i didnt realise it was a 25 player squad. good news. 5 or 6 wont even travel and they have got North and Colosimo (who will probably start as CBs, although im guessing) plus mckain, dura and devere. so good chance he doesnt play.
Don't often disagree with you Bucks, but I hope they both play the full 90 and many more games for Australia. They're Australians - proud Australians - who just happen to play for the Phoenix and live in NZ. Yes, it would be nice to have players of their quality eligible for NZ, but I'm rapt for Durante in particular that he's been given the chance to earn a Socceroos cap. He's been one of the best central defenders in the league this season - on a par with Colosimo I reckon. I hope Pim starts him with Colosimo at CB.
i didnt realise it was a 25 player squad. good news. 5 or 6 wont even travel and they have got North and Colosimo (who will probably start as CBs, although im guessing) plus mckain, dura and devere. so good chance he doesnt play.
Don't often disagree with you Bucks, but I hope they both play the full 90 and many more games for Australia.� They're Australians - proud Australians - who just happen to play for the Phoenix and live in NZ. Yes, it would be nice to have players of their quality eligible for NZ, but I'm rapt for Durante in particular that he's been given the chance to earn a Socceroos cap.� He's been one of the best central defenders in the league this season - on a par with Colosimo I reckon.� I hope Pim starts him with Colosimo at CB.
Well said
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Good on both of them, they have been playing well and been noticed.
I would love to see them play for Australia, I'd rather a current Socceroo in our Nix team who has forced his way in, than one seeing out time to play for NZ. The experience of playing at that level would be good for both of them.
Pick them both Pim, go on I dare you
I would love to see them play for Australia, I'd rather a current Socceroo in our Nix team who has forced his way in, than one seeing out time to play for NZ. The experience of playing at that level would be good for both of them.
Pick them both Pim, go on I dare you
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Assuming Dura and McKain get a cap our list of past and present full internationals looks pretty impressive;
Whitby boy2010-02-17 21:14:27
New Zealand; Paston, Sigmund, Lochhead, Brown, Bertos, Mulligan (I know, I know)
Australia; McKain, Durante
Barbados; Ifill
Ivory Coast; Dadi
Malta; Muscat
11 full internationals and a few (anyone know who / how many ?) youth internationals.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Troy Hearfield, Vince Lia and Michael Ferrante have youth Aussie caps.
And Marco as a Kiwi youth?
Troy: Aussie U-20 14 games 6 goals
Aussie U-23 4 (2)
Vince Lia: Aussie U-20 21 (5)
Aussie U-23 4 (0)
Ferrante: Aussie U-17 3 (0)
Aussie U-20 10 (8).
simon_hampton2010-02-17 21:18:44
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Reddy at U20s as well.
EDIT: Just saw that Jiang Chen represented China at youth level, too. Whatever did the see in him?
Critical_Lemon2010-02-17 21:23:18
EDIT: Just saw that Jiang Chen represented China at youth level, too. Whatever did the see in him?
Critical_Lemon2010-02-17 21:23:18
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i didnt realise it was a 25 player squad. good news. 5 or 6 wont even travel and they have got North and Colosimo (who will probably start as CBs, although im guessing) plus mckain, dura and devere. so good chance he doesnt play.
Don't often disagree with you Bucks, but I hope they both play the full 90 and many more games for Australia. They're Australians - proud Australians - who just happen to play for the Phoenix and live in NZ. Yes, it would be nice to have players of their quality eligible for NZ, but I'm rapt for Durante in particular that he's been given the chance to earn a Socceroos cap. He's been one of the best central defenders in the league this season - on a par with Colosimo I reckon. I hope Pim starts him with Colosimo at CB.
He may well be further up the pecking order than im guessing. and yeah understand he's an aussie and would be as proud as punch. But i would still love to have him involved in our next WC campaign. anybody who has lived 5 years in a country, made it his home and skippered that country's only professional fooball side would be a legitimate and welcome addition. I just hope if he gets picked by verbeek it doesnt end up being the only international football he ever plays. that would be a shame.
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might have been notedalready but how old is Dura??
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might have been notedalready but how old is Dura??
He's 27
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Just reward for great season..two more Nix players in addition to our AWs to back up if get past Perth.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
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Congrats. That's fantastic. Well deserved.
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Reddy at U20s as well.
EDIT: Just saw that Jiang Chen represented China at youth level, too. Whatever did the see in him?
EDIT: Just saw that Jiang Chen represented China at youth level, too. Whatever did the see in him?
He may have paid for his spot. Happens a lot here.
And do the 442 editors read this forum? - http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/122801,nix-duos-socceroo-stepup.aspx
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I know this is unlikely due to the form of Colosimo but wouldn't it be awesome if both Durante and McKain started in defence together for Australia?
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And do the 442 editors read this forum? - http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/122801,nix-duos-socceroo-stepup.aspx
Yes. Not sure they did there though.
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So how many are going to be cut from the squad? 7? I thought it's often an 18 man squad.
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So how many are going to be cut from the squad? 7? I thought it's often an 18 man squad.
Not sure what the final AFC sqaud numbers are, but as the game is local (i.e brisbane) then travel costs for the players named is not going to be 'huge'.
Not surprised that Durante got a call up, McKain hmmmmmm, he was tried a few years ago but didn't set the world on fire, call him up anyway, at least Pim can see him in camp and assess him properly. His butt (Pim's) is on the line, not mine!
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You'd think our chaps would be in ahead of Luke DeVere wouldn't you? Everyone used to rave about Jade North but he never overly-impressed me so hopefully he's on the bench as well. Colosimo, though, will nearly certainly start.
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Dura better play the full 90 or not at all. I would be very pissed (and I would hope that he would be too) if he came on after the 80th minute thus insuring that he could never represnt NZ but may never represent Aussie again either.
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might have been notedalready but how old is Dura??
He's 27
so, in theory, if he doesn't take the park this time round and doesn't get called up again he could play for AWs at 30 (and in time for 2014 qualifiers)
but for the player I hope he manages to sneak into the Aussie SA squad (he's got his chance to at least stake a claim in training)
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Now that he's been named in an extended Australian line up does that not make him ineligible for NZ even if he doesn't make the final cut? (Assuming he accepts is call up, which he will).
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If you don't get on the pitch you haven't played I think is the rule.
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yip you get the cap when you enter the pitch to play
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If you don't get on the pitch you haven't played I think is the rule.
But what about if someone is named in the 23 man squad for the World Cup or the major regional cups? Surely that ties them to that country?
Also I seem to recall rules about being in the 'A' international team over 21 makes you ineligable for anyone else.
Bit murky these days. Tim Cahill broke the original barriers in 2004, and the second wave of FIFA amendments benifitted you guys last year to get the likes of Fallon,McGlinchey and Co.
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The 21 age is the old rule that was wiped last year d_s, that's how Fallon and co became eligible for us
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The 21 age is the old rule that was wiped last year d_s, that's how Fallon and co became eligible for us
There you go. I knew something changed last year but couldn't remember what. freddy Kanoute was another bloke that benefitted from the original (Tim Cahill vs FIFA) case in 2004.
Who instigated the 2nd wave of changes from 2009, FIFA, or a member nation?
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The 21 age is the old rule that was wiped last year d_s, that's how Fallon and co became eligible for us
There you go. I knew something changed last year but couldn't remember what. freddy Kanoute was another bloke that benefitted from the original (Tim Cahill vs FIFA) case in 2004.
Who instigated the 2nd wave of changes from 2009, FIFA, or a member nation?
dangerously off topic here ... but id heard it was the african nations fed up with european teams taking their kids for junior sides and them discarding them but too late for them to ever represent their country of birth.
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If you don't get on the pitch you haven't played I think is the rule.
But what about if someone is named in the 23 man squad for the World Cup or the major regional cups? Surely that ties them to that country?
This is a very interesting point - like News, I have always been under the impression the only thing FIFA counted was actually getting on the pitch in a full international (not an internatioal friendly). But it would be good to know what FIFA regulations say about this possibility, I may have a look later.
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Once you've declared for a nation I'm pretty sure you're stuck with it, even if you never get selected. Could be wrong though.
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Nah, it's more complicated than that.
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We've got the best centre backs in the league!
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Once you've declared for a nation I'm pretty sure you're stuck with it, even if you never get selected. Could be wrong though.
Do you happen to play a lot of FM?
You need to get on field to be tied to that nation. If you go and watch from the pine and not play then you are still free for your 2nd/3rd nation
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awesome news, finally some recognition of our stars - re the chen thing, perhaps he has lost some weight on a diet of rice only....
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Bloody stoked for both of them, and the club - it's always concerned me that non-selection of Phoenix players for Socceroos duties could be a barrier to signing Aussie players.
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Congratulations to them both. Well deserved and at a time when they are really showing some excellent form.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Play them together - they're work well as a team.
Best CB pair in the league
Best CB pair in the league
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