Same old cultural story. No-one here gave a damn about Crowded House until they were #2 on the US charts.
not relevant as that was pretty much at the start of their career. A better comparison would be the fact that they were a non entity in the UK (where DDIO flopped) until Woodface which really blew up there.
An unfortunate reality is that our best footballers, don't play in NZ.
The best League and Rugby players do - Shaun Johnson gets heaps of coverage as he is a talisman of NZ League right on our door step... If Wood played in NZ, he'd probably get interviewed more regularly etc.
The NIX don't have any "famous players" to generate hype and our local players are solid professionals, but not poster on the wall material.
That's why I am hopeful that the AFC team will make a change - local players will become stars with the increased attention etc.
The only reason our best rugby players are still in NZ is due to rugby's archaic idea of only being in NZ (or Wales or England) if you want to play for your chosen nation.
Every AB would be in Japan/England/France right now if rugby was the same as football, chasing the money while still eligible for the ABs leaving super rugby as a third string comp.
The above comments on NZR requirements are very interesting. I would think that it would help develop quality rugby in other countries if they had ABs playing on contract there while remaining eligible for selection. But that is a good thing for rugby overall, surely, otherwise it is just a fairly predictable domination by maybe three or four nations like forever?
Just before his injury at the Jets game, an interview with Zawada in Polish media sang praises of his scoring form (after several years of quiet mediocrity), and hinted that this would be noticed by the national team selectors. Polish team - over the last few seasons, actually - could not score in a brothel, so this is not setting the bar very high. But the point remains, than an overseas club can improve one's ranking in the national team selection, not hinder it.
Same old cultural story. No-one here gave a damn about Crowded House until they were #2 on the US charts.
not relevant as that was pretty much at the start of their career. A better comparison would be the fact that they were a non entity in the UK (where DDIO flopped) until Woodface which really blew up there.
Crowded house were also an Australian band, they were formed in Australia, based in Australia, and had 50% Australian members.
yep, and they were a self-described Australian band by neil Finn himself iircRyan
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Same old cultural story. No-one here gave a damn about Crowded House until they were #2 on the US charts.
not relevant as that was pretty much at the start of their career. A better comparison would be the fact that they were a non entity in the UK (where DDIO flopped) until Woodface which really blew up there.
Crowded house were also an Australian band, they were formed in Australia, based in Australia, and had 50% Australian members.
A few new voices, including one from TVNZ, at Chiefy's pre-game press conference today. They came with some pretty average questions but it's a start. Perhaps some social media whining about TVNZ's neglect of the Nix has produced results?
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Maybe next season 2024/25. But from 2026 when the shiny new ChCh stadium is completed, I think is a good chance they will take games there. Can see them getting similar crowds there initially of 20,000 plus as the new stadium will be such a drawcard in itself. Plus Nix haven't played there for such a long time now, and there is a bit of a Cantab presence now at the club.
Alot could also depend on what sponsors, they have from next season onwards. A big reason they have regularly taken games to Auckland, is apparently some of their bigger corporate backers (presumably those with an Auckland HO) have required them to.
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Maybe next season 2024/25. But from 2026 when the shiny new ChCh stadium is completed, I think is a good chance they will take games there. Can see them getting similar crowds there initially of 20,000 plus as the new stadium will be such a drawcard in itself. Plus Nix haven't played there for such a long time now, and there is a bit of a Cantab presence now at the club.
Alot could also depend on what sponsors, they have from next season onwards. A big reason they have regularly taken games to Auckland, is apparently some of their bigger corporate backers (presumably those with an Auckland HO) have required them to.
Hmm, I am not so sure about 20K here in ChCh. A good game for the Nix, assuming no competing events on like cricket at the Hagley Oval, might get up to 10K for a one-off game. I would be there, but the core here is relatively smaller than Auckland (population size) or Wellington (loyalty vs novelty).
The problem is that the stadium isn't always available so I can see them taking a game out of Wellington still, purely because of logistics. But, I doubt it will be Auckland, unless it's against Auckland and the revenue is worth the loss of home advantage.
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Maybe next season 2024/25. But from 2026 when the shiny new ChCh stadium is completed, I think is a good chance they will take games there. Can see them getting similar crowds there initially of 20,000 plus as the new stadium will be such a drawcard in itself. Plus Nix haven't played there for such a long time now, and there is a bit of a Cantab presence now at the club.
Alot could also depend on what sponsors, they have from next season onwards. A big reason they have regularly taken games to Auckland, is apparently some of their bigger corporate backers (presumably those with an Auckland HO) have required them to.
Dome had pretty much said this game in Auckland is the last one.
They should have 3 NZ derbies each year. One in Wellington, Auckland and Chch each. That would be amazing. And yes, Chch would totally get close to 20k, at least initially
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Maybe next season 2024/25. But from 2026 when the shiny new ChCh stadium is completed, I think is a good chance they will take games there. Can see them getting similar crowds there initially of 20,000 plus as the new stadium will be such a drawcard in itself. Plus Nix haven't played there for such a long time now, and there is a bit of a Cantab presence now at the club.
Alot could also depend on what sponsors, they have from next season onwards. A big reason they have regularly taken games to Auckland, is apparently some of their bigger corporate backers (presumably those with an Auckland HO) have required them to.
Hmm, I am not so sure about 20K here in ChCh. A good game for the Nix, assuming no competing events on like cricket at the Hagley Oval, might get up to 10K for a one-off game. I would be there, but the core here is relatively smaller than Auckland (population size) or Wellington (loyalty vs novelty).
14,000 turned up to see Siggie score the winner against Adelaide at Lancaster Park in 2010. I'm talking the initial first year at the new stadium. It's gonna be a novelty in itself, and folks will travel from all over (especially other parts of the South Island) for a looksee. From 2026 onwards I'll be timing my ChCh visits with some sort of sporting match at the new ground. I was living in Welly in 2000 when the ROF was all nice & shiny. There was alot of hype.
But yeah as always alot will depend on how the Nix are going at the time. Seems they are going to draw an Eden Park crowd this month 3-4x as large as they drew at Mt Smart back in November, when things were more low key.
They should have 3 NZ derbies each year. One in Wellington, Auckland and Chch each. That would be amazing. And yes, Chch would totally get close to 20k, at least initially
At 14 teams with Canberra & Auckland entering, it's likely to become a proper balanced 26 game H&A regular season. So only 2 derby games. Though they could have annual preseason Charity Cup game between the 2 NZ clubs, and yeah play it in ChCh as an idea.
Considering what everyone says about the media being Auckland centric I think you have to look at the Eden Park game as a potential catalyst. If the Nix go up there and put on an exciting win against Sydney then the media will take notice of that. Then it is fairly easy to follow our march from there and into the finals as there aren't many games left afterwards.
I think ticket sales for Eden park also look good so far, I reckon 4k to 5k sold so far. I think there is a chance at getting close to 20k honestly. Could be a cracker.
Up the Nix 🔥🔥🖤💛
Be a good game to reveal at halftime the "new" Clubs Name , Kit & any signings.
agreed but the Nix would have to okay that first. Not sure they would considering it is their swan song home game for all their fans in Auckland
My gut feeling is the Nix will still take 1 game up to Auckland plus their normal League game with the A League draw. I haven't heard anything but I trust my gut feeling.
Huh. Hadn’t considered that possibility. I guess you’re banking on a loyal fan base from over the years…
Maybe next season 2024/25. But from 2026 when the shiny new ChCh stadium is completed, I think is a good chance they will take games there. Can see them getting similar crowds there initially of 20,000 plus as the new stadium will be such a drawcard in itself. Plus Nix haven't played there for such a long time now, and there is a bit of a Cantab presence now at the club.
Alot could also depend on what sponsors, they have from next season onwards. A big reason they have regularly taken games to Auckland, is apparently some of their bigger corporate backers (presumably those with an Auckland HO) have required them to.
Hmm, I am not so sure about 20K here in ChCh. A good game for the Nix, assuming no competing events on like cricket at the Hagley Oval, might get up to 10K for a one-off game. I would be there, but the core here is relatively smaller than Auckland (population size) or Wellington (loyalty vs novelty).
14,000 turned up to see Siggie score the winner against Adelaide at Lancaster Park in 2010. I'm talking the initial first year at the new stadium. It's gonna be a novelty in itself, and folks will travel from all over (especially other parts of the South Island) for a looksee. From 2026 onwards I'll be timing my ChCh visits with some sort of sporting match at the new ground. I was living in Welly in 2000 when the ROF was all nice & shiny. There was alot of hype.
But yeah as always alot will depend on how the Nix are going at the time. Seems they are going to draw an Eden Park crowd this month 3-4x as large as they drew at Mt Smart back in November, when things were more low key.
Yes, and I was one among the 14,000 and saw the goal close up. The noise from the crowd was deafening. But the reason I am a little cautious is that population of Christchurch has changed hugely since then, and at the games we had here since (WSW, Perth, Adelaide again, and CCM, if I recall), we did not get truly big numbers. Time will tell - it might be a better crowd than I expect, when Nix comes to town next time.
Its a pity that the Nix and the Auckland Whatevers aren't able to play in the Chatham Cup. Imagine the buzz of Melville United knocking over the Auckland Whatevers... or Nix vs AKL final.
And don't say its not possible as the Canadian MLS sides play in the Canadian Cup competition plus the Nix Ressies already play locally.
Its a pity that the Nix and the Auckland Whatevers aren't able to play in the Chatham Cup. Imagine the buzz of Melville United knocking over the Auckland Whatevers... or Nix vs AKL final.
And don't say its not possible as the Canadian MLS sides play in the Canadian Cup competition plus the Nix Ressies already play locally.
it's definately possible, just depends on NZF pulling their head out of their arses. The Nix have teams playing at all levels in Capital football, so why cant they play in the Chatham Cup?
Was another disappointing crowd yesterday. I imagine all of the other A-League sides, with the exception of WU & Macarthur would be getting much better crowds than we are if they were having a season like ours. The Nix had better average crowds as recently as the Rudan season.
Is the club really doing the best it possibly can to attract people to the games? Can they literally not afford to spend any money on advertising to try and get more people along?
I think the Nix need new people and new ideas in their marketing department. Surely there must be some young hungry talented people in that industry who would like to have a go, given how well the Nix are doing on the pitch.
Because if these are the crowds we are getting now, they'd probably easily average less than 5k if we were having a lower mid table season or worse.
I think the 7K was the number of tickets sold. Fair to say we might have had 7.5-8K once you count all other entrants. That is a decent crowd for a small city.
Was another disappointing crowd yesterday. I imagine all of the other A-League sides, with the exception of WU & Macarthur would be getting much better crowds than we are if they were having a season like ours. The Nix had better average crowds as recently as the Rudan season.
Is the club really doing the best it possibly can to attract people to the games? Can they literally not afford to spend any money on advertising to try and get more people along?
I think the Nix need new people and new ideas in their marketing department. Surely there must be some young hungry talented people in that industry who would like to have a go, given how well the Nix are doing on the pitch.
Because if these are the crowds we are getting now, they'd probably easily average less than 5k if we were having a lower mid table season or worse.
7k wasnt bad though, it was just an average crowd, with some of the aussie cricket fans there too,
is the club doing the most it can - pribably not, their online presence is great but is that actualkly generating bums on seats - I suspect a lot of the online fanbase are actually outside of Wellington. There is,as others have noted, no presence in the city at all! But, as has been said earlier, this is a purposeful decision by the cliub to save dollars, and clearly the lack of it hasnt hurt attendances. Would the attendances be higher if it was there? I doubt it. I think we have to be realistice about our crowd expectations, the cost of going out to anything is gonna be $100 for two (minimum) including the tickets. That's mnore than what some can afford. Then there is the plain lack of interest in anything sporting - yes that's right not every kiwi loves sport - I found that hard to swallow but it's true - plus there are so many others non-sporting things to spend your money on. Add to that the actual sporting fanbase is probably more into the Warriors or rugby than the nix. Even in footballing cirlcles the care factor for the aleague is pretty low.
Was another disappointing crowd yesterday. I imagine all of the other A-League sides, with the exception of WU & Macarthur would be getting much better crowds than we are if they were having a season like ours. The Nix had better average crowds as recently as the Rudan season.
Is the club really doing the best it possibly can to attract people to the games? Can they literally not afford to spend any money on advertising to try and get more people along?
I think the Nix need new people and new ideas in their marketing department. Surely there must be some young hungry talented people in that industry who would like to have a go, given how well the Nix are doing on the pitch.
Because if these are the crowds we are getting now, they'd probably easily average less than 5k if we were having a lower mid table season or worse.
I think there were a few events on yesterday like the cricket, newtown festival and dragon boating so that could've played a role. I still think the marketing is not good enough though which hopefully will be able to use the title push for the next few games to really build hype.
Also our biggest crowds have been on a Friday (against MV) and Tuesday (CCM) not sure what games we've had on Saturday and what the crowds were like but I think Sunday 5pm crowds always do the worst.
Its a pity that the Nix and the Auckland Whatevers aren't able to play in the Chatham Cup. Imagine the buzz of Melville United knocking over the Auckland Whatevers... or Nix vs AKL final.
And don't say its not possible as the Canadian MLS sides play in the Canadian Cup competition plus the Nix Ressies already play locally.
it's definately possible, just depends on NZF pulling their head out of their arses. The Nix have teams playing at all levels in Capital football, so why cant they play in the Chatham Cup?
It would ruin the Chatham Cup & make it a boring duopoly. Ruin it's rich history.
And the 8 CPL teams are of course fully pro outfits, closer in level to the MLS clubs. The gulf between the Southern, Central and Northern 'amateur' leagues verus the ALM is vast.
Its a pity that the Nix and the Auckland Whatevers aren't able to play in the Chatham Cup. Imagine the buzz of Melville United knocking over the Auckland Whatevers... or Nix vs AKL final.
And don't say its not possible as the Canadian MLS sides play in the Canadian Cup competition plus the Nix Ressies already play locally.
it's definately possible, just depends on NZF pulling their head out of their arses. The Nix have teams playing at all levels in Capital football, so why cant they play in the Chatham Cup?
It would ruin the Chatham Cup & make it a boring duopoly. Ruin it's rich history.
The Canadian Championship comp is a pretty new comp? Only involves their 8 CPL teams & 3 MLS teams? And the 8 CPL teams are of course fully pro outfits, closer in level to the MLS clubs. The gulf between the Southern, Central and Northern 'amateur' leagues verus the ALM is vast.
Would it ruin it? If the Nix and Auckland team had their reserves teams in them, with maybe restrictions of players allowed in the team.
We really need to put on $20 GA tickets or something similar to get us over the line.. maybe to encourage earlier sales and more tickets could do $15-20 adult tickets up to a week before the game..
Genuinely think this game at Eden Park could crack 25-30k.
We really need to put on $20 GA tickets or something similar to get us over the line.. maybe to encourage earlier sales and more tickets could do $15-20 adult tickets up to a week before the game..
Genuinely think this game at Eden Park could crack 25-30k.
I'd assume the club has looked at this multiuple times, but decided against it. I'd expect it would be down to the need to sell a few thousand more tickets to make up for the lost income from the normal ticket price. Got to remember too that if the GA, gameday ticket price is set at $20 then the season pass price has to drop as well. It also means that the gameday cost increases, more fans, means more food booths need to be open.
The club has in the past stated that reduced ticket prices, or even giving away free tickets, does not automatically result in higher uptake and attendance, at least not enough to justify it.
At the end of the day a product should have a certain value/worth that people need to pay for to enjoy. Lowering the price, lowers the value and perception of the product too.
Running a football club is after all a very costly exercise. And I'm happy we have pro football in the country to support.
Driving home after the game, switching radio stations, land upon the 10pm news on ZB. Had a lengthy sports bulletin, reporting on 4 Super Rugby games, 3 domestic cricket games, pole vaulting & shot put but not a word about the Nix game that had finished 2 hours before, before a far bigger crowd than would have been in attendance for any of the events they did mention. Disheartening. Wonder how much chat there would be about football if Piney wasn't on that station.
What would be nice if the Nix decide to continue to take games elsewhere, would be to revisit Napier with one of them. That was the best bus trip with Nix fans ever. Grown ups, kids everyone on board had a good time. Hell by the time we got to Paraparaumu I had to slow down on the Cody's. A few others got semi tanked too but no one display of disrespectful behaviour from anyone. Road Trip, Road Trip. Make it happen Domey.
