Legend
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15K
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almost 17 years

the Lia experience arguement is getting a little old and tired - much like him, he's slow, not that good at passing the ball forward. As a squad player I'd be happy to have him around but as a starter? no way!

Marquee
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5.3K
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almost 17 years

theprof wrote:

the Lia experience arguement is getting a little old and tired - much like him, he's slow, not that good at passing the ball forward. As a squad player I'd be happy to have him around but as a starter? no way!

http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/player/vince-lia/...

80% pass accuracy, 42% of passes are forward.

WeeNix
440
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800
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almost 9 years

Seeing plenty of player signings throughout the league so far... I hope I'm not the only one getting itchy feet, would be nice to see a signing pretty soon. 

Legend
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15K
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almost 17 years

Bullion wrote:

theprof wrote:

the Lia experience arguement is getting a little old and tired - much like him, he's slow, not that good at passing the ball forward. As a squad player I'd be happy to have him around but as a starter? no way!

http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/player/vince-lia/...

80% pass accuracy, 42% of passes are forward.

yeh- he's great at hitting those big diagonal cross fielders...

First Team Squad
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1.8K
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over 13 years

Resign him, for sure, but as a squaddie.

Whether or not people like him, he does a job for us and if it comes down to it and injuries do us over, I'd rather have someone like him to slot in instead of a kid.

I wouldn't think there would be too many clubs chasing him either, but I think he should definitely stay

Marquee
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6.8K
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almost 14 years

theprof wrote:

the Lia experience arguement is getting a little old and tired - much like him, he's slow, not that good at passing the ball forward. As a squad player I'd be happy to have him around but as a starter? no way!

I am not disagreeing with what you said but still think Lia should be re-signed.

Lia's strength is not in speed or mobility, but he was an excellent "babysitter" to Riera when he played next to him. I would argue that a lot of Riera's success came from having Lia covering his backside. 

Sure, Lia is older now, but only as old as Durante.

LG
Legend
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24K
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almost 17 years

Lia is never afraid to tackle and often plays with a yellow card begging, yet over the last 2 seasons, his cards have declined markedly. I think another season would be a good thing. This also allows A Rod a chance to fully establish the DM for himself as Lia can be his mentor. With siggy gone, his replacement will be needing to figure out the guys around himself unless A Rod is going to move there with Roly dropping back into DM  ?

TV
On probation
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4.2K
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over 13 years
I wouldnt resign lia. Payne would be worth a shout i think.
Legend
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15K
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almost 17 years

Lonegunmen wrote:

Lia is never afraid to tackle and often plays with a yellow card begging, yet over the last 2 seasons, his cards have declined markedly. I think another season would be a good thing. This also allows A Rod a chance to fully establish the DM for himself as Lia can be his mentor. With siggy gone, his replacement will be needing to figure out the guys around himself unless A Rod is going to move there with Roly dropping back into DM  ?

Is that because they go round him so fast he can't even drag them down? But true Riera has seemed more of a card risk than Lia, but Lia still has had some silly ones

The better Barnes
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360
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over 12 years

With Siggy, Manny, and now Riera gone, I think Lia still has a part to play. Might not necessarily be on game day, but certainly on the training pitch in more of a mentoring role/setting an example for the younger guys. I know from my own experience the value having more experienced team mates who have 'been there and done that' before can't be emphasised enough. Siggy, Riera and Manny leave with 440 games between them, and I don't think we can afford another player with nearly 200 games played to go as well. There needs to be a good mix of experience and youth in the team.

Marquee
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5.6K
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almost 12 years

TV wrote:
I wouldnt resign lia. Payne would be worth a shout i think.

Based on what? the promise he showed as a 17yr old when playing as a striker... or on his efforts playing in the USL that were good enough to not have him resigned.

He has had moments within games, but is yet to have a season at a decent level to suggest signing him would some how improve our lot. I like his engine, but bar for age I fail to see what he offers above and beyond what Lia currently does.

Groundskeeper Willie
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7.5K
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over 16 years
He was okay for ACFC but not special. Played a different role to Riera there as well
Overseas
620
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2.7K
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almost 17 years

Musa is playing mainly as a DM for Saint Louis. I'd sign him before Payne for the midfield role and as a plus he's also a CB.

Marquee
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6.8K
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almost 14 years

martinb wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Lia is never afraid to tackle and often plays with a yellow card begging, yet over the last 2 seasons, his cards have declined markedly. I think another season would be a good thing. This also allows A Rod a chance to fully establish the DM for himself as Lia can be his mentor. With siggy gone, his replacement will be needing to figure out the guys around himself unless A Rod is going to move there with Roly dropping back into DM  ?

Is that because they go round him so fast he can't even drag them down? But true Riera has seemed more of a card risk than Lia, but Lia still has had some silly ones

I am not trying to erect a temple to worship Lia - by a long shot - but I think Lia needs recognition for what he can still offer, which is awareness, vision and positioning, rather than speed, high skill and agility.  It is up to the club to decide if this means a reduced offer or not; but to me Lia's value has increased the moment Riera retired (and the opposite would have been the same).

Marquee
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over 13 years

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
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350
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about 8 years

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

RR
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Bossi Insider
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34K
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almost 16 years

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Spain? We gotta meet the A-League's Spanish quota
JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
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350
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about 8 years

QBoyd wrote:

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

Maybe Hyundai Motors? Looking for a midfield engine?

Marquee
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over 13 years

QBoyd wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

Maybe Hyundai Motors? Looking for a midfield engine?

Rear engine models only please.

One more year and Assistant Manager?

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
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about 8 years

Global Game wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

Maybe Hyundai Motors? Looking for a midfield engine?

Rear engine models only please.

One more year and Assistant Manager?

Shark. I've run out of FFA partner puns. Can't even fashion something out of Qantas.

Marquee
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over 13 years

Maybe Ernie is shopping in Germany. Don't all Germans love NZ? 

Or, how is Michael Fitzgerald going in Japan, is he ready to head home?

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
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about 8 years

Reading the comments section of any AWs highlights if on YT would suggest Mexico isn't a bad shout.

Hola amigos neozelandes! Suck shark!

Marquee
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almost 13 years

Global Game wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

Maybe Hyundai Motors? Looking for a midfield engine?

Rear engine models only please.

One more year and Assistant Manager?

crocked
Marquee
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9.5K
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almost 13 years

The Lia debate is interesting. I personally think he's looked a lot better under Ernie than he ever did under Ricki, and I'd keep him. His passing, positioning and decision making have all improved in the last few years IMO. Wouldn't have him as a starter but brings more than enough too be a useful squad player now Riera has gone

WeeNix
390
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960
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about 11 years

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

Marquee
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almost 13 years

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

I'd drop Krishna for Zlatan personally
JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
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about 8 years

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

When does Marco's contract run out? I have my doubts about whether he'd want to come back, and if he did, he might want to got to MV.

It would work though. WeeMac would be delighted.

WeeNix
390
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960
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about 11 years

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

I'd drop Krishna for Zlatan personally

nah we will sign wood from leeds 

WeeNix
390
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960
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about 11 years

QBoyd wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

When does Marco's contract run out? I have my doubts about whether he'd want to come back, and if he did, he might want to got to MV.

It would work though. WeeMac would be delighted.

i think someone mentioned something about if stuttgart get relegated his contract becomes void?

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
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about 8 years

Joey Johns wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

I'd drop Krishna for Zlatan personally

nah we will sign wood from leeds 

I heard Heskeys a free agent, boy has he got pace!

WeeNix
390
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960
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about 11 years

The Lia debate is interesting. I personally think he's looked a lot better under Ernie than he ever did under Ricki, and I'd keep him. His passing, positioning and decision making have all improved in the last few years IMO. Wouldn't have him as a starter but brings more than enough too be a useful squad player now Riera has gone

would be interesting to know how much lia is on

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
·
about 8 years

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/rojas-wont-retu...

I know it's old, but doesn't bode well for hopes of the second coming

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
·
about 8 years

Joey Johns wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

When does Marco's contract run out? I have my doubts about whether he'd want to come back, and if he did, he might want to got to MV.

It would work though. WeeMac would be delighted.

i think someone mentioned something about if stuttgart get relegated his contract becomes void?

Do u have a source? I can't find it

Marquee
5.3K
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9.5K
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almost 13 years

Joey Johns wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

When does Marco's contract run out? I have my doubts about whether he'd want to come back, and if he did, he might want to got to MV.

It would work though. WeeMac would be delighted.

i think someone mentioned something about if stuttgart get relegated his contract becomes void?

Wait, were serious about bringing him back? I thought it was a joke
Appiah without the pace
6.7K
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19K
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almost 17 years

It was from Wynton Rufer so

JBoyd
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Phoenix Academy
88
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350
·
about 8 years

2ndBest wrote:

It was from Wynton Rufer so

I hope so. I think he'll stay in Europe,but I don't know if that means Stuttgart. It would be gr8 to have him back

Legend
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15K
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almost 17 years

Mainland FC wrote:

martinb wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Lia is never afraid to tackle and often plays with a yellow card begging, yet over the last 2 seasons, his cards have declined markedly. I think another season would be a good thing. This also allows A Rod a chance to fully establish the DM for himself as Lia can be his mentor. With siggy gone, his replacement will be needing to figure out the guys around himself unless A Rod is going to move there with Roly dropping back into DM  ?

Is that because they go round him so fast he can't even drag them down? But true Riera has seemed more of a card risk than Lia, but Lia still has had some silly ones

I am not trying to erect a temple to worship Lia - by a long shot - but I think Lia needs recognition for what he can still offer, which is awareness, vision and positioning, rather than speed, high skill and agility.  It is up to the club to decide if this means a reduced offer or not; but to me Lia's value has increased the moment Riera retired (and the opposite would have been the same).

He can do the Vicelich hold-a-spot-in-the-middle- role from the 2010 WC! No movement required.

WeeNix
390
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960
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about 11 years

Joey Johns wrote:

QBoyd wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

sign musa as defence cover, get rojas on a marquee and use the import on a defender. play an ultra attacking formation of 

marco      krishna      kosta

            finkler    roly

                  alex 

doyle    durante  fox/import   louis/musa 

score alot more goals than the other team.

too easy guys.

When does Marco's contract run out? I have my doubts about whether he'd want to come back, and if he did, he might want to got to MV.

It would work though. WeeMac would be delighted.

i think someone mentioned something about if stuttgart get relegated his contract becomes void?

Wait, were serious about bringing him back? I thought it was a joke

facilities have toilets now so theres a chance.

Marquee
4.5K
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6.8K
·
almost 14 years
QBoyd wrote:
Global Game wrote:
QBoyd wrote:
QBoyd wrote:
Global Game wrote:

We have plenty of midfield options. Priority is defence - now using a visa spot. Where in the world is Ernie shopping?

Westfield?

Maybe Hyundai Motors? Looking for a midfield engine?

Rear engine models only please.

One more year and Assistant Manager?

Shark. I've run out of FFA partner puns. Can't even fashion something out of Qantas.

Clearly your punnery is riding on a wing and a prayer.

3rd XI
140
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2.4K
·
over 14 years

Haven't read this thread for a while . i was hoping for some good new news but it's just same old same old speculation and stupid wishes like getting messi or ronaldo .

We need some new players like yesterday before this thread looses it's credibility completly

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