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RR

Sounds like brinkmanship negotiation to drive up the price…


over 2 years ago
Terrible news if true. Also, doesn't matter if it's not in place by Round 1. There have occasionally been games without VAR for one reason or another.
Get it in ASAP and go from there. Better to have some than none

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over 2 years ago
over 2 years ago
Danny gone. 
Gf decision reversed. 
Mens season starting this weekend. 
Just a good fudgeing time. 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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Townsend was a friend of the Nix, and NZ football as a whole.
His legacy will always be the total miscommunication of selling the Grand Final to NSW. But he was given a bit of a hospital pass of Covid and a League that had it's income slashed (end of Foxtel TV rights), so he tried to do something and it backfired. The Unite Round in Sydney a pretty good outcome if it brings in millions extra from the NSW Govt.

But yeah wherever he's heading in the Middle East, he's likely going into an opposite environment of football cash to burn.

over 2 years ago
The F3 Derby in 8 days has been swapped to a CCM home game, who could have expected tons of dirt being dumped on the Jets stadium' turf for a motocross event would cause an issue ...
over 2 years ago
hate to think what state Sky stadium will be in whan they leave after this weekend.

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 2 years ago
theprof
hate to think what state Sky stadium will be in whan they leave after this weekend.
They use plywood ramps/run ups rather than dump tons of dirt on the surface iirc?
over 2 years ago
RR
theprof
hate to think what state Sky stadium will be in whan they leave after this weekend.
They use plywood ramps/run ups rather than dump tons of dirt on the surface iirc?

Yeah they do, all of this covers the pitch for a week or more, added weight lack of rain and sun kills grass really quickly. As per the McDonald Jones Stadium pics.

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 2 years ago
Maybe I have missed some big memo somewhere... How come there are no A League games (men or women) scheduled at all in February?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

over 2 years ago
There definitely are games in Feb. Maybe the website/app you are using has a bug.
over 2 years ago
theprof
RR
theprof
hate to think what state Sky stadium will be in whan they leave after this weekend.
They use plywood ramps/run ups rather than dump tons of dirt on the surface iirc?

Yeah they do, all of this covers the pitch for a week or more, added weight lack of rain and sun kills grass really quickly. As per the McDonald Jones Stadium pics.

Think they are mostly off to the side of the pitch IIRC from last time. 
about 2 years ago
Petition to ban The Niche Cache from ever using the word "funky" again

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Marto
Not good news here either:

Scrapping expansion right after Arnie complains about lack of games for players in the A League

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/31/a-league-expansion-2026-new-teams-updates-potentially-scrapped

"Potentially scrapping" nothing set in stone yet Auckland and Canberra still going ahead so it's only the next step they are thinking about delaying.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 2 years ago
Tbf it’s probably worth delaying as the quality isn’t there to support expansion yet imo. The league has already dropped back in quality a bit. And it’s struggling to support the teams that exist now. 


about 2 years ago
So Foley got the franchise at a 25% discount? I am gaining respect for him

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about 2 years ago
martinb
Tbf it’s probably worth delaying as the quality isn’t there to support expansion yet imo. The league has already dropped back in quality a bit. And it’s struggling to support the teams that exist now. 

It seems that Canberra is still behind the eighth ball on this. They were very ready several years ago and the refusal to let them in caused a lot of good people to give up. I am not sure if the current bid is based on the same people. So Auckland has more legs to be ready in time, mostly because of the good luck of us having a seriously competent millionaire ready to sink his money into Auckland team.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 2 years ago
Mainland FC
martinb
Tbf it’s probably worth delaying as the quality isn’t there to support expansion yet imo. The league has already dropped back in quality a bit. And it’s struggling to support the teams that exist now. 

It seems that Canberra is still behind the eighth ball on this. They were very ready several years ago and the refusal to let them in caused a lot of good people to give up. I am not sure if the current bid is based on the same people. So Auckland has more legs to be ready in time, mostly because of the good luck of us having a seriously competent millionaire ready to sink his money into Auckland team.

Or billionaire? 


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Bill Foley's worth US$1.7billion. So in $NZ 2.900,000,000.00 
i.e $NZ two thousand nine hundred million. Probably a bit more than Terry could put his name to in 2007.
about 2 years ago
Jessie Merino
Bill Foley's worth US$1.7billion. So in $NZ 2.900,000,000.00 
i.e $NZ two thousand nine hundred million. Probably a bit more than Terry could put his name to in 2007.

That really is an insane amount of money for one person to have when half the world survives on SFA.
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about 2 years ago
Marto
Jessie Merino
Bill Foley's worth US$1.7billion. So in $NZ 2.900,000,000.00 
i.e $NZ two thousand nine hundred million. Probably a bit more than Terry could put his name to in 2007.

That really is an insane amount of money for one person to have when half the world survives on SFA.

I am happy he likes football more than owning spaceships or social media companies.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 2 years ago
My new toy, a Herald membership. An older article

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/auckland-stadium-debate-is-turning-into-a-mess-as-south-island-league-bid-reveals-hollywood-link-sports-insider/I26HB6YWKBBBVFUJDLTD2SPFIM/

A-League content folly strategy is a warning for NZ Rugby and Silver Lake

‘We’re a football business, not a media business’: A-League bosses explain job cuts.

I read that headline with incredulity in the Sydney Morning Herald this week.

It was delivered by new A-League commissioner Nick Garcia (back to him in a minute) as an explanation as to why Australasia’s premier club football league was in dire trouble bleeding money and had sacked half of its 80 staff.

It’s hard to know where to start with the A-League debacle across the Tasman but let’s link a few things together that should raise acute red flags for sport on this side of the Ditch.

For starters (and Super Rugby sides pursuing a similar-styled commission should be careful what they wish for!), over-zealous club owners forced a split away from Football Australia in 2020 in the belief they could take the A-League to a new level.

The chief ringleaders were Melbourne City who are owned by the Abu Dhabi-owned City Football Group in which Silver Lake paid US$500m for a 14.5 per cent stake in 2019, since upped to over 18 per cent.

Who was working for City Football Group, owners of Manchester City, at the time? None other than Nick Garcia.

Football Australia warned club owners to be careful what they wished for, cut the A-League loose and are now flush with funds off the astounding success of the national women’s team, the Matildas.

In the meantime, in 2021 the ambitious A-League club owners negotiated a A$140 million sale of a 33 per cent stake to Silver Lake.

That cash injection has been scandalously squandered as this SMH investigation outlines.

Now the A-League faces a potential nightmare scenario of being forced to buy out its largest shareholder by 2029 which would require the sport to fund hundreds of millions of dollars or a secure new investor to survive.

Effectively, that has happened because the A-League made a ridiculous decision to invest in becoming a content company. It spent millions creating a digital and content arm caked KeepUp which featured content from domestic leagues to European leagues and national teams.

Presumably, it did this with the endorsement of Silver Lake.

KeepUp has been a spectacular disaster.


Auckland's A-Leagues licensee Bill Foley may be wondering what he's got himself into. Photo / Photosport

Garcia had the hide to pass off his former employer City Football Group’s own contribution to a revolution that blew up in the owners’ faces. But in reality, KeepUp was the brainchild of previous A-League CEO Danny Townsend.

He vacated his seat weeks before the full extent of the KeepUp folly was exposed and has somehow ended up with a plum job running Saudi Arabia’s notorious PIF sovereign wealth fund disrupting just about every professional sport.

American billionaire and new Auckland A-League franchise owner Bill Foley is the sort of new owner the A-League needs because he brings credibility (not to mention $25m in expansion license fees the league desperately needs). But he must be wondering what he’s got himself into.

In the meantime, it’s remiss if we don’t at least join the dots back to Silver Lake and its New Zealand Rugby investment.

The biggest noise we’ve heard from Silver Lake’s $200m investment in the national union (soon to be $262m) is the global content app NZR + which is designed to deliver All Blacks and NZR content to global fanbases (increasing revenue along the way).

If you think that sounds suspiciously similar to the A-League media venture, you’re not alone.

There are subtle differences between both, but by and large, it’s a content business strategy that is already showing signs of coming up short. New NZR ‘ComCo’ commercial boss Craig Fenton only needs to pick up the phone to any Kiwi media business owner to understand that.

about 2 years ago
Marto
Jessie Merino
Bill Foley's worth US$1.7billion. So in $NZ 2.900,000,000.00 
i.e $NZ two thousand nine hundred million. Probably a bit more than Terry could put his name to in 2007.

That really is an insane amount of money for one person to have when half the world survives on SFA.

Flavio Briatore $4 Billion personal wealth.
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about 2 years ago
Don't think Briatore is worth that much, he has rich friends and always wheeled and dealed in F1 (and got banned for cheating) and owned a store called billionaire, but I think he's "only" worth a few hundred million. 
about 2 years ago
I’d say he’s a billionaire because he doesn’t waste much money and he’s prepared and able to do a bit of investing in the medium to long term. 


about 2 years ago
The big problem which I have to keep reiterating is that if the APL hadn't split from Football Australia, the Nix would have been kicked out of the competition

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about 2 years ago
Doloras
The big problem which I have to keep reiterating is that if the APL hadn't split from Football Australia, the Nix would have been kicked out of the competition

Hard to say really but division of theA Leagues from Football Australia always had to happen but you do have to wonder how much meddling was done by Football Australia in the background leading to this mess.
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almost 2 years ago
RR

Is there a trophy for that too?
If so, they're on for a club quadruple. 
almost 2 years ago


Well this sucks