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match panel review

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Just wanted to open a thread to comment on the bans dished out by the match panel review.

I know it's late in the season, but there have been a few incidents over the last 3 days, so I'd like to see what will happen.
 
Hopefully Pantelis will get a few weeks off (and maybe Smeltz too, although I think his tackle on Langerak wasn't intentional).

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Muscat aswell
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muscat will be fine, pantelis has got to go, I think even though smeltz's appeared unitentional he did step on a keepers face!

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why do you think muscat will be fine?
that looked like a deliberate elbow to the face. no different from muscat's. I am really curious! will be checking the a-league website every 10 minutes till they updated it.

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why do you think muscat will be fine?
that looked like a deliberate elbow to the face. no different from muscat's. I am really curious! will be checking the a-league website every 10 minutes till they updated it.


Fast motion it looks innocuous, at slow motion it looks worse for Musky.

A week he'll get, he may even get lucky.
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theprof wrote:
muscat will be fine, pantelis has got to go, I think even though smeltz's appeared unitentional he did step on a keepers face!


I was saying to aikenmike on here that Smeltz's incident may come under review, unintentional or not, that's almost 3 weeks in a row where he has been involved near a Goalkeeper's face.

Neil Young won't be playing again for a while. To me, it's worth a look.
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I agree with you diego's son. Even when he was back at the Nix he used to charge keepers sometimes. Not that he's a filthy player, but he has certainly worsened in the last year.
That crazy tackle a couple of weeks back (in the 1-1 draw, don't remember against who) should have earned him a couple of weeks on the sidelines but he got lucky.

Anyway, if he gets 1 week it means he won't play against us, and that could only be a good thing!

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I agree with you diego's son. Even when he was back at the Nix he used to charge keepers sometimes. Not that he's a filthy player, but he has certainly worsened in the last year.
That crazy tackle a couple of weeks back (in the 1-1 draw, don't remember against who) should have earned him a couple of weeks on the sidelines but he got lucky.

Anyway, if he gets 1 week it means he won't play against us, and that could only be a good thing!


Thanks mate, it's too oftern now that Smeltzy's foot has been near a keeper's face, not saying he's a dirty player, but it's worth 'monitoring' (good ex-Government employee speak there) for the time being.



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The independent Match Review Panel (MRP) - consisting of Barry Such (Chair), Simon Micallef and Alan Davidson - convened to consider the following incidents from Round 25:

* The incident involving Steve Patelidis (Gold Coast United) in or around the 13th minute of Gold Coast United's match against Melbourne Victory on Friday night. As the incident escaped the attention of the referee, the MRP has the authority to consider the incident. In reviewing the incident, the MRP alleges that Steve Pantelidis had committed the offence of "Assault on a Player (e.g. violent conduct when not challenging for the ball)" against Robbie Kruse and proposed a sanction of five (5) matches. This is three (3) additional matches to the two (2) match minimum sanction for such an offence. The player has until 1:00pm (AEDT) tomorrow to accept the proposed sanction or refer the matter to a hearing by the FFA Disciplinary Committee.

* The incident involving Kevin Muscat (Melbourne Victory) in or around the 39th minute of Melbourne Victory's match against Gold Coast United on Friday night. As the incident escaped the attention of the referee, the MRP has the authority to consider the incident. In reviewing the incident, the MRP alleges that Muscat had committed the offence of "Serious Foul Play (e.g. when challenging for the ball)" against Jason Culina and proposed a sanction of two (2) matches. This is one (1) additional match to the one (1) match minimum sanction for such an offence. The player has until 12:00 noon (AEDT) tomorrow to accept the proposed sanction or refer the matter to a hearing by the FFA Disciplinary Committee.
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great!
I think they both deserve at least 5 weeks and 2 weeks respectively (though I think they could have been harder on Muscat. We want to discourage this kind of foul play).

I wonder wether either player will be given a discount? I surely hope not!

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No chance for Pantaledis to get a discount, he's already on 12 yellows for the season, and previously suspended due to that. He's lucky he didn't get longer.

Kevin Muscat has had his ban coming for a long time, good to see the FFA give him a seat on the bench for the crucial final few games Melbourne have to play.
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Notice Muscat's ban conveniently ends as soon as the play-offs start.

To be honest I don't think there was anything in Smeltz's challenge.  Strikers have every right to go for the ball.  Fault doesn't really enter into it.  Add to that I hate that ugly 12 year old Langerak.
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loyalgunner wrote:
Notice Muscat's ban conveniently ends as soon as the play-offs start.

To be honest I don't think there was anything in Smeltz's challenge.  Strikers have every right to go for the ball.  Fault doesn't really enter into it.  Add to that I hate that ugly 12 year old Langerak.
 
 
With Muscat suspended and both Thompson and Kruse doubtful through injury Melbourne may fade to 3rd spot. And if we finish 6th....
 
Hmmm, Tards v Nix playoff in Melbourne. Now from a selfish point of view that would make me a very happy chappie.
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loyalgunner wrote:
Notice Muscat's ban conveniently ends as soon as the play-offs start.

To be honest I don't think there was anything in Smeltz's challenge.  Strikers have every right to go for the ball.  Fault doesn't really enter into it.  Add to that I hate that ugly 12 year old Langerak.


Conspiracy you say about Musky, come on fella! As for Smeltz's tackle, it's worth a look, it's happened too frequently of late to not put it under further 'review'.

His studs were in Mitch's face, if he was kicking the ball it would have been his laces in his face.

Worth a look at least in my eyes.
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StopOut wrote:
loyalgunner wrote:
Notice Muscat's ban conveniently ends as soon as the play-offs start.

To be honest I don't think there was anything in Smeltz's challenge.  Strikers have every right to go for the ball.  Fault doesn't really enter into it.  Add to that I hate that ugly 12 year old Langerak.
 
 
With Muscat suspended and both Thompson and Kruse doubtful through injury Melbourne may fade to 3rd spot. And if we finish 6th....
 
Hmmm, Tards v Nix playoff in Melbourne. Now from a selfish point of view that would make me a very happy chappie.


Are you Melbourne based? Will be another romp whoever comes to Melbourne for the play-offs if Victory finish 3rd.
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no worries guys we will finish 4th.

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Yeah the Smeltzy thing is worth a look for me, been happening a bit to much of late though. Not sure that is a reason to suspend him for one incident though. You cant exactly say well that wasn't malicious but combined with the other 3 in the past 3 games you can have a sit down sunshine

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bopman wrote:
Yeah the Smeltzy thing is worth a look for me, been happening a bit to much of late though. Not sure that is a reason to suspend him for one incident though. You cant exactly say well that wasn't malicious but combined with the other 3 in the past 3 games you can have a sit down sunshine
 
A twist on the 3 strike policy. But it's 3 innocent verdicts and you're out.
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Muscat two matches!
YUS!

I hope that the appeal fails and it actually happens. He has got away with so much over the years.
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you know what would be nice??
Muscat appeals, and he cops an extra week ban just because he had no grounds for appealing in the first place!!

Now, I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure stuff like this happens in court rooms sometimes.
Not sure it happens at disciplinary hearings though.

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diego's son wrote:

theprof wrote:
muscat will be fine, pantelis has got to go, I think even though smeltz's appeared unitentional he did step on a keepers face!
I was saying to aikenmike on here that Smeltz's incident may come under review, unintentional or not, that's almost 3 weeks in a row where he has been involved near a Goalkeeper's face.Neil Young won't be playing again for a while. To me, it's worth a look.


And surprise surprise, they don't ban people for unintentional contact. Who knew.
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you know what would be nice??
Muscat appeals, and he cops an extra week ban just because he had no grounds for appealing in the first place!!

Now, I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure stuff like this happens in court rooms sometimes.
Not sure it happens at disciplinary hearings though.
 
I think what can happen in the legal system is that for whatever reason the next  person finds that the original punishment is found to be too lenient in the first place and for it to be increased. Not just increasing it because the appeal was a sucky one. Don't think this happens in the A-League though.
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Happens in the NRL.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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aitkenmike wrote:
diego's son wrote:

theprof wrote:
muscat will be fine, pantelis has got to go, I think even though smeltz's appeared unitentional he did step on a keepers face!
I was saying to aikenmike on here that Smeltz's incident may come under review, unintentional or not, that's almost 3 weeks in a row where he has been involved near a Goalkeeper's face.Neil Young won't be playing again for a while. To me, it's worth a look.


And surprise surprise, they don't ban people for unintentional contact. Who knew.
Yeah its kind of like a striker going for a diving header and getting kicked in the face...not the defenders fault the striker put his face in harms way. Same deal with a goalkeeper sliding along the ground in front of smeltz feet. Smeltz shouldnt have to pull out of going for the ball because of it,so shouldnt be punished.

Allegedly

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Where's C-Diddy with his "Melbourne run the A-League" conspiracy theories now?
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Well, the main thing is Melbourne finishing outside the top 2. That makes their road to the finals a lot harder, considering the teams they would be playing, there is a chance for a big upset at the moment.

Will have to see how the final Melbourne vs Sydney match goes, to see who finishes top 2 with GCU.
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kiwi pie wrote:
Where's C-Diddy with his "Melbourne run the A-League" conspiracy theories now?


Should've got 3 imo.
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chocnut wrote:
kiwi pie wrote:
Where's C-Diddy with his "Melbourne run the A-League" conspiracy theories now?


Should've got 3 imo.
Agreed. Lucky we run the comp.
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Look, everyone knows Panta is normally mild and calm. 

It's quite obviously the rat-faced little cock-sucker did something.

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kiwi pie wrote:
 
 
 
It's the Hairy Bikers!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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kiwi pie wrote:
Where's C-Diddy with his "Melbourne run the A-League" conspiracy theories now?
 
 
 
Musc**t will appeal and get no more than 1 week so he can play Sydney!
 
We all know how it works when you're an Ex-Socceroo...
 
 
C-Diddy2010-02-02 21:36:00

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Hopefully they will slap an extra week on for a frivolous appeal.
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http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=32347

looks like I was right - in theory. and he could cop and extra week on the side lines in the end.
I hope so!

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If only Hard News was on the Review Committee then Muscat would definately get the Ban Stick!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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News just in: Muscat's appeal successful
 
The independent Match Review Panel (MRP) - consisting of Robbie Slater(Chair), Andy Harper and Archie Thompson - convened to consider the appeal from Kevin Muscat of the Melbourne Victory against the sanction imposed following an incident from Round 25:

Following review, the MRP have decided to overturn the original decision that our Kev had committed the offence of "Serious Foul Play (e.g. when challenging for the ball)" against Jason Culina, and the proposed a sanction of two (2) matches.  Furthermore, as a further consequence of upholding Mr Muscat's appeal, the MRP has decided that Jason Culina had committed the offence of "Serious Foul Play (e.g. when challenging for the ball)" against the lovely Kevin Muscat by making contact with Kevin's delicate elbiow with his cheekbone, and proposed a sanction of twenty two (22) matches. This is twenty one (21) additional matches to the one (1) match minimum sanction for such an offence.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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ahahaha very funny Jag! :)

Seriously though, when are we going to know if the appeal/s was/were successful?

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Jag wrote:
News just in: Muscat's appeal successful
 
The independent Match Review Panel (MRP) - consisting of Robbie Slater(Chair), Andy Harper and Archie Thompson - convened to consider the appeal from Kevin Muscat of the Melbourne Victory against the sanction imposed following an incident from Round 25:

Following review, the MRP have decided to overturn the original decision that our Kev had committed the offence of "Serious Foul Play (e.g. when challenging for the ball)" against Jason Culina, and the proposed a sanction of two (2) matches.  Furthermore, as a further consequence of upholding Mr Muscat's appeal, the MRP has decided that Jason Culina had committed the offence of "Serious Foul Play (e.g. when challenging for the ball)" against the lovely Kevin Muscat by making contact with Kevin's delicate elbiow with his cheekbone, and proposed a sanction of twenty two (22) matches. This is twenty one (21) additional matches to the one (1) match minimum sanction for such an offence.
 
gona be honset, i thought it was legit until the jason culina part. lol even then i re-read it just to make sure lol. very profesional looking

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