation Victoria chief Peter Filopoulos and FFA chief operating officer Mark Falvo have already been marked as potential candidates. It is understood no applications have been submitted for the role.

Several other names could be added to that preliminary list in the coming weeks once the process to find a new chief formally kicks off with the FFA board seeking the assistance of a recruitment firm to help find Gallop's replacement.

The role of the chief will be in stark contrast to that held by Gallop for the past seven years with the A-League becoming independent of FFA. Instead of overseeing a major domestic competition, the next chief will have a greater emphasis on government relations.

It is understood the board is seeking a candidate with a football "evangelist" streak with a strong commercial background, management skills and a strong knowledge of the game. Experience working with government will be an added bonus with FFA bidding to host the 2023 Women's World Cup and lobbying for increased funding for grassroots facilities.

With the focus shifting away from the A-League, FFA's objectives will now centre around the national teams, grassroots football, relations with state member federations and regional engagement with the Asian Football Confederation and ASEAN nations. It means a great level of diplomacy will be required from the next chief, especially at a time when the relationships between stakeholders remain somewhat fractured in the wake of the two-year power struggle for football's governance that led to former chairman Steven Lowy stepping down.

The next chief will have to make some tough calls on the senior management team with sources suggesting there will likely be other changes to FFA's senior management team after Gallop's resignation. It is understood a number of positions will be up for review following the appointment of a new chief executive which will likely coincide with a significant restructure of the organisation, redefining roles and objectives.

One change that appears to be certain already is the position of A-League chief Greg O'Rourke. With the A-League to become independently operated, he will no longer be required by FFA and is set to take up a position as leader of the new entity governing the competition. There are five other positions within the senior management. Alongside Falvo, Luke Bould is the chief commercial officer, Luke Casserly is the head of national teams, Emma Highwood is the head of community, women's football and football development abd Tim Holden is the head of legal and business affairs.

Sauce :  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-seeks-football-person-to-replace-gallop-as-chief-executive-20190712-p526qj.html

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Top Female Exec leaves FFA

"As head of women's football, it was Highwood who implemented the review process that eventually led Gallop and the FFA board to terminate Stajcic's reign and its subsequent shambolic handling.

However Highwood avoided the spotlight over the Stajcic row and insisted she was not responsible for the running of the Matildas, passing the buck to the FFA's head of high performance, Luke Casserly."

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Rats leaving a sinking ship? Australian fair play coming to the fore.

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Football Federation Australia and A-League clubs are considering scrapping the National Youth League and replacing it with a reserves competition in an attempt to improve player pathways in club football.

A proposal has been put forward to the clubs and organisations in recent weeks that will see the eight-game NYL scrapped in favour of an Under-23s reserves competition that will operate alongside the A-League between October and May.

The league consists of a maximum of 10 matches for teams who reach the grand final and critics - the competition is regarded as a waste of money by several clubs - point to a lack of game time provided to the most talented youngsters in Australia.

In its place, an under-23 reserve league, which could consist of as many as 20 games before finals, could be introduced to bridge the gap between youth academies and the A-League. While still at the blueprint stage, the proposed competition would also allow for three over-age players to be included for each team to assist senior players struggling for match fitness. Initially it will only be open to A-League clubs, but future plans would allow for expansion hopefuls and aspirational state league teams to enter the competition.

The rationale hinges on having as many young players as possible exposed to the demands of professional training workloads. Under the current system, youngsters take part in the eight-game NYL before breaking, then resuming training for their participation in the state-based National Premier League systems.

There are concerns the standard of football for many A-League youth teams isn't conducive to development. Victoria and NSW are the nation's two strongest state competitions and only Sydney FC's youth team competes in the top division of its respective NPL. Perth Glory, Newcastle Jets, Brisbane Roar and Adelaide United all have youth teams in their respective top state divisions.

Australia is at risk of falling behind regional rivals in player development, largely due to the lack of match opportunities for players between the ages of 18 to 23. The 11-team A-League has only 26 games, some 12 fewer than in countries such as Korea and no professional second division for players to progress through.

more on...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-a-league-clubs-consider-scrapping-national-youth-league-20190726-p52b72.html

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Blew.2 wrote:

Football Federation Australia and A-League clubs are considering scrapping the National Youth League and replacing it with a reserves competition in an attempt to improve player pathways in club football.

A proposal has been put forward to the clubs and organisations in recent weeks that will see the eight-game NYL scrapped in favour of an Under-23s reserves competition that will operate alongside the A-League between October and May.

The league consists of a maximum of 10 matches for teams who reach the grand final and critics - the competition is regarded as a waste of money by several clubs - point to a lack of game time provided to the most talented youngsters in Australia.

In its place, an under-23 reserve league, which could consist of as many as 20 games before finals, could be introduced to bridge the gap between youth academies and the A-League. While still at the blueprint stage, the proposed competition would also allow for three over-age players to be included for each team to assist senior players struggling for match fitness. Initially it will only be open to A-League clubs, but future plans would allow for expansion hopefuls and aspirational state league teams to enter the competition.

The rationale hinges on having as many young players as possible exposed to the demands of professional training workloads. Under the current system, youngsters take part in the eight-game NYL before breaking, then resuming training for their participation in the state-based National Premier League systems.

There are concerns the standard of football for many A-League youth teams isn't conducive to development. Victoria and NSW are the nation's two strongest state competitions and only Sydney FC's youth team competes in the top division of its respective NPL. Perth Glory, Newcastle Jets, Brisbane Roar and Adelaide United all have youth teams in their respective top state divisions.

Australia is at risk of falling behind regional rivals in player development, largely due to the lack of match opportunities for players between the ages of 18 to 23. The 11-team A-League has only 26 games, some 12 fewer than in countries such as Korea and no professional second division for players to progress through.

more on...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-a-league-clubs-consider-scrapping-national-youth-league-20190726-p52b72.html

Will WeeNix play in this new reserve comp? Or continue playing in the local league.
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Royz wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Football Federation Australia and A-League clubs are considering scrapping the National Youth League and replacing it with a reserves competition in an attempt to improve player pathways in club football.

A proposal has been put forward to the clubs and organisations in recent weeks that will see the eight-game NYL scrapped in favour of an Under-23s reserves competition that will operate alongside the A-League between October and May.

The league consists of a maximum of 10 matches for teams who reach the grand final and critics - the competition is regarded as a waste of money by several clubs - point to a lack of game time provided to the most talented youngsters in Australia.

In its place, an under-23 reserve league, which could consist of as many as 20 games before finals, could be introduced to bridge the gap between youth academies and the A-League. While still at the blueprint stage, the proposed competition would also allow for three over-age players to be included for each team to assist senior players struggling for match fitness. Initially it will only be open to A-League clubs, but future plans would allow for expansion hopefuls and aspirational state league teams to enter the competition.

The rationale hinges on having as many young players as possible exposed to the demands of professional training workloads. Under the current system, youngsters take part in the eight-game NYL before breaking, then resuming training for their participation in the state-based National Premier League systems.

There are concerns the standard of football for many A-League youth teams isn't conducive to development. Victoria and NSW are the nation's two strongest state competitions and only Sydney FC's youth team competes in the top division of its respective NPL. Perth Glory, Newcastle Jets, Brisbane Roar and Adelaide United all have youth teams in their respective top state divisions.

Australia is at risk of falling behind regional rivals in player development, largely due to the lack of match opportunities for players between the ages of 18 to 23. The 11-team A-League has only 26 games, some 12 fewer than in countries such as Korea and no professional second division for players to progress through.

more on...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-a-league-clubs-consider-scrapping-national-youth-league-20190726-p52b72.html

Will WeeNix play in this new reserve comp? Or continue playing in the local league.

Although an interesting concept, I'd say it'd probably the latter. Would imagine the $$$ that would have to be put up to have a reserve side fly across and Tasman every couple of weeks as well as accommodation etc would be too much of a burden for Welnix to accept. 

Could be a better proposition for us if they aligned the reserve competition with the A-League schedule and have the games as 'curtain raisers' - I don't think they currently do this through the NYL, although I haven't looked into it purely because the NYL setup is actually a bit of a joke and doesn't particularly warrant me wasting my time on it.

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YoungHeart wrote:

Royz wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Football Federation Australia and A-League clubs are considering scrapping the National Youth League and replacing it with a reserves competition in an attempt to improve player pathways in club football.

A proposal has been put forward to the clubs and organisations in recent weeks that will see the eight-game NYL scrapped in favour of an Under-23s reserves competition that will operate alongside the A-League between October and May.

The league consists of a maximum of 10 matches for teams who reach the grand final and critics - the competition is regarded as a waste of money by several clubs - point to a lack of game time provided to the most talented youngsters in Australia.

In its place, an under-23 reserve league, which could consist of as many as 20 games before finals, could be introduced to bridge the gap between youth academies and the A-League. While still at the blueprint stage, the proposed competition would also allow for three over-age players to be included for each team to assist senior players struggling for match fitness. Initially it will only be open to A-League clubs, but future plans would allow for expansion hopefuls and aspirational state league teams to enter the competition.

The rationale hinges on having as many young players as possible exposed to the demands of professional training workloads. Under the current system, youngsters take part in the eight-game NYL before breaking, then resuming training for their participation in the state-based National Premier League systems.

There are concerns the standard of football for many A-League youth teams isn't conducive to development. Victoria and NSW are the nation's two strongest state competitions and only Sydney FC's youth team competes in the top division of its respective NPL. Perth Glory, Newcastle Jets, Brisbane Roar and Adelaide United all have youth teams in their respective top state divisions.

Australia is at risk of falling behind regional rivals in player development, largely due to the lack of match opportunities for players between the ages of 18 to 23. The 11-team A-League has only 26 games, some 12 fewer than in countries such as Korea and no professional second division for players to progress through.

more on...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-a-league-clubs-consider-scrapping-national-youth-league-20190726-p52b72.html

Will WeeNix play in this new reserve comp? Or continue playing in the local league.

Although an interesting concept, I'd say it'd probably the latter. Would imagine the $$$ that would have to be put up to have a reserve side fly across and Tasman every couple of weeks as well as accommodation etc would be too much of a burden for Welnix to accept. 

Could be a better proposition for us if they aligned the reserve competition with the A-League schedule and have the games as 'curtain raisers' - I don't think they currently do this through the NYL, although I haven't looked into it purely because the NYL setup is actually a bit of a joke and doesn't particularly warrant me wasting my time on it.

Would be good if Nix could negotiate with NZF to be able to play U23 players for the Wenix next season. Considering the young squad and getting game time for fringe first team players. Be good for the Nix and would certainly make the Wenix a bit more competitive in the Handi.

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