Straya - A-League and State Leagues

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over 10 years ago

That kind of hypocrisy happens everywhere. This season in Scotland, a Partick Thistle player was banned for breaching SFA betting rules which state that players, coaches and club officials are banned from betting on any football match anywhere in the World. That's all fair enough, but a week or so after the ban had been handed down, the SFA announced that from 2016 the new sponsor of the SPFL will be Ladbrokes. Which just happens to be a betting company!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

over 10 years ago

This is rediculous... because I play in the 8th Division in NSW I cant bet on the A-league.... Clearly my participation gives me great knowledge into the outcome of games

over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Robbie Hooker.  ex-Kingz as well.

He has gone up in the world then, now playing over 35's in Sydney

over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

sthn.jeff wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Robbie Hooker.  ex-Kingz as well.

He has gone up in the world then, now playing over 35's in Sydney

for...

sweet.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

May be putting my tin foil hat on a bit here, but:

It's interesting that he has claimed the TAB has owed him $600k in the past. He's right to question why they've solely gone after him specifically. Once again, it's almost as if the FFA are making decisions based on their relationship with the betting agencies, - who actually runs the game in Australia? Because it sure seems like it is these betting agencies making these decisions. 

Betting agencies - determine where teams finish in the table (Perth 7th), are seemingly heavily involved in sanctioning registered players.

Fox Sports - determines the leagues fixtures list. 

FFA - Do they even have any control over the league at all?


Allegedly

over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Good ol' fashioned pay dispute rumbling on in the background:

 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/26/ff...

Question though - at the moment the FFA TV deal money covers the salary cap for every club, right? If the salary cap was increased, would the money from the FFA to cover it also increase? If so, no problem. If not, it's pretty obvious that's only going to make certain clubs' financial situations worse.

The article isn't really clear about that and to me that's a key point.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

over 10 years ago

The other issue is that the salary cap is entirely covered by the TV deal, yet some clubs (CCM/Roar) are managing to not pay their players on time. So if FFA increase the cap and still cover the whole thing, what's to say that the clubs won't abuse that money like they have been doing so far?


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

over 10 years ago

The simple answer would be for the TV deal money to be paid directly as player's salaries. It might get complicated with marquees but all non-marquee players would then at least have certainty about getting paid regardless of the dickishness of their club's owner.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

over 10 years ago

Josh Kennedy retired.

a.haak

over 10 years ago

The simple answer would be for the TV deal money to be paid directly as player's salaries. It might get complicated with marquees but all non-marquee players would then at least have certainty about getting paid regardless of the dickishness of their club's owner.

If the FFA pay the players directly, wont that mean they are effectively contracting the players? Means they would be liable for their contracts, something the FFA wants to avoid.
over 10 years ago

The simple answer would be for the TV deal money to be paid directly as player's salaries. It might get complicated with marquees but all non-marquee players would then at least have certainty about getting paid regardless of the dickishness of their club's owner.

If the FFA pay the players directly, wont that mean they are effectively contracting the players? Means they would be liable for their contracts, something the FFA wants to avoid.

I don't know how the technicalities of the accounting would work, but could you not just give the money to the clubs with the restriction that it can only be spent on player salaries? Plenty of grants to organisations are for specific purposes already aren't they? 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

over 10 years ago

One of the problems that clubs have is if they fall behind in theit tax bills then the Australian government takes it straight from the sallary cap money as it arives. The FFA has also been known to withold part of it if a club isn't behaving properly.

The rules also stipulate something like you only have to spend 85% of the salary cap, so clubs use the rest of the grant money for admin costs.

over 10 years ago
Harry kewell's incentives to play for Citeh are celery on steroids. See the SMH story on kewell and fiat Chrysler boss Clyde Campbell.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

over 10 years ago

Global Game wrote:
Harry kewell's incentives to play for Citeh are celery on steroids. See the SMH story on kewell and fiat Chrysler boss Clyde Campbell.

Classic FFA mind you. Everyone knew it was dodgy at the time, now the owners have changed an investigation will find evidence of that but won't have a Heart to prosecute.

How's my driving? - Whine here

over 10 years ago

More re: Betting

over 10 years ago
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/adelaide-united-sees-red-over-union-cash-demands/story-fnii0g1e-1227429568670

ADELAIDE United’s blockbuster friendly against Liverpool FC stands to be its last following conflict with the players union that also threatens to decimate the club’s 2015-16 title assault.

United asserts The Professional Football Association is demanding a combined $312,500 in additional wages for high profile games against La Liga side Villarreal and the July 20 Liverpool clash at Adelaide Oval.

over 10 years ago

but yeah, the players union has the growth of the game at heart.....


Allegedly

over 10 years ago

I would have expected that one of the things which the standard player salary would reimburse them for would be their particpation in freindly matches. How ignorant I was. I wonder how much money the Phoenix players are demanding as compensation to paly against a Central League XI?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

over 10 years ago

This seasons ball

over 10 years ago

Sexy....


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

over 10 years ago

Oh. Good. Lord.

Grumpy old bastard alert

over 10 years ago

seems unfair that Brisbane could camouflage the ball by standing near it


Allegedly

over 10 years ago

According to 442, Tony Popovic is the 45th best coach in the world for 2015. 

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-5...

Here are his scores:

Style: 3/5 

Quotability: 3/5

Aggro: 4/5

Transfer: 3/5

Man management: 4/5

I think the authors needs a lie down.

over 10 years ago

This seasons ball

it looks...heavy (on TV) 

Wonder what it looks like flying at you. Surely the black's no-good for visibility. Like the green and half-blue ones (two different) that Lotto throws out.

Everyone should be using Campionatos. Or Mitre Ultimaxx

over 10 years ago
over 10 years ago

SOME of the A-League’s brightest young stars could miss more than a quarter of the upcoming season under plans being drawn up to aid Australia’s bid to qualify for the 2016 Olympics.

Players including Terry Antonis, Corey Gameiro, Connor Pain and Jamie Maclaren are likely to be affected by the timetable mapped out by Olyroos coach Aurelio Vidmar, ahead of the Olympics qualifying tournament next January.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/olyroos-could-miss-up-to-one-quarter-of-a-league-season-under-stringent-timetable/story-fnk6pqot-1227453098199
over 10 years ago

Lucky we're disqualified, the boot will be on the other foot.

over 10 years ago

A-League club Melbourne City will stream real time data and statistics from GPS tracking devices to fans during matches in the upcoming 2015-16 season.
http://www.afr.com/business/sport/game-data-to-stream-live-for-melbourne-city-football-fans-20150725-giit15

Shame this wasn't around previously, Patrick could have coded a 'Where on the pitch is Tim Brown?' feature into the YFApp

I get that you were (probably) joking... but I can forsee someone somewhere wanting to use this to judge offsides sooner or later. Imagine Fox Sports getting it in their heads that they could live plot where everyone was, and ignoring the technical advice that GPS is only accurate to within however many metres etc, and then using the telemetry to put a "Fox Sports Offside Line (TM)" on the screen.

I can even see them reading the technical feedback and someone in a meeting saying: "So? We never get the offside line in the right place anyway, so what does this matter? Just do it Neville."


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

over 10 years ago

GPS is pretty much useless for offside because it has no idea where the legs and head are, it only knows where the GPS device itself is. So even if Fox wanted to use it, they would work out pretty quickly that it's useless and that a normal replay is more useful.

Whether they decide to ditch the tech at that stage or use it anyway is a different story though...


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

over 10 years ago

Masty wrote:

This seasons ball

it looks...heavy (on TV) 

Wonder what it looks like flying at you. Surely the black's no-good for visibility. Like the green and half-blue ones (two different) that Lotto throws out.

Everyone should be using Campionatos. Or Mitre Ultimaxx

Tweet the other day froM Danny Vuka saying it was light, and taking some getting used to in the flight.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

over 10 years ago

standard new-ball complaint.

He wants to try working with an over-inflated $20 job in 30 year-old floodlights on a Tuesday in July from 6 yards!

over 10 years ago

Genius:


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

over 10 years ago

Any ball that has colour on it is horrid - if Brisbane could pull a croud then half the ball would blend into the background.

a.haak

over 10 years ago
over 10 years ago

SFC, WSW, CCM, NEW & AIS in one conference, MVC, MCY, BRI, ADL, PER in the other.

over 10 years ago

That gives us a bit more of a competitive advantage

You know we belong together...