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Eden Pk has recorded its most successful net operating profit year in its history. In the 12 months to Oct 31, n.o.p. was $8.263mill, a $4.618mill increase on the previous year, on the back of the 2022 Women's Rugby WC, the FIFA Women's WC plus concerts by Ed Sheeran, Billy Joel and Guns N' Roses. More than 1mill people attended events at Eden Pk in 2023.

Sauce : NZ Herald 21/02/24

From the above article sounds like it's some creative accounting to get that Net Profit figure.



Ed Sheeran alone attracted 100,000 to his two gigs. Foley has instructed Corica to sign him up.
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Would expect a better singer for our first game 
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I think the Quay Park location is better in terms of proximity to existing public transport. With Wynyard it is only one way in and one way out. Imagine a Friday night game with traffic competing with commuter traffic on the bridge. Also wondering if the building of another harbour crossing might cause severe congestion in the area during the construction period.
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One way in and out - but many of those 000's would come via Britomart and then walk past dozens of honeytraps en route. Just like the temptations offered at international airports. Also, isn't the Quay option contingent on bowling Eden Pk for room to build all those 000's of new apartments that will fund it? If the Eden Park trust get the ok from Auck Council to put on another 6 annual mega musical events, which is what they're asking for,  then keeping Eden Pk might become a reality and building at Wynyard Pt the best remaining option.
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I don’t think the latest Quay Park proposal requires the sale of EP and use of the sale funds. I know there was such a plan a while ago but don’t think it applies to the latest proposal.

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One way in and out - but many of those 000's would come via Britomart and then walk past dozens of honeytraps en route. Just like the temptations offered at international airports. Also, isn't the Quay option contingent on bowling Eden Pk for room to build all those 000's of new apartments that will fund it? If the Eden Park trust get the ok from Auck Council to put on another 6 annual mega musical events, which is what they're asking for,  then keeping Eden Pk might become a reality and building at Wynyard Pt the best remaining option.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350195199/public-decide-future-north-harbour-stadium-proposal-rebuild-it-community-sports

North Harbour Stadium has become a white elephant, rarely used and running at a heavy loss to Auckland ratepayers.

Those options are to continue with the stadium as it is and spend $33 million over the next 10 years for its upkeep. Or put that money towards a combination of fit-for-purpose facilities for indoor and outdoor sports. If that $33m isn’t enough, part of the land around the precinct would be sold off to make up the shortfall.

The numbers for North Harbour Stadium are grim.
It made an operating loss of $2.6m last year and the forecast future capital spend over the next 10 years is $32.9m.

For the 2022/23 financial year, ratepayers subsidised every attendee to an event there to the tune of $35.68.

Hill said sporting organisations and promoters have decided they want to take their events elsewhere and dropping the price for hiring the facility isn’t a solution.
“They have got other choices and there’s a general perception that it’s further away,” he said.

“That’s a model that the franchises are looking for.
Getting up above 10,000 is very difficult and it begs the question of whether you’re better to be slightly smaller, with more demand and a better atmosphere. Or do you design it for the largest crowd you might get? And that comes with a higher cost.

“If the community wants to explore a different sized stadium, those are the sorts of discussions that need to be had.”
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The NHS complex is good - the football fields and associated facilities and the big oval for cricket/AFL are lovely, and I assume the aquatic centre is nice. But bulldoze the stadium. If necessary sell part of the land and rebuild a 4-5000 seat venue.
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If there is some way to keep the existing main grandstand, but create a more boutique ground maybe at a higher 6,000-8,000 range I reckon that would be good. 

As someone else said a few months ago, who knows what the population of Auckland, and specifically the North Shore could be in 10-20 years. Definitely a growth corridor out there Albany way. Could be another 200-500K folk living on the North Shore in 15-20 years time. By then they might have their own professional Super Rugby and/or A League club - and need a stadium to suit. NZ esp Auckland has a history of piss poor long term infrastructure planning.
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Make it a test cricket ground, it’s sharke that we haven’t had test cricket in Auckland for donkeys years 
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Make it a test cricket ground, it’s sharke that we haven’t had test cricket in Auckland for donkeys years 

NZ cricket want to make colin maiden park a test venue
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.
Is it 6 and out if you hit the overpass over Victoria Park on the full?
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.

I’d walk laps around Auckland Domain thinking it could make a beautiful Basin like test cricket ground with a bit of earthworks and at least one new grandstand. Still keep the small one where the Asian guy plays his flute. 

Views of the Skytower and Museum. No doubt a big NIMBY element in the area would oppose it

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"Precinct Properties (owner of Commercial Bay) has started two new apartment developments in the Quay Park area, buying and converting two office buildings in a in a joint development with Ngati Orakei" - 2day's Herald. 
Space for that stadium being squeezed even more it seems...
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Make it a test cricket ground, it’s sharke that we haven’t had test cricket in Auckland for donkeys years 

NZ cricket want to make colin maiden park a test venue
I used to play football there for Bohemian Celtic and now my daughter plays her Saturday morning cricket there
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.
Is it 6 and out if you hit the overpass over Victoria Park on the full?
You get 12 if you hit a moving car
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The Domain will be a no-goer as it is an integral part of the floodwater overflow plan for Auckland
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.

I’d walk laps around Auckland Domain thinking it could make a beautiful Basin like test cricket ground with a bit of earthworks and at least one new grandstand. Still keep the small one where the Asian guy plays his flute. 

Views of the Skytower and Museum. No doubt a big NIMBY element in the area would oppose it

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I think Auckland would be best served with a 12k rectangular stadium with terracing at both ends and seating in the two main grandstands.  Possibly work for Auckland Rugby as well as football. If bigger crowds need bigger stadiums, they still have their other 2 options. How do Aucklander's feel about locations? The Old Rugby League Stadium (Carlaw Park) down near Britomart would have been a good location in it's day.
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I think Auckland would be best served with a 12k rectangular stadium with terracing at both ends and seating in the two main grandstands.  Possibly work for Auckland Rugby as well as football. If bigger crowds need bigger stadiums, they still have their other 2 options. How do Aucklander's feel about locations? The Old Rugby League Stadium (Carlaw Park) down near Britomart would have been a good location in it's day.
Would have to of course see how the current stadium debate pans out, but Foley would probably have the resources.
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Not the best example, but below is link to a goal scored at BC Place by one of Bill Tuiloma's Charlotte FC team mates today. Near the end of the vid you can see the upper tier at BC Place is all blocked off with the giant black curtains - creating 'club mode'.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/video/goal-i-tavares-vs-van-31

Seems plenty of crowd noise when Vancouver equalise. 
https://www.mlssoccer.com/video/goal-i-tavares-vs-van-31#goal-r-raposo-vs-clt-45-5
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Imagine Vic Park as a test ground. Or Auckland Domain.

So many options yet they do fudge all about it.

Victoria Park gaining ground as a cricket Test venue. See 2day's Herald. Populous, the architects behind the Tank Farm rectangular stadium bid, (plus Spurs stadium) have now also designed Vic Park as an oval, with grandstand up against the flyover and open access everywhere else, linking the two venues as a City sports park destination a la Melbourne.

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This is an interesting development in regards to the Auckland Stadium situation.

Wonder if the Warriors intend to play more games at Eden Park in the future.
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This is an interesting development in regards to the Auckland Stadium situation.

Wonder if the Warriors intend to play more games at Eden Park in the future.

Interesting. Seems a little at odds to their usual statements around their fabase being in the south and remaining at Mt Smart because of this.
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This is an interesting development in regards to the Auckland Stadium situation.

Wonder if the Warriors intend to play more games at Eden Park in the future.

Interesting. Seems a little at odds to their usual statements around their fabase being in the south and remaining at Mt Smart because of this.

Or it’s just another way to make money? League’s popular everywhere, especially if they are winning. 
Used to be that Mac’s pub, eh. 
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Anyone go to BarFifa before FIFA told them off? 
That was in the long ago of the world. 

Shiiite, there’s a long gap between our games. We don’t do a lot of terrestrial TV where you have to wait a week between episodes. I’m badly out of practice. And so worried about this last level and the final boss. 
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This is an interesting development in regards to the Auckland Stadium situation.

Wonder if the Warriors intend to play more games at Eden Park in the future.

Interesting. Seems a little at odds to their usual statements around their fabase being in the south and remaining at Mt Smart because of this.

Or it’s just another way to make money? League’s popular everywhere, especially if they are winning. 
Used to be that Mac’s pub, eh. 

That is a possibility but I would have thought they would have looked closer to home for that. 

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I don't know Auckland that well. But have had a couple of short 3-6 month stints there. Last year visiting for a few days, thought I'd try watch the 2nd China verus AWs game at the ROF, at a Mt Eden bar. Tried The Good Home & another nearby.

Problem was at the same time (Sunday arvo) the Warriors (Aussie I think) and Blues (at Eden Park) were both playing. So the bars were playing both those games on their TVs. Not a shark chance they were going to switch to the All Whites. Though I beat all the pakeha adults there - their kids play football of the round ball kind. The Blues were playing literally 500 metre walk away. If you were a Blues fan what were you doing in either of those bars!! My voiced logic on deaf ears.

So yeah the rugby codes still dominate the TV viewership at sports bars it seems. Be interesting if AFC Auckland change that somewhat.
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I don't know Auckland that well. But have had a couple of short 3-6 month stints there. Last year visiting for a few days, thought I'd try watch the 2nd China verus AWs game at the ROF, at a Mt Eden bar. Tried The Good Home & another nearby.

Problem was at the same time (Sunday arvo) the Warriors (Aussie I think) and Blues (at Eden Park) were both playing. So the bars were playing both those games on their TVs. Not a shark chance they were going to switch to the All Whites. Though I beat all the pakeha adults there - their kids play football of the round ball kind. The Blues were playing literally 500 metre walk away. If you were a Blues fan what were you doing in either of those bars!! My voiced logic on deaf ears.

So yeah the rugby codes still dominate the TV viewership at sports bars it seems. Be interesting if AFC Auckland change that somewhat.

Ohhhh yes. The key to being a football fan in Auckland was knowing which bars that had multiple TVs and Sky subscriptions. Mostly The Fox in the end, and then occasionally a back up if there was a UFC event or something like that. Checking ahead was worthwhile. 

My favourite memory of that kind was trying to convince a place with about 4 people in it at 12:45 am to switch from a very under strength Springboks, who were basically a C team, v France in a friendly, to New Zealand v Wales in football. That’s a New Zealand team playing v a match the Springboks clearly didn’t care about. No dice. 
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I imagine the landscape is slowly changing (if glacial) and AFC Auckland will accelerate that change, especially if they have early success. Then closer to the 2026 WC (presuming AWs qualify) there will again be an increase in football awareness.
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Anyone go to BarFifa before FIFA told them off? 
That was in the long ago of the world. 

Shiiite, there’s a long gap between our games. We don’t do a lot of terrestrial TV where you have to wait a week between episodes. I’m badly out of practice. And so worried about this last level and the final boss. 
Was Bar FIFA that place on the corner of New North and Bond which had a kind of terrace for watching games on? I went there to see the Nix lose to Chris Payne's handball in the preliminary final
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Anyone go to BarFifa before FIFA told them off? 
That was in the long ago of the world. 

Shiiite, there’s a long gap between our games. We don’t do a lot of terrestrial TV where you have to wait a week between episodes. I’m badly out of practice. And so worried about this last level and the final boss. 
Was Bar FIFA that place on the corner of New North and Bond which had a kind of terrace for watching games on? I went there to see the Nix lose to Chris Payne's handball in the preliminary final

Dominion Road. It had been a pool hall. It wasn’t a long lasting rebrand. Watched the penalty shootout there…
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However, George clarified that the acquisition does not indicate a shift in venues for the club. 
"No, not at all," he said.

https://www.warriors.kiwi/news/2024/03/15/one-new-zealand-warriors-diversifies-with-purchase-of-kingsland-hospitality-venue/

Well I was wrong. My bad.
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However, George clarified that the acquisition does not indicate a shift in venues for the club. 
"No, not at all," he said.

https://www.warriors.kiwi/news/2024/03/15/one-new-zealand-warriors-diversifies-with-purchase-of-kingsland-hospitality-venue/

Well I was wrong. My bad.

If there are a lot of pubs cleaning up showing Warriors games, perhaps it makes sense for you to get a cut! After all a lot of the NRL clubs have big clubhouse complexes yeh? Restaurants, bars, pokies etc etc 
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However, George clarified that the acquisition does not indicate a shift in venues for the club. 
"No, not at all," he said.

https://www.warriors.kiwi/news/2024/03/15/one-new-zealand-warriors-diversifies-with-purchase-of-kingsland-hospitality-venue/

Well I was wrong. My bad.

If there are a lot of pubs cleaning up showing Warriors games, perhaps it makes sense for you to get a cut! After all a lot of the NRL clubs have big clubhouse complexes yeh? Restaurants, bars, pokies etc etc 
 Cost Autex $10mill to buy the whole building. As well as the pub it includes a Domino's pizza, a restaurant & a motorbike accessories dealership.
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Nth Harbour today! What a fudge up! See today's Herald article: One Council's Bizarre Bid to Destroy a Stadium, writer John Watson, councillor for Albany.
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That is a good article and right on the money. 
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Making it a test cricket venue has some merit. Then yes an independent trust, chasing content - concerts, Moana Pasika Super Rugby games, Crusty Demons, festivals or whatever the rest of the year.

As someone else has been saying who knows what the population of the greater North Shore could be in 20 years. Looking back from 2044, it could be very dumb to pull down NHS now (still only 30 years old?), the only sizeable stadium in the area.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350218793/councillor-pushing-north-harbour-stadium-be-aucklands-test-cricket-venue
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Making it a test cricket venue has some merit. Then yes an independent trust, chasing content - concerts, Moana Pasika Super Rugby games, Crusty Demons, festivals or whatever the rest of the year.

As somone else has been saying who knows what the population of the greater North Shore could be in 20 years. Looking back from 2044, it could be very dumb to pull down NHS now (still only 30 years old?), the only sizeable stadium in the area.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350218793/councillor-pushing-north-harbour-stadium-be-aucklands-test-cricket-venue

Holy crap, given that Colin Maiden Park (on a major train route) has accessibility issues, I don't know what you say about that windswept fortress up in Albania

"“I know people with expertise in cricket and they agree it would make a perfect test venue,” Watson said." - hahahaha, no he doesn't and no they didn't!
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Yeah ideally you'd want a test cricket venue much closer to the CBD. I thought Western Springs was always the preferred option?

But test cricket is a bit unique as a sport. There is no rush to get there for kick off, or the 10.30am first ball delivery. It's a more leisurely arrival knowing you have 6 hours or more play ahead of you to watch, lying on the grass. So if it's a bit further out of town, not the end of the world. Plus you might only go to any test for one or two days, and there might just be one Auckland test a summer. It's sort of oneoff.

Also lots of cricket fans (especially those with kids) like to arrival with the picnic basket & blanket, shade umbrella, kids cricket set etc. That can be a pain in the arse to carry around on the train/bus, so they like the option to drive & park close by. NHS has car parking, but maybe that is the accessibity issue with Colin Maiden a lack of nearby car parks??

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