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over 7 years ago

We have a history of leaking goals late in the second half. I hope this approach from Rudan might help to fix that.



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over 7 years ago

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?


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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Mainland FC wrote:

We have a history of leaking goals late in the second half. I hope this approach from Rudan might help to fix that.

As long as there are no oranges at half time we should be ok!

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Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

'Before season start an ex-SAS friend of mine challenged me to go on a fifty mile run. So I did. And nobody could keep up with me for the rest of the season.' Kevin Keegan, in UK Sunday Times

50 miles = distance from Wellington to Martinborough.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 7 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

Ernie tested the team under fatigue pre-season too



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over 7 years ago

The team will be able to cope with amy abuse shouted at them by the fans if they survived the army grueling. Of course we hope there wont be necessity for abuse shouting anyway.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

'Before season start an ex-SAS friend of mine challenged me to go on a fifty mile run. So I did. And nobody could keep up with me for the rest of the season.' Kevin Keegan, in UK Sunday Times

50 miles = distance from Wellington to Martinborough.

All whilst lugging around 10kg of hair.

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over 7 years ago

The team will be able to cope with amy abuse shouted at them by the fans if they survived the army grueling. Of course we hope there wont be necessity for abuse shouting anyway.

Need to work on a 'sound off' - style chant.

"You've nailed it in a nutshell." - Mark Rudan

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over 7 years ago

hazhapard wrote:

The team will be able to cope with amy abuse shouted at them by the fans if they survived the army grueling. Of course we hope there wont be necessity for abuse shouting anyway.

Need to work on a 'sound off' - style chant.

Was suggested to do something like this in the early days but was beaten down. Have always thought it could sound pretty good if done properly.Havnt really heard it used at football for whatever reason.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 7 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

That's what Rudan said in the post match press conference after the Bentley greens game.

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over 7 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

'Before season start an ex-SAS friend of mine challenged me to go on a fifty mile run. So I did. And nobody could keep up with me for the rest of the season.' Kevin Keegan, in UK Sunday Times

50 miles = distance from Wellington to Martinborough.

A decent Martinborough pinot is worth going the distance.



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over 7 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Anyone else note the argument in this article that we lost to Bentleigh due to exhaustion from Rudan's hardarse training methods?

'Before season start an ex-SAS friend of mine challenged me to go on a fifty mile run. So I did. And nobody could keep up with me for the rest of the season.' Kevin Keegan, in UK Sunday Times

50 miles = distance from Wellington to Martinborough.

A decent pinot is worth going the distance.

ftfy

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over 7 years ago

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over 7 years ago

Tommio wrote:

Rudan still saying all the right things. Nothing too new in here, but good to see his attitude hasn't changed one bit.

New Phoenix manager Mark Rudan's full interview with 1 NEWS

Really interesting that they're still in talks with marquee free agents. Given that it's a striker we are after, there only seem to be a few marquee name forwards that are unsigned. Karim Ansarifard, Lacina Traore, Victor Anichebe, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Giuseppe Rossi, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov - wonder if it could be any of them. O'Rourke has also said that an unnamed A-League club is in early negotiations with a marquee quality free agent - surely would have to be one of those names
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over 7 years ago

Tommio wrote:

Rudan still saying all the right things. Nothing too new in here, but good to see his attitude hasn't changed one bit.

New Phoenix manager Mark Rudan's full interview with 1 NEWS

Really interesting that they're still in talks with marquee free agents. Given that it's a striker we are after, there only seem to be a few marquee name forwards that are unsigned. Karim Ansarifard, Lacina Traore, Victor Anichebe, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Giuseppe Rossi, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov - wonder if it could be any of them. O'Rourke has also said that an unnamed A-League club is in early negotiations with a marquee quality free agent - surely would have to be one of those names

Berbatov oozed class, but his style is lazy looking and wouldn't go down that well at nix, especially now he is older and likely less work rate, as evidenced by a lower strike rate in last few years

Robbie Keane would be nice. Always looked like he wanted it and no doubt would still put a shift in, just that sort of player. And mostly banged them in around 1 every 2 games

The others are all much younger. So may have more left in their legs. 

No one has heard of Anisarifard, so less likely to spend big on him. Agbonlahor, Anichebe and Rossi have pretty average strike rates.

Treetrunk Traore also low strike rate of late, but allows us to pump high balls in the box, and we can sell him to the Breakers when we're done.

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over 7 years ago

ClubOranje wrote:

Tommio wrote:

Rudan still saying all the right things. Nothing too new in here, but good to see his attitude hasn't changed one bit.

New Phoenix manager Mark Rudan's full interview with 1 NEWS

Really interesting that they're still in talks with marquee free agents. Given that it's a striker we are after, there only seem to be a few marquee name forwards that are unsigned. Karim Ansarifard, Lacina Traore, Victor Anichebe, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Giuseppe Rossi, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov - wonder if it could be any of them. O'Rourke has also said that an unnamed A-League club is in early negotiations with a marquee quality free agent - surely would have to be one of those names

Berbatov oozed class, but his style is lazy looking and wouldn't go down that well at nix, especially now he is older and likely less work rate, as evidenced by a lower strike rate in last few years

Robbie Keane would be nice. Always looked like he wanted it and no doubt would still put a shift in, just that sort of player. And mostly banged them in around 1 every 2 games

The others are all much younger. So may have more left in their legs. 

No one has heard of Anisarifard, so less likely to spend big on him. Agbonlahor, Anichebe and Rossi have pretty average strike rates.

Treetrunk Traore also low strike rate of late, but allows us to pump high balls in the box, and we can sell him to the Breakers when we're done.

to be honest I think Lacina is probably even taller than a lot of that breakers squad. But anyway, I agree with everything you say. In terms of who is the best striker on that list at present day I'd say hands down Anisarifard, but like you say no one knows him. Keane would be fun though. Berbs is too lazy
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over 7 years ago

ClubOranje wrote:

No one has heard of Anisarifard, so less likely to spend big on him. Agbonlahor, Anichebe and Rossi have pretty average strike rates.

I've heard of Ansarifard, he played for my Greek League team for 3 years. 41 appearances, 13 goals. He was more threatening than that sounds.

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over 7 years ago

I just love how straight up this guy is! he tells it like is, no mucking around - gives me hope!!!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 7 years ago

ClubOranje wrote:

Tommio wrote:

Rudan still saying all the right things. Nothing too new in here, but good to see his attitude hasn't changed one bit.

New Phoenix manager Mark Rudan's full interview with 1 NEWS

Really interesting that they're still in talks with marquee free agents. Given that it's a striker we are after, there only seem to be a few marquee name forwards that are unsigned. Karim Ansarifard, Lacina Traore, Victor Anichebe, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Giuseppe Rossi, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov - wonder if it could be any of them. O'Rourke has also said that an unnamed A-League club is in early negotiations with a marquee quality free agent - surely would have to be one of those names

The others are all much younger. So may have more left in their legs. 

Rossi, fantastic footballer, just about has no legs left. He has spent almost 3.5yrs injured:
Season injury from until Days Games missed
17/18 Hamstring Injury Jan 22, 2018 Mar 10, 2018 47 days 6
16/17 Cruciate Ligament Rupture Apr 10, 2017 Oct 9, 2017 182 days
14/15 Muscle Fatigue Apr 9, 2015 Jun 1, 2015 53 days 13
14/15 Intraarticular ligament fissure Aug 18, 2014 Apr 9, 2015 234 days 43
13/14 Cruciate Ligament Injury Jan 6, 2014 May 1, 2014 115 days 25
11/12 Cruciate Ligament Rupture Oct 27, 2011 May 6, 2013 557 days 34
07/08 Ankle Injury Feb 21, 2008 Mar 3, 2008 11 days 3
07/08 Meniscus Damage Nov 5, 2007 Dec 17, 2007 42 days 8
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over 7 years ago

Bullion wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

Tommio wrote:

Rudan still saying all the right things. Nothing too new in here, but good to see his attitude hasn't changed one bit.

New Phoenix manager Mark Rudan's full interview with 1 NEWS

Really interesting that they're still in talks with marquee free agents. Given that it's a striker we are after, there only seem to be a few marquee name forwards that are unsigned. Karim Ansarifard, Lacina Traore, Victor Anichebe, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Giuseppe Rossi, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov - wonder if it could be any of them. O'Rourke has also said that an unnamed A-League club is in early negotiations with a marquee quality free agent - surely would have to be one of those names

The others are all much younger. So may have more left in their legs. 

Rossi, fantastic footballer, just about has no legs left. He has spent almost 3.5yrs injured:
Season injury from until Days Games missed
17/18 Hamstring Injury Jan 22, 2018 Mar 10, 2018 47 days 6
16/17 Cruciate Ligament Rupture Apr 10, 2017 Oct 9, 2017 182 days
14/15 Muscle Fatigue Apr 9, 2015 Jun 1, 2015 53 days 13
14/15 Intraarticular ligament fissure Aug 18, 2014 Apr 9, 2015 234 days 43
13/14 Cruciate Ligament Injury Jan 6, 2014 May 1, 2014 115 days 25
11/12 Cruciate Ligament Rupture Oct 27, 2011 May 6, 2013 557 days 34
07/08 Ankle Injury Feb 21, 2008 Mar 3, 2008 11 days 3
07/08 Meniscus Damage Nov 5, 2007 Dec 17, 2007 42 days 8

sweet jesus his knees are fudgeed
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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over 7 years ago

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 7 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

All I hope now is that the players deliver for him, and that the players we have are sufficient enough quality to at least get us into the top 6

a.haak

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

Did the same last night. If Rudan's attitude is reflected by our players then we will be fantastic this season. Bad habits require a lot of changing but Rudan is saying all the right things and clearly has a vision for what he wants the club to be. Would be surprised if we don't improve significantly off the pitch from last season and hopefully that will show itself on field this year and going forward.

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over 7 years ago

Rudan is the Nix's first Aussie born coach. 

Pretty sure some of the Warrior's best seasons were with Australians in charge. Daniel Anderson & Ivan Cleary, took them to grand finals??

I'm not a basketball fan, so not sure if Breakers had an Aussie in charge when they won those NBL titles. But have an inkling they did.

The hard nosed, no excuse - magic dust just may work in NZ.

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over 7 years ago

the part of that interview that impressed me was that he's saying he's a kiwi and he's in this 100%

Queenslander 3x a year.

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coochiee wrote:

Rudan is the Nix's first Aussie born coach. 

Pretty sure some of the Warrior's best seasons were with Australians in charge. Daniel Anderson & Ivan Cleary, took them to grand finals??

I'm not a basketball fan, so not sure if Breakers had an Aussie in charge when they won those NBL titles. But have an inkling they did.

The hard nosed, no excuse - magic dust just may work in NZ.

Yup, Andrej Lemanis coached the Breakers in the 2011, 2012, 2013 threepeat. Current Boomers coach as well.

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over 7 years ago

valeo wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

All I hope now is that the players deliver for him, and that the players we have are sufficient enough quality to at least get us into the top 6

We have to get rid of that top 6 fixation. Aim for number one and that's it.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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been a Queensland kind of koiwoi, but Rudans reminding me of Stephen Price and the reliability and professionalism he brought to the Warriors.

Proof of the pudding will be results, but also how the team plays. 



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over 7 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

valeo wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

All I hope now is that the players deliver for him, and that the players we have are sufficient enough quality to at least get us into the top 6

We have to get rid of that top 6 fixation. Aim for number one and that's it.

No, you have to have a plan to get to #1 but it's pretty much impossible to aim for #1 in the short term when you're competing with the budget of the Victory.

The only way the Phoenix will get to #1 is to build up to it over a few seasons, aiming for #1 this season is delusional.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

valeo wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Having just listened to the entire interview, If you do and are not motivated to show up or get behind the team, then there is something seriously wrong. The last 2 minutes especially. This guys could well be a legend and deserves our full backing. Top interview in my humble opinion.

All I hope now is that the players deliver for him, and that the players we have are sufficient enough quality to at least get us into the top 6

We have to get rid of that top 6 fixation. Aim for number one and that's it.

Alright, cool, but let's be realistic considering the last two seasons

a.haak

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over 7 years ago

Ryan wrote:
 aiming for #1 this season is delusional.

I guess you didn't tell E.Merrick this last year huh?

There is nothing wrong with aiming high. There is manything wrong with accepting mediocrity before you even begin.

E + R + O

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over 7 years ago

Surge wrote:

Ryan wrote:
 aiming for #1 this season is delusional.

I guess you didn't tell E.Merrick this last year huh?

There is nothing wrong with aiming high. There is manything wrong with accepting mediocrity before you even begin.

Way to take one comment in isolation, you aim for the top of course - but you have to build towards it.

Merrick wasn't #1 and lighting does strike, I doubt Merrick told his team to aim for #1 considering his message was about personal goals in Wellington.

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Surge wrote:

Ryan wrote:
 aiming for #1 this season is delusional.

I guess you didn't tell E.Merrick this last year huh?

There is nothing wrong with aiming high. There is manything wrong with accepting mediocrity before you even begin.

At this point in the Nix track record, sixth spot is not "mediocrity".  Now if we get to sixth spot this season, then aiming for the sixth spot the following season would be mediocrity.



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over 7 years ago

Had the question posed to me on Twitter, what is a pass mark for Rudan this season?

I've gone with concede less than 40 goals. Our biggest weakness these last seasons has been the defence, if Rudan can sort that out we can build on that for next season and push towards the top six. Expecting that we will make the play offs with the squad we have seems rather optimistic.

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over 7 years ago

30 points

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over 7 years ago

I just want us to be genuinely competitive with no huge controversies. Don't think that's too much to ask.

a.haak

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RR wrote:

Had the question posed to me on Twitter, what is a pass mark for Rudan this season?

I've gone with concede less than 40 goals. Our biggest weakness these last seasons has been the defence, if Rudan can sort that out we can build on that for next season and push towards the top six. Expecting that we will make the play offs with the squad we have seems rather optimistic.

Hyslop had us at 6th in his preview which I thought was quite optimistic. I think a lot of fans (me included) will be happy if we play positive football, show some ticker on defense, and bring a few back through the gates, all while picking up a few wins along the way. If we finish 7th or 8th but achieve all of the above and get our long-term future sorted then it won't have been a disaster. I think we will find it much easier to recruit going forward if/when the A League becomes independent and we get some certainty as to our license. 

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over 7 years ago

Think our seasons success will depend very much on us avoiding any long term injuries to our key players. Avoid those and i wouldnt be surprised to see us  make a real push for the finals.However should the opposite happen due to our lack of quality depth things could get dire.

A season without a 5-0 or 5-1 battering would go along way and the players to show the same commitment to the cause as the faithful have shown.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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