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Best phoenix striker on his own?

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Best phoenix striker on his own?
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interesting to know what everyone thinks... this one gets discussed all the time...
 
gimme the boot if this poll's been done before big boss men
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rojas

I LOVE LAMP

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George. He was simply played out position when he was here. More of a disgrace than the way Kosta was treated imo.

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Defiantely Royce Brownlie!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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K. Dodd


IBTS.
E + R + O

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How do you edit polls? I want to change the title to the same wording as the question 'when playing just one striker, who is our best option?'

 
just to eliminate any possible confusion...
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we shouldn't play one striker, however I picked Ifill
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haha, I was thinking of picking Greenie, for laughs, but i didn't. Ifill for me, D-Mac needs to prove himself, he's scored goals, but he has been a donkey previously.
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we shouldn't play one striker, however I picked Ifill
 
this is what i would assume to be most people's opinion on here
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Voted for Ifill. As long as he stays central. You don't want him out doing stuff on the flanks 40 m out from goal. He should be the finisher not the creator.
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Hes alowed to be the finished now that rojas and ward have their mojo! Hurry up and get well paul!
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Ifill drifts back to midfield and we end up with no striker.
 
As much as it pains me...D-Mac

Allegedly

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surely ifill is experienced enough to not drift into midfield if thats what the manager tells him?
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Not based on what I've seen when he has been lone striker this season.
 
But would I have him up front with a partner? Hell yes. That is where he is most effective for our side.
Tegal2011-01-11 13:53:40

Allegedly

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agree with Tegal on this one, often when Ifill is up front we end up playing with 6 in the midfield and noone upfront. D-Mac for mine.
 
 
corrected.
theprof2011-01-11 15:28:30

Queenslander 3x a year.

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ifill's only started 6 games for us as lone striker by my reckoning, correct me if im wrong

tough to say he drops deep 'too often' considering we only lost 2 of those games (1-3 at sydney, 0-2 at GC)
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That doesn't mean he doesnt drop too deep. It just means we won those games.

I like ifill up front,it means he gets more involved in our play,and means we aren't 2 dimensional (not all our play is down the wing followed by a rubbish cross).

But he does drop deep when up front,it's his natural inclination. Not ideal with 1 up front,but perfect when 2 up front..he gets involved in midfield while still providing support as greenacres (or whoevers) striking partner.

So 2 strikers I'd have greenacre (maybe d Mac on current form) and ifill
1 striker I'd have macalister.

Allegedly

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If we play ward/rojas as creative options I think Ifill/Dmac would work best up front. Ifill taking grennies place unfortunately.

Assuming you want Tim, Manny & a Back Four.

Otherwise solo... Ifill but don't I guess is the point, he's just so classy you'd play him anywhere hehe.
raynes2011-01-11 16:13:58
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fair points tegal
 
personally, when squad fully fit, i'd prefer a 4-3-3 with ifill supported by rojas/ward up front
 
lia/brown/manny all in midfield
 
However thats a whole other can of worms that's already been smashed open and thrown into a high powered fan on other threads round here so i'll leave it alone now :)
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Ifill by a country mile- the others you can't even mention in the same breath.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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ifill first, daylight second.
 
That 2nd minute miss/tap in by Mac on sunday was a howler.
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see i wasnt so gutted about that d mac effort... from what i saw he was really stretching just to reach it
thought it was more bad luck that it went straight at the keeper rather than terrible placement
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If he stays up front in a striker's position, then Ifill easily.

But even commentators of previous games have noted Ifill tends to drop back to get the ball, getting surrounded, then leaving us with nobody up front to take the ball he sometimes manages to pass.

He's great when he's on form, but when he's surrounded by two players against the sideline near halfway (as happened in previous game he played sole striker), he aint going to do much.
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Ifill drifts wide but is still our best option, no doubt. I actually think he holds it up better than Macallister most of the time.

a.haak

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Smeltz
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Tim Brown.

Although I voted for Ifill.
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I haven't seen much of Pav, to be fair, so it's hard to say how he'd go. Ifill hands down.
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Pav
Gotta Be
You know we belong together...

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raynes wrote:


If we play ward/rojas as creative options I think Ifill/Dmac would work best up front. Ifill taking grennies place unfortunately.Assuming you want Tim, Manny & a Back Four.Otherwise solo... Ifill but don't I guess is the point, he's just so classy you'd play him anywhere hehe.
This.

                    Vuksta

               Dura        Sigs
North                               Troy

                 Manny
                         Tim
    Ward                             Rojas

               Ifill
                      D-Mac
Reecey
Lia
Daniel
Greenacre

Get fit fast Iffy.Oska2011-01-13 02:57:25
You know we belong together...

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http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=38095
you'd think the author would edited Big Mac's last comment out before before publishing.


Macallister hitting peak form
Thursday, 13 January 2011
by Emma Stoney, Sportal

They say timing is everything and Dylan Macallister has certainly rediscovered his goal-scoring mojo at just the right time for the Wellington Phoenix.

The big target man has netted four times in the past seven matches. While he scored his first of the season in a losing cause against Sydney at the start of December his other goals have come in wins against Newcastle Jets (4-0) and Melbourne Victory (2-0) and more importantly earned his side a valuable away point in the recent 1-1 draw with North Queensland Fury.

"To be in the team and playing well is what you want as a footballer so yeah I�m really happy personally and I think we're playing some really good football at the moment and it's good timing coming into the finals," Macallister said.

It is no co-incidence that Macallister finds himself scoring goals regularly again just as the Phoenix start a late-season resurgence of their own with three wins, two losses and a draw in their last six outings.

The absence of the injured Paul Ifill has not hampered them as much as it might have thanks to teenage livewire Marco Rojas, who has tormented sides with his pace, ball skills and delivery into the box.

"To have a player like him out on the wings is great for the kind of job I do as a striker," said Macallister. "I need good delivery into the box and he has been providing that."

"I've been getting the same from the other side from Nick Ward and Leo Bertos as well."

"The way we are playing at the moment really suits me and we've been quite successful."

It hasn't always been like that for Macallister or Wellington this season.

After plenty of game time early on Macallister found himself on the outer as coach Ricki Herbert tinkered with his formation and squad when the results failed to come.

And the 28-year-old Australian admitted it had been a frustrating period for him.

"Personally I thought I started off the year quite well but I just couldn't get that first goal," he said.

"I played the first few games and then he (Herbert) wanted to change the way we were playing so I was out of the team and I felt pretty hard done by."

"But I've just tried to stay positive and keep training really hard and it's paying dividends now."

"I've been reasonably fit and injury-free so it's just hard work and a little bit of luck too."

Wellington may need a little bit more of that luck to make the play-offs this year. They are currently eighth, but just two points behind the sixth-placed Jets, and are in a four-way battle with Victory, Jets and Melbourne Heart for a coveted top six spot.

The Phoenix's run-in includes home games against Perth Glory and the Jets and away trips to Adelaide United and Sydney, while this Sunday's trip to Brisbane has been postponed due to the floods in Queensland.

"There are a couple of really big games for us now. It's so tight in that fifth and sixth position we really need to keep pushing forward," the striker said.

Sunday's 1-0 loss to Central Coast was a bit of a set-back, particularly when Macallister had a great chance to score in the opening minute.

"Anywhere else it would have been a goal. It was a great save in the end. He just stuck out a hand � that happens," said a phlegmatic Macallister

"We went to sleep for two minutes, not even that, and they scored. Good teams are going to punish you like that."

"It will be the same this weekend against Brisbane. They are a passing team and if we�re not switched on for the 90 minutes they are going to punish us."
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haha, I was thinking of picking Greenie, for laughs, but i didn't. Ifill for me, D-Mac needs to prove himself, he's scored goals, but he has been a donkey previously.
 
"Previously"?? He's a nice guy to chat too, he's slow, has a turning circle of a Wellington Bus, cant really control a ball, scored from a miss kick and set up Marco in the same fashion. In the last three games in which he's played, I'd love to know how many chances were set up for him to score those three goals. At least 15 clear cut goals. Ifill would have cried at some of those.
 
I like Dillon but I was surprised at his lack of control. I'm gonna call him "EEEEEAAAAAWWW" at games. Sure I am happy when he scores and this name will be used out of liking him and in humour, not as a sarcastic put down.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
haha, I was thinking of picking Greenie, for laughs, but i didn't. Ifill for me, D-Mac needs to prove himself, he's scored goals, but he has been a donkey previously.
 
"Previously"?? He's a nice guy to chat too, he's slow, has a turning circle of a Wellington Bus, cant really control a ball, scored from a miss kick and set up Marco in the same fashion. In the last three games in which he's played, I'd love to know how many chances were set up for him to score those three goals. At least 15 clear cut goals. Ifill would have cried at some of those.
 
I like Dillon but I was surprised at his lack of control. I'm gonna call him "EEEEEAAAAAWWW" at games. Sure I am happy when he scores and this name will be used out of liking him and in humour, not as a sarcastic put down.
 
Has anyone kept 'conversion' stats on our strikers over the years? 
I suspect Smeltz' rate of shots-on-goal to goals-scored would be impressive. 
 
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scribbler wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
haha, I was thinking of picking Greenie, for laughs, but i didn't. Ifill for me, D-Mac needs to prove himself, he's scored goals, but he has been a donkey previously.

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"Previously"?? He's a nice guy to chat too, he's slow, has a turning circle of a Wellington Bus, cant really control a ball, scored from a miss kick and set up Marco in the same fashion. In the last three games in which he's played, I'd love to know how many chances were set up for him to score those three goals. At least 15 clear cut goals. Ifill would have cried at some of those.

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I like Dillon but I was surprised at his lack of control. I'm gonna call him "EEEEEAAAAAWWW" at games. Sure I am happy when he scores and this name will be used out of liking him and in humour, not as a sarcastic put down.

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Has anyone kept�'conversion'�stats on our strikers over the years?�

I suspect Smeltz' rate of shots-on-goal to�goals-scored would be impressive.�

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http://www.goldcoastunited.com.au/default.aspx?s=aleague_profile&pid=1471&tid=282
Here you go
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Smeltz is 1 goal for every 4 shots, pretty good I reckon

Ifill is 1 in 9, Greenie 1 in 7, Big Mac 1 in 7 and  Brown 1 in 6

Give it to Brownie  LOL
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Bullion wrote:
scribbler wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
haha, I was thinking of picking Greenie, for laughs, but i didn't. Ifill for me, D-Mac needs to prove himself, he's scored goals, but he has been a donkey previously.

 





"Previously"?? He's a nice guy to chat too, he's slow, has a turning circle of a Wellington Bus, cant really control a ball, scored from a miss kick and set up Marco in the same fashion. In the last three games in which he's played, I'd love to know how many chances were set up for him to score those three goals. At least 15 clear cut goals. Ifill would have cried at some of those.

 

I like Dillon but I was surprised at his lack of control. I'm gonna call him "EEEEEAAAAAWWW" at games. Sure I am happy when he scores and this name will be used out of liking him and in humour, not as a sarcastic put down.

 



Has anyone kept 'conversion' stats on our strikers over the years? 

I suspect Smeltz' rate of shots-on-goal to goals-scored would be impressive. 

 

http://www.goldcoastunited.com.au/default.aspx?s=aleague_profile&pid=1471&tid=282
Here you go
Cheers!
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