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about 10 years ago

No Rufer either, waiting for him to recover?

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Updated:

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

Kwabena APPIAH-KUBI
Troy DANASKOS
Justin GULLEY
Vince LIA
Manny MUSCAT
Alex RUFER (u21) 
Ben SIGMUND
Hamish WATSON (injury replacement for Krishna)

EXPIRES END OF 2016/17:

Roly BONEVACIA (f) 
Tom DOYLE
Louis FENTON
Alex RODRIGUEZ GORRIN (f)
Lewis ITALIANO
Glen MOSS
Blake POWELL
Albert RIERA (f)
Oliver SAIL (u21)

EXPIRES END OF 2017/18:

Andrew DURANTE
Roy KRISHNA (f)
James McGARRY (u21)
Michael McGLINCHEY 
Matthew RIDENTON
Logan ROGERSON (u21)

EXPIRES END OF 2018/19:

Kosta BARBAROUSES
Dylan FOX




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about 10 years ago

Interesting Ridenton gets 2 years, ernie must be happy with his development

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about 10 years ago

How many squad places do we get next season?

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about 10 years ago

Wibblebutt wrote:

Updated:

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

Kwabena APPIAH-KUBI
Troy DANASKOS
Justin GULLEY
Vince LIA
Manny MUSCAT
Alex RUFER (u21) 
Ben SIGMUND
Hamish WATSON (injury replacement for Krishna)

EXPIRES END OF 2016/17:

Roly BONEVACIA (f) 
Tom DOYLE
Louis FENTON
Alex RODRIGUEZ GORRIN (f)
Lewis ITALIANO
Glen MOSS
Blake POWELL
Albert RIERA (f)
Oliver SAIL (u21)

EXPIRES END OF 2017/18:

Andrew DURANTE
Roy KRISHNA (f)
James McGARRY (u21)
Michael McGLINCHEY 
Matthew RIDENTON
Logan ROGERSON (u21)

EXPIRES END OF 2017/18:

Kosta BARBAROUSES

EXPIRES END OF 2018/19:

Dylan FOX

Kosta is in 18/19, the mistake 2nd Best did for that update has been copied over.
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about 10 years ago

Maaaaaaatt wrote:
Re Doyle only getting one year could be a function of him being a kiwi. I doubt he's going to be import quality so no risk of another club grabbing him at the end of the season. On the other hand if he has a shark season he can be offloaded easily. Contrast that with Fox who as an Aussie, could be a target for another club this time next year

Also means that if he has a blinder of a year and has interest from South Africa or wherever he can ask for a raise...



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about 10 years ago

paulm wrote:

Interesting Ridenton gets 2 years, ernie must be happy with his development

Or he's 20 and happy to get paid anything to be a pro footballer, and isn't on Terry money? He has made quite a few appearances this season, though all over the place.



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about 10 years ago

It's really unfortunate that Rufer got injured - I thought he was looking better than Ridenton.

a.haak

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about 10 years ago

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Normo's coming home

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Before Krishna was injured we had the best start of the season in our history, we are just a couple of starting players and a bit of depth short of a top squad. This year we had pretty much the same team as last year but missing a couple of players and some depth so that makes sense.

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about 10 years ago

JD always wants wholesale changes. 


Allegedly

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about 10 years ago

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Pretty much spot on JD. Plus 4 top players (like Kosta) and long term injury (Krishna) coming back. But yes we will play the same team, minus 1st teams starters like Siggy and Muscat.

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james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

The big difference between the Nix and every other team this year is that we haven't beaten CCM or the Jets. Which is pretty bizarre really as I do think they are the weakest teams in the league by a long way.

If we had an 8 team league (i.e. all the results vs CCM and Jets were removed) the table would look like this. Nix are 5th with a game in-hand, potentially third as they would be favorites to beat Perth who sit two points below in the table.

Team Played Win Draw Loss Points
BRI 18 9 3 6 30
ADL 18 8 4 6 28
WSW 18 7 5 6 26
MCY 17 7 5 5 26
WEL 17 7 3 7 24
PER 18 6 4 8 22
MVC 18 5 6 7 21
SYD 18 2 9 7 15

I'd take from that table the Nix are competitive, and wholesale changes aren't needed. They just need to step it up against poorer opposition.

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about 10 years ago

number8 wrote:

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Pretty much spot on JD. Plus 4 top players (like Kosta) and long term injury (Krishna) coming back. But yes we will play the same team, minus 1st teams starters like Siggy and Muscat.

Sounds though that Ernie is intending to add "two or three" experienced quality players (probably Aussies?) for next season.

Ernie was quoted in the media yesterday as saying that he's "still looking to add more experience to balance out the squad. "

"I intend to sign two or three high quality players to do that and to add stability within the team," he said.

"Kosta Barbarouses is the first of those and he is a great signing for the club."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/779...

I quite like the way the squad is shaping for next season with new players coming in and this season's newbies like Powell and Fox having shown much worth in recent months...

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

Tegal wrote:

JD always wants wholesale changes. 

I'd like JD to put together an alternate squad (on paper).

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Yep - hopefully players like Powell and Watson take on those roles that players like Boyd and Cunningham performed last year, i.e. you need to change things up and score some goals then you bring them on and they make an immediate impact. I guess that's what Appiah was supposed to do this year, and he did make an impact by generally terrifying defenses by running at them, but unfortunately that's about the extent of his game.

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Yep - hopefully players like Powell and Watson take on those roles that players like Boyd and Cunningham performed last year, i.e. you need to change things up and score some goals then you bring them on and they make an immediate impact. I guess that's what Appiah was supposed to do this year, and he did make an impact by generally terrifying defenses by running at them, but unfortunately that's about the extent of his game.

no he didn't

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Before Krishna was injured we had the best start of the season in our history, we are just a couple of starting players and a bit of depth short of a top squad. This year we had pretty much the same team as last year but missing a couple of players and done depth so that makes sense.

Not just the Krishna injury but Sigmund as well. Those 2 fit all season and someone like Kosta instead of Sarpong and it could have been a very different season.

Because of the salary cap and squad size restrictions 3 or 4 players can make a massive difference to a team too.

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yep - hopefully players like Powell and Watson take on those roles that players like Boyd and Cunningham performed last year, i.e. you need to change things up and score some goals then you bring them on and they make an immediate impact. I guess that's what Appiah was supposed to do this year, and he did make an impact by generally terrifying defenses by running at them, but unfortunately that's about the extent of his game.

no he didn't

Maybe not generally but he did against the Roar at least.

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yep - hopefully players like Powell and Watson take on those roles that players like Boyd and Cunningham performed last year, i.e. you need to change things up and score some goals then you bring them on and they make an immediate impact. I guess that's what Appiah was supposed to do this year, and he did make an impact by generally terrifying defenses by running at them, but unfortunately that's about the extent of his game.

no he didn't

His greatest chance of terrifying was for them to fall over laughing at them and suffer some horrendous injury 
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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Before Krishna was injured we had the best start of the season in our history, we are just a couple of starting players and a bit of depth short of a top squad. This year we had pretty much the same team as last year but missing a couple of players and done depth so that makes sense.

Not just the Krishna injury but Sigmund as well. Those 2 fit all season and someone like Kosta instead of Sarpong and it could have been a very different season.

Because of the salary cap and squad size restrictions 3 or 4 players can make a massive difference to a team too.

Yup, Take Fornarolli or Mooy out of City and they start looking a lot less impressive
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djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

The big difference between the Nix and every other team this year is that we haven't beaten CCM or the Jets. Which is pretty bizarre really as I do think they are the weakest teams in the league by a long way.

If we had an 8 team league (i.e. all the results vs CCM and Jets were removed) the table would look like this. Nix are 5th with a game in-hand, potentially third as they would be favorites to beat Perth who sit two points below in the table.

Team Played Win Draw Loss Points
BRI 18 9 3 6 30
ADL 18 8 4 6 28
WSW 18 7 5 6 26
MCY 17 7 5 5 26
WEL 17 7 3 7 24
PER 18 6 4 8 22
MVC 18 5 6 7 21
SYD 18 2 9 7 15

I'd take from that table the Nix are competitive, and wholesale changes aren't needed. They just need to step it up against poorer opposition.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I just see it as an evidence of our soft mental attitude. 

Other teams than Jets / CCM may be better, yet we beat them.  CCM and the Jets wanted badly to win but for whatever reason we were the easiest team for them to beat. So this is just my guess, others may see it differently.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago

is there where we talked about staff who have re-signed as well? because i am to lazy to look for that thread. 

in the article on the front page regarding Des's re-signing with us, it says he "will also take on a role as an assistant to head coach Ernie Merrick", is that just adding to his assistants or is greenacre on he way out?

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yep - hopefully players like Powell and Watson take on those roles that players like Boyd and Cunningham performed last year, i.e. you need to change things up and score some goals then you bring them on and they make an immediate impact. I guess that's what Appiah was supposed to do this year, and he did make an impact by generally terrifying defenses by running at them, but unfortunately that's about the extent of his game.

no he didn't

He did terrify me, though. Regularly. If it helps?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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about 10 years ago

kwlap wrote:

is there where we talked about staff who have re-signed as well? because i am to lazy to look for that thread. 

in the article on the front page regarding Des's re-signing with us, it says he "will also take on a role as an assistant to head coach Ernie Merrick", is that just adding to his assistants or is greenacre on he way out?

He's been unofficially taking on an assistant coach role already this season alongside Greenie. Des as the defending assistant coach, Greenie as the attacking assistant coach seems like the way forward.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 10 years ago

kwlap wrote:

is there where we talked about staff who have re-signed as well? because i am to lazy to look for that thread. 

in the article on the front page regarding Des's re-signing with us, it says he "will also take on a role as an assistant to head coach Ernie Merrick", is that just adding to his assistants or is greenacre on he way out?

I thought a goal keeping coach was automatically an assistant to the head coach?

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about 10 years ago

Tegal wrote:

JD always wants wholesale changes. 

I think our defence needs an overhaul

Normo's coming home

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about 10 years ago

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Is there anything about the Phoenix you actually like.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 10 years ago

Why would NZ immigration fast track Krishna's citizenship? I don't believe they would. There's no advantage to NZ for them to do that.

Riera though - he would be eligible for the AWs so if Hudson wants him then I'm sure they'd do it for him, just as they did for Daniel (although he never ended up playing for NZ as FIFA changed the rules around the same time)




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about 10 years ago

ballane wrote:

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Is there anything about the Phoenix you actually like.

In the past 4 years we've finished 10th, 9th, 4th (with Burns), and probably 8th or 9th...I do not understand the loyalty to this group of players.

Normo's coming home

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james dean wrote:

ballane wrote:

james dean wrote:

So looks like we're going to have pretty much the same team as last year with Kosta and a new foreign centre back.  Did anyone watch us play this year?

Is there anything about the Phoenix you actually like.

In the past 4 years we've finished 10th, 9th, 4th (with Burns), and probably 8th or 9th...I do not understand the loyalty to this group of players.

except how many guys who were here 4 years ago will be here next year? Dura, Moss, maybe Lia... have I missed anyone? So how do results from then reflect on the squad we are looking at for next year? 

A lot of these players were here last season when we finished 4th, so why couldn't we do that again (or better) with Kosta to replace Burns in that role and a couple of new signings? 

Edit: Fenton was the only other player in the current squad who was in our first team squad 4 years ago when we came 10th https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Wellington...

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about 10 years ago

I think we can give them a bit of a break this year - there's been a few circumstances which may have compounded on field issues.

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about 10 years ago

Do you understand the limitations in  a Salary capped league JD ?

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about 10 years ago

So we couldn't repeat or better 4th after trying and failing to replace burns, having terrible injury issues all year, a horrible schedule, and the distraction of the team possibly becoming defunct... I think everyone involved with the club deserves a break... but naturally they are having to work their hardest right now to piece together next season's roster, not just to keep other clubs away from players but also so they can do the decent thing and let them know who will have a job and who won't.

I agree the defence needs overhauling but that's naturally happening anyway, with two pillars of it in sigmund and muscat retiring. It also looks to me like fenton will be kept as a bit of a squad utility, and not our first choice right back. I would expect us to sign at least two more defenders capable of starting week-in week-out.

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about 10 years ago

paulm wrote:

So we couldn't repeat or better 4th after trying and failing to replace burns, having terrible injury issues all year, a horrible schedule, and the distraction of the team possibly becoming defunct... I think everyone involved with the club deserves a break... but naturally they are having to work their hardest right now to piece together next season's roster, not just to keep other clubs away from players but also so they can do the decent thing and let them know who will have a job and who won't.

I agree the defence needs overhauling but that's naturally happening anyway, with two pillars of it in sigmund and muscat retiring. It also looks to me like fenton will be kept as a bit of a squad utility, and not our first choice right back. I would expect us to sign at least two more defenders capable of starting week-in week-out.

Muscat is not retiring- transferring to Melbourne . We need to replace Dura.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 10 years ago

is saprong playing anywhere?

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about 10 years ago

james dean wrote:

Tegal wrote:

JD always wants wholesale changes. 

I think our defence needs an overhaul

I agree with you there. That is where our import spot should be going (unless someone local becomes available out of nowhere)


Allegedly

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about 10 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

is saprong playing anywhere?

Don't think so, last time I checked he still had Wellington Phoenix player on his twitter profile, that would have been a couple of weeks ago. He's removed it now.

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I agree with you there. That is where our import spot should be going (unless someone local becomes available out of nowhere)

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quote fail but I still agree

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