Broken Wings vs Phoenix - Match Thread.

Gamba Osaka and location in China.  Brave...

Thats Huk-sue-seo.

He plays for the Jets now... so i dont know he might be he couldve transferred, plz correct me if you know more on this!

Man, you should have seen my Dad when Zuna was offside for that second goal. I honestly thought he was going to smash the TV! I'm glad it evened out in the end because while the Jet's first goal was quality, they didn't deserve the second. It was an absolutely shocking call by the ass. ref. A draw is a result I can be happy with. Also nice to see us not playing like ass.   Lose all this pussy fancy sh*t in the middle and just play a simple game. Overcomplicating things just costs us the game.

Man, totally hated that Sydney commentator though. Not only was his voice annoying, but he was just soooo biased we actually muted the TV.

Read the posts.

Hyuk-Su Seo is the clogs Right back who got El**ch sent off.

Song from Newcastle joined them at the very end of last season and I suspect that is the first time we've played against him.

Yeah, i was outraged too at Zuras offside position.... the bias was horrible

Andy Harper proved that he is a biased disgrace, any guess what City he played much of his NSL football in ?

Did you think he was bias News? I think most of Courtenay place heard you abusing him mate!

I accept I may have got a little worked up... 

It was clearly offside. We've been penalised for worse at home, so I'm fine with blasting the ref on this one.

Also, even though it came off Dodd, it was still a pretty decent shot from that range. Still, you're right about how Paston stopping it otherwise. He's really proving his worth. :)

EDIT: Uh... I mean penalised for less... Donutta2008-10-06 21:51:26

Have people read the NZPA report that is on the Herald website as well as stuff? They called Gaos penalty controversial...... I couldn't hear exactly as was to busy screaming but even Andy Harper wasn't concerned about the Gao pen was he?

Laughed when the rain came down in the last few minutes and News yelled out "It's a sign"

Just come home from a meeting that started when we were down 2 - 1

So I am very happy to have the draw, I dont care about how we got it, whether it was a rugby league tackle or handbags at 10 paces.

Thought we played ok in the first half, good commitment and taking it to them more up front.

I think Gao is always worth it because after he beats the first tackle, and he is one of the few in the team who can do that, the defense get a bit desparate and he is always a chance for a foul against him. I would like to see him play further up for that reason

I thought a draw was a fair result. The heat and humidity definitely took it out of our guys which made everyone lethargic later on. Jets used a lot more long ball than us in open play and looked more dangerous on the counter attack IMO (mind you their second goal was via long ball...) 
I noticed Durante liked to hoof it up the park quite often as well

In fairness he has played in his preferred position the once, and there would likely have scored but got flagged incorrectly for offside.

I didn't see enough of the game today, but the lineup said he was being pushed into a more upfront role again . Or some damn odd thing with him and Smeltz behind Covs.

Found myself saying the same things over and over again to the TV because of Andy f**king Harper.

Comments such as ' Oh f**k off you tit '

to

'What a f**king w**ker'

He is so biased its unbelievable, but then again Aus commentators are as a result of their over-inflated ego's.

Wank f**king wank over Pim Verbeek. He's at almost every f**king game in the league, do we need to see his ugly mug 6 times each game?!

Johnny Cash wrote a Song about Seo I think.

Calm down,it is an Aussie comp after all. Some people were complaining he wasn't showing enough respect to the A-League 6 months ago.
Whenever Fabio Capello turn up to an EPL match the cameras zoom in on him.Traitor2008-10-07 00:41:01

But the point is they get paid too make the correct call and have linesman. Players get paid to put performances on the park and referees shouldnt be ano different.

You say yourself that the goal was poor defending. Playing the game at a professional level is difficult yet you critise the players for that, but use it as an excuse for the ref?

That seems a tad inconsistent to me?Gangsta!2008-10-07 01:16:54

I think we definately used more long ball than the Jets. I'll have to watch it again but I remember getting pretty frustrated as the long ball didn't work once.

Just finished watching the game. Love the commitment but, jesus, our attack is LAME. It's very frustrating to see us a goal down yet incapable of launching any kind of attack. For god sake someone run at the defence and HAVE A SHOT!

Guys, just a small reality check.. the Jets were missing 7 (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) first choice players... I was expecting a win. Granted the conditions were difficult but apart from Mulligan (who isn't first choice these days anyway) we had a full strength squad out there. It's those games you must take to climb the ladder (especially as there were 2 draws this round). 

I thought it was great to see such commitment from the team last night. For large parts of the game that the Phoenix were the better team out there and Tim Brown was a stand out for me in center midfield, he was tough, uncompromising and won us a lot of ball. He also did not take a backward step all game.

Happy with a point away, but I really do feel we should have won.

I think the critism of Kwasnik here is unfair.

But do agree to get rid of Coveny and Johnson

Every week I rabbit on about Johnson and Coveny being past it and undeserving of a starting spot, why the f**k isn't Ferrante starting alongside Brown, does Ricki really think Johnno can provide our midfield spark? One of Kwasnik and Coveny should be on the bench, the other left out of the squad, that's my opinion and has been for weeks.

Oska, I think that's most peoples opinion.  I couldn't agree more.

If not Ferrante on then Daniel, but Daniel hasn't looked too sh*t hot.

To their credit at least they're actually calling us Wellington now...

I agree that Brown & Ferrante should be the central midfield, people are saying that we were weak on attack but if it weren't for the post once and nearly the post a second time, we had two low shots that beat Covic and should have been goals.

Great to see Brown shooting, after two games he's got a couple of solid shots away and a goal as well.  We saw in Bertos' last game when he was pushed up into a forwards position that he has a decent shot as well and isn't afraid of shooting, when he returns to match fitness I do hope Ricki gives him a chance to pair with Smeltz since he's got a lot of pace and a decent shot on him.  You can say that he's more a wing cos of all his assists at Glory, but they play him on the wing which he does well but it doesn't mean he can't and won't score goals if played forward.

If Brown can keep getting good shots like that every game its going to lift his confidence and the team's.  We're guilty of looking for one too many balls in the attacking third sometimes and sure Smeltz is producing a lot of goals but once the other players start taking their own shots Smeltz should get more space and less pressure.


I feel we fell off the pace after the first penalty, perhaps the boys aren't used to scoring first and protecting a lead? :P  The Jets subs really were telling though, they injected new flavour and pace earlier than Ricki did and that helped shift the momentum.  I'm glad we pulled it back for a point at the end though.

Smeltz and Covs up front have produced 4 goals in 2 games (including 2 away goals).  Let's not forget that.

Tim Brown and Ferrante together would be a little deep for my liking. If we are having those two in the centre then I'd be pushing Ferrante way further upfield. But hell it'd be better than Johnson at least. No excuse whatsoever for playing Johnson ahead of Ferrante. Think Brown is the real deal in midfield, he looks great.
A diamond formation with Brown as DM and Daniel as AM could work as well? Could swap in Ferrante for either position too.

What's Covs got to do with Smeltzy's headder against Bling or Browns long range blast? Nothing.
He also didn't do anything to assist Gao in winning the penalty and therefore apart from going down to win our first pen last night he hasn't had much to do with our goals at all.

Its hard to argue with the facts, 4 goals in two games with Smeltz and Covs as a combo....we are playing much better because of their leadership.