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Bertos

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
theprof wrote:

intersting coment about leo in the article on stuff

"Nancarrow said Leo Bertos was the most remarkable athlete at the club. "As soon as he's finished a beep test he could do it again. He's a freak. His rate of recovery is unbelievable."
 
so Leo is a fitness freak, and should be able to run a lot harder than he currently does - so he's just a lazy arse??
 
He's good at the beep test but apparently crap at the honk test.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sthn.jeff wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Hmm hes got the best fitness/recovery rate, yet he gets subbed most games.

He should be pressing the back line with hi pace. Ward has started to give him some decent service I think.

Also, Last week, he ended up playing sole striker and greeny played further back. Think Leo a ctually looks quite good as a cou nterattacking player. Can out pace people so he should make the most of it
I dunno .... people talk about his perceived pace.... how often does he  use it if he has it? I struggle to recall to many times when he has gone past a defender with pace, taken the ball to the bi line and whipped in a pin poit cross....??
 
I agree...he looks positively pedestrian at times. After a brief run then proceeds to just saunter around

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
so he's lazy!, we all been told he's fit enought and fast enough to be the winger we want and yet he rarely gives us the 90 minutes we deserve.....

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Back off mate.Tonights the night.Leo to back himself 1st time, every time
Fingers crossed

                                                                        COYN    

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hamezilla wrote:
Back off mate.Tonights the night.Leo to back himself 1st time, every time
Fingers crossed
hmm didnt quite happen....Bertos is maybe a luxury we cant afford given our current situation...or Tim Brown for that matter

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
midfield seems to be our biggest issue, bertos, daniel seems ot be off the pace, lia, brown too

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yep just not happening.
your move ricki
 

                                                                        COYN    

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dairyflat wrote:
Dwyer wrote:
To open another can of worms connected to this one, and not just Leo Bertos...
 
But us pulling the trigger... Quite often someone will make a break, maybe have one defender and the goal keeper and an opportunity to shoot and we just hold it up.<snip>


Interesting question. I've seen this many times with many teams. I always end up asking it Is it a perceived fault or is it reality? I remember being at Goodison ( in the mid 80s) and this was the question being asked. I'd just got back there and thought they were using their chances well but the crowd about were really getting on their backs....   Mmm....  I remember thinking that is was it familiarity breeding contempt...  is it the same here?   much to ponder....

 
Yeah someone told me stats wise for the league we are a solid last for having attempts at goal, though the chances are there, we just won't pull the trigger.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leo Bertos is a lemon.
That is the best way to describe him.
His goal contribution is not great.
He cannot cross from the right (normally gets cut out at the near post) or he hits the defender in front of him.
I don't think he had shot on goal at the world cup.
He has some pace but really if he was any good, then the world cup would've seen him signed up. What happen nothing. He is not a true two footed player and drops his shoulder when he feints to the left, easy to read and cut out.
He is not strong enough in the air or has the ability to hold the ball to be a real wolrd class player..
 
You will see this against the South American teams, how good Leo is.
 
Not very ....
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I mostly agree, but to be fair I'm not sure that anyone got a shot on goal at the world cup. At all. Somehow the ball just ended up in the back of the net twice, which was awesome
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Has Leo really opened a cafe in Manners Mall called Caffee Zoro next to Burger King?  Anyone checked it out?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I thought Leo was our man of the match against the heart. And I thought the rousing reception he got when he walked around in front of bays 20 - 25 when he was subbed off showed that a lot of people thought he'd had a good game.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Great 2nd half. One of his best.


Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think Bertos had a great game and to be honest I think it saved us against the heart.  Top technical ability just lacks confidence at times.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Chevelle wrote:
I think Bertos had a great game and to be honest I think it saved us against the heart.


Leo had a great game, but the wind saved us against the Heart.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Chevelle wrote:
I think Bertos had a great game and to be honest I think it saved us against the heart.� Top technical ability just lacks confidence at times.
I reckon leos problem is he has too much confidence, trying to beat players when, lets be honest, he isnt that good at it instead of crossing the ball
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
threat wrote:
Chevelle wrote:
I think Bertos had a great game and to be honest I think it saved us against the heart.  Top technical ability just lacks confidence at times.
I reckon leos problem is he has too much confidence, trying to beat players when, lets be honest, he isnt that good at it instead of crossing the ball


I think its the exact opposite. He always tracks back on decent attacking situations.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
think when he was playing in the 343 he didnt know what to do. similar in the all whites situation, he didnt want to overcommit to the attack when he knew he'd have to get back and defend at some point.

in the 442 he knows he has more freedom and expresses his creativity a whole lot more.


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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Someone chase Leo with a knife so he knows what its like to RUN with the ball again.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
his game needs to be simplified and he needs to start running down the right channels again.  having him drift around the field behind the front line doesn't do much for him or the team.

he's got good attributes, but struggles to consistently cross well on the move, which reduces the effect of his speed.  this is especially the case when he is playing on the left.

i reckon he could be devastating in the a-league, but is not played correctly
reg222010-10-29 13:25:47

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
reg22 wrote:
his game needs to be simplified
 
Leo:
 
1.  Take three LESS step overs than you normally do before you try and beat your man.
2.  Look up to see who/where you are crossing to.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Do one of two things Leo.
 
Either:
 
( a ) Run at, past, around or through the defenders and get into the penalty area and force the defenders to bring you down, winning a penalty
 
OR
 
( b ) Look up to see who/where you are crossing to, and cross it.
 
Please don't run at, past, around or through the defenders and then cross it without looking up just before you get into the box.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doesn't look like Leo's coming back this season ....

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/SportsNews/spsoc/Detail.aspx?id=189809
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
George Kostanza wrote:
Doesn't look like Leo's coming back this season ....

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/SportsNews/spsoc/Detail.aspx?id=189809


heard this

i know he hasnt played well this season, but still a big loss

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't think it'lll effect us unless Rojas or Ward get injured or suspended.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We haven't even missed him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rather see him come back next season itching to get back into it, than coming back and doing a half-assed effort as has been of late.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Been a bit of a passenger this season...havent misssed him at all

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If that's Leo's season good luck to him with the recovery.Sounds to be like Tony Lochead's injury and may take as long to recover from.
Hope he comes back with the same spark that Lochead has been showing since he got back. 

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
RedGed wrote:
If that's Leo's season good luck to him with the recovery.Sounds to be like Tony Lochead's injury and may take as long to recover from.
Hope he comes back with the same spark that Lochead has been showing since he got back. 
Agree. Seems to have lost a bit of confidence as well. He was brilliant at the start of last season but then dropped off and has never got back to that standard.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
paullt wrote:
Been a bit of a passenger this season...havent misssed him at all


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmuyj4HtZWg   [/QUOTE] 
 
 
 
Steve-O2011-01-29 13:47:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
today's Dom has him in the squad for tomorrow

so ...?
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Gooner 4 Life wrote:
RedGed wrote:
If that's Leo's season good luck to him with the recovery.Sounds to be like Tony Lochead's injury and may take as long to recover from.Hope he comes back with the same spark that Lochead has been showing since he got back.�


Agree. Seems to have lost a bit of confidence as well. He was brilliant at the start of last season but then dropped off and has never got back to that standard.


world cup hangover excuse??   Does this rule him out of the China/Japan friendlies too?

PS - anyone been to Caffe Zorro yet?
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
funnily enough I wandered past cafe zorro in manners st and saw him in the window. if he plays again he would need serious injections so glad he is resting up.

didn't try the coffee, but no doubt it will be good.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sir les wrote:
funnily enough I wandered past cafe zorro in manners st and saw him in the window. if he plays again he would need serious injections so glad he is resting up.didn't try the coffee, but no doubt it will be good.


Cafe Zorro does THE BEST hot chocolates in the WORLD.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sir les wrote:
funnily enough I wandered past cafe zorro in manners st and saw him in the window. if he plays again he would need serious injections so glad he is resting up.didn't try the coffee, but no doubt it will be good.


Liam who is their barrista does a great job and is also a wicked dude. Pity they use vittoria!
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tpmyhill wrote:
sir les wrote:
funnily enough I wandered past cafe zorro in manners st and saw him in the window. if he plays again he would need serious injections so glad he is resting up.didn't try the coffee, but no doubt it will be good.


Liam who is their barrista does a great job and is also a wicked dude. Pity they use vittoria!


He's great, he didn't even know me and while he was making my hot chocolate he chatted away to me like we were friends. Great service.
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