Coaching Angst (it's one result away)

Coaching Angst (it's one result away)

I think its time. he talks about improvement and that sh*t. enough is enough we have the same problems as last year WORST but we have better players. it just has to be the coach. its much easier to replace one coach then 20 players

Agreed. The most over-rated coach ever.

Who do you suggest as replacement? Ross A, Stu Jacobs...

Coach and players have to show something. Is it Ricki who is selecting the teams? Or is he listening too much to the 'leadership' group?

Perth had a plan and it worked. It didn't really seem like we had a plan this time. Midfield missing in action. Dodd and Brown two men to potentially make a difference there.

FFS and what the players are not in any way responsible for this.Think you are kidding yourselves if you think thats going to fix things.

well just wondering when Durante comes out with a post-mortem in the media and says we'll stick to 442 for the next couple of weeks.

Ricki needs to put his talisman status back in order

Last week was apparently a line in the sand.  Well, guess what?  The tide just came in and we're back to square one. 

5 wins out of 26. Sack him.

The pressure is certainly on but how did he get that UEFA licence then?

did a course

But if it was easy then everyone would be able to get it he must be good at something.

im sorry to say it but i think its time for those retro ricki shirts to go to the bottom of the wardrobe and terry and tony look else where

indeed. he is going to have to be very good to win back our faith in him after this start. I think he can do it, but he needed to start yesterday.

I think all we really need is a better gameplan and formation

we are really lacking any incisive play, instead preferring to pass around the back for and cdms

i think we need to not play 4-2-3-1 and have an extra forward , possibly costa to give us more options going forward, frankly kwasnik and hearfield have failed to impress going forward...

we need to take more a risk against sydney and try to play aggressive football rather than the try not to concede and hope you sneak one tactic we currently have

maybe not a sacking but definitely an overhaul in tactics, as mentioned previously 5 from 26, even in our first two seasons is rubbish... we need to compete more

I hate to admit it but it may be time.His lineups and formations are so frustrating and to make it worse his substiutions are at very odd times,either too early or too late.And they dont make sense half the time.i.e tim brown an 85th min sub for the 2nd week in a row.Hes a holding midfielder!Get him on earlier if you want to change the flow of it!

felipe2008-09-21 21:29:04

He seriously has too go, I mean the way we are playing, and against Perth we were never going to get anything out of that game. The question is who will replace him? 

Robbie Deans....


(opps, pressed the enter key and it posted!)

but seriously, there was so much promise in pre season; how has it all turned to custard so quickly? Well the answer to that has been mooted and debated with these forum pages vigorously already and frankly it is starting to get tiresome seeing the same arguments surface time and time again.

If we have a lucky run of 3 wins in a row, then what will we be saying on here? Same old? Or steer the course and see where it takes us?

Most people don't understand football 'fever' because they don't know what it is to have faith. It's all very well to have the tallet, the resources and the support but if the team and/or the supports faith starts to dwindle then; well the table speaks for itself.

We all know that there will be one day when a New Zealand football team will not finish at the bottom of this league. Maybe it is blind faith that makes us believe this...

With all this in mind, maybe in a game or two it might be time for our coach to step aside - even for a game or two to see how things run. It might reignite that faith; and inspire our defence to do something sensible for a change!


A win against Sydney might change everything...
mikecj2008-09-21 21:43:52

Yeh, I've not been sure whether to wear my Wgtn till I Die shirt or last years Retro shirt.  Now I have no problem in deciding.  I hope Tony has been given the instruction "Start searching"  Hey, what's Kevin Keegan doing, he'd make a good Marquee Coach. LOL

Are you saying 4-1-3-2 that could work if the extra one up front is a real striker not Hearfield or Kwasnik.

Im a Notts County fan and we sack our managers more than Newcastle do...

I have reasons for why I want Ricki to go. I don't get his tactics, his substituions or selection.

WHY did he start Mulligan when Sigmund clearly is the better choice? Why is Hearfield playing behind Smeltz?! He is not creative. His best asset is his pace, so why not off Smeltz's shouldr? It doesn't f**king make sense. He says his team plays football, they f**king don't, its route 1 hoofball. He plays Johnson wasnt good at the NZK, partnered with Ferrante who is a headless chicken.

Substitutions... wtf. Why are we subbing Mulligan for Siggy after 86 mins when we're 1-0 down. WHATS THE f**kING POINT IN THAT?!!!!!!!!! It doesn't achieve anything, its pointless. Sub him at half time if you've started him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its getting beyond ridiculous, its worse than watching the NZK.


Wolfben2008-09-21 21:41:28

Whitby boy2008-09-21 21:47:21

Hate to say this but I think I have to agree with the complaints about Ricki. I don't know what the answer is, a lot may come down to the actual alternatives that are available but at the moment things are not looking good.

At times it looked like we were playing for the draw for an example bringing sigmund on for mulligan very defensive and we were 1 nil behind.

if we really were playing for a draw against the bottom placed team (at the time) in the league, away or not, then that is pathetic

I don't think we were playing for a draw, I just think we had absolutely no clues what to do in the attacking half.

Whitbyboy...relating a 1-0 loss to perth,to football club schizophrenia is just plain retarded.

Your using peoples passion and rage from a loss to get them to support your view on something completely unrelated...

Give me a shot. I wear styley specs, I can gesticulate WELL, speak ( more or LESS) three languages, look (in the dark) vaguely continental....

C'mon! What's the worst that could happen??

and what about the commentaor saying covs lashed out a bit at ricky's coaching?Any1 back that up?

Coach changes mid-season are, generally speaking, cosmetic and psychological. They're a statement to the fans and the rest of the footballing fraternity that the club is not satisfied with the performance on the field and will not tolerate the status quo any longer. But the reality is that whoever the new coach is, he still gets stuck with the same group of players and doesn't get much time to instill his/her coaching philosophy. So the chances are, even if we sacked Ricky and brought in someone like Stu Jacobs for example, the team's fortunes may improve slightly, but the chances are things would probably remain more of the same rather then go exceptionally well.

So the question is, does the Phoenix management feel that it's time to make that psychological statement to the fans and the rest of the league? I'm personally still undecided, but this situation can't go on for much longer. It's not good for the club, and it's even worse for football in this country.

its all good everybody saying that the nix should sack ricky h but wat it really comes down to is who will replace him?? we definatly dont hav a better coach from nz? and with the two new teams in the a league next year it may be hard to find an aussie coach who is "better" than ricky h. yes maybe a marquee coach as such would be the best idea but does anybody really think a coach from eurpoe etc will want to fly half way round the world to coach a team in the a league?

Yes in the sunday news: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaynews/4700085a19778.htmlwellyphoenixfan2008-09-21 21:56:29

Check the front page of this website.

apologies.My eyes hurt

He's saying what all the supporters are thinking/saying really, short of calling Johnson useless

Need to change your sig News.