i really dont understand why lots of people on here are whining
about costa not getting ago for me hes just not good enough yet.
there is a reason that he hasnt been starting games the whole
season because we have had a better player in that position sure
elrichs not playing the best right now and probably a let down in
the marquee category but jeez dont just axe him he actually is a
good player once he gits a bit fitter
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i really dont understand why lots of people on here are whining
about costa not getting ago for me hes just not good enough yet.
there is a reason that he hasnt been starting games the whole
season because we have had a better player in that position sure
elrichs not playing the best right now and probably a let down in
the marquee category but jeez dont just axe him he actually is a
good player once he gits a bit fitter
At the risk of turning this into yet another Elrich-bashing
thread (which I don't want to do) I agree with your
post but the point about Elrich is that he's not doing
the business at the moment and he's had several months to "get a
bit fitter". If he's not "playing the best right now", why should
he be guaranteed a starting spot?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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good point and this is not a Elrich bashing post as youy said its
more about why people think costa is so good that he should just
waltz into the position that elrich has been playing.
yes hes not playing the best right now but who would replace
him the only person that i could think of is lia if he can play out
wide but not costa
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Given what I've seen of him, which admittedly isn't that much, I
don't think Costa's ready to start yet but I think, given the right
game situations, he could maybe get a decent run off the bench.
Thing about Costa is that he's young, his time will come.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Pederson makes a point. The logical conclusion is that Ricki
doesn't think Costa would do a better job than Elrich in that
position.
smithy2462008-01-07 15:25:26
How else do you explain Costa not getting a go...?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Pederson makes a point. The logical conclusion is that Ricki
doesn't think Costa would do a better job than Elrich in that
position.
How else do you explain Costa not getting a go...?
I can't 
,
but I'm not sure that Costa would have any less impact than
Elrich is having
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but I'm not sure that Costa would have any less impact than
Elrich is havingApparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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what about lia playing out on the right????????????/
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I think Costa might get a run off the bench in the last couple of
games, but don't think he should start.
In saying that i'd drop Elrich and have Christie or Lia on the
right
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what ever happened to draper i kind of feel sorry for him and spoonley have they even got a game yet besides about 10 mins in the galaxy game
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
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Paston shouldn't stay imo. He's a good keeper and shouldn't be
sitting on the pine.
Costa will need a couple of years to get up to the level of the young AIS graduates in the A-League. (Minniecon, Kruse, Zullo etc.) He's never been in a truly professional environment before so it'll take him a while to get used to it. I don't think he'll be ready next season now - maybe the one after.
Draper is an interesting one. Will he go back to NZFC?
valeo2008-01-07 16:17:41
Costa will need a couple of years to get up to the level of the young AIS graduates in the A-League. (Minniecon, Kruse, Zullo etc.) He's never been in a truly professional environment before so it'll take him a while to get used to it. I don't think he'll be ready next season now - maybe the one after.
Draper is an interesting one. Will he go back to NZFC?
valeo2008-01-07 16:17:41
a.haak
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Elrich is real good but if costa going to make an empact in the
future he must have some game time.
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Costa and Draper can't be thrown in too early, though. It will
destroy their confidence if they fail hard.
a.haak
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Elrich is real good but if costa going to make an empact in the
future he must have some game time.
Elrich is what....???
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Elrich is real good but if costa going to make an empact in the
future he must have some game time.
Elrich is what....???
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
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I know we all want to see Barbarouses do well for the Phoenix but
he's only a kid.Rickie sees him every week at training and will
know when he's ready for a crack at the big time. We still have
plenty to play for this season as Perth can still overtake us and
we don't want to finish last!!!
Please don't play Barbarouses against Melbourne..he will be MUSCATISED!!!!!!!!
Please don't play Barbarouses against Melbourne..he will be MUSCATISED!!!!!!!!
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
what pastons a bloody legend sure he played sh*t that game but
the fact that ricki was rushing him back into the squad as the
first choice doesnt that tell you something
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I think it was meant to tell Mossy something, and it worked
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
what pastons a bloody legend sure he played sh*t that game but
the fact that ricki was rushing him back into the squad as the
first choice doesnt that tell you something
Yeah, that Ricki f*cked up.
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
what pastons a bloody legend sure he played sh*t that game but
the fact that ricki was rushing him back into the squad as the
first choice doesnt that tell you something
Yeah, that Ricki f*cked up.
no it tells us who stole the cookie from the cookie jar
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1st of all, pederson ur a muppet. i don't believe we watch the same
football matches..elrich has been given way too many chances, get
some one new out there, from what i saw of costa in that beckham
game hes more than ready and a lot more capable than what u are
rating him..wen have u ever seen what he can do to be able to say
hes not ready?
y would u put christie out there?? hes got no pace 2 burn
niether does lia and i don't think they have better technique than
costa either.
nows the perfect time 2 play draper aswel, give the guy a go,
coveny has been great over the years but nah man his times over id
rather see some draper out there.
ur all saying u want 2 see costa get a run but not now?? when
we have nufin 2 play for....what better time is there?
thats just my opinion and dont get 2 see the guys at training
but dnt think that wud change anything.
gang.green.gang2008-01-08 15:58:03
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Interesting thought about draper. Perhaps we can use these last two
games to give the unused players and give them a taste of the
action. Spoonley, Draper, The Barb boy. Yep, time to experiment as
it isn't costing us anything. Lonegunmen2008-01-08 17:48:14
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Yep, it's that time alright. Let's give the young guys a chance to
build their confidence and show their skills.
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I dont think it is time for Costa yet, or Draper or Spoonley. Lets
get some points against Melbourne, and make ourselves sure of 7th
before we do anything experimental
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Yep, time to experiment as it isn't costing us anything.
I'm with you on this one Lonegunmen.
Perhaps they should come of the bench for atleast 30mins. Its time to start shaping the team for next season. Some game time for the benchwarmers now could be beneficial for next season.
I think Ricki knows who is chopping already, so why not see if the youngsters can step up and take there chance.
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
what pastons a bloody legend sure he played sh*t that game but
the fact that ricki was rushing him back into the squad as the
first choice doesnt that tell you something
Yeah, that Ricki f*cked up.
rofl at pederson, what u smoking bro? do u really call waiting about 4 weeks after Paston was fit to give him a go rushing him into the squad? Moss kept him out
Paston was signed as the first choice goalkeeper, they were pretty even at the knights, Paston got injured, Moss took his chance, Paston got his chance eventually and didnt take it. The result?
Moss has become argueably the best keeper in the league, and we have 2 good replacements. end.
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I dont think it is time for Costa yet, or Draper or Spoonley. Lets
get some points against Melbourne, and make ourselves sure of 7th
before we do anything experimental
These guys have to play at sometime don't they. When do you suggest they do start?
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preseason next year. I want to see us get some points in the next
two games.
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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1st of all, pederson ur a muppet. i don't believe we watch the same
football matches..elrich has been given way too many chances, get
some one new out there, from what i saw of costa in that beckham
game hes more than ready and a lot more capable than what u are
rating him..wen have u ever seen what he can do to be able to say
hes not ready?
y would u put christie out there?? hes got no pace 2 burn
niether does lia and i don't think they have better technique than
costa either.
nows the perfect time 2 play draper aswel, give the guy a go,
coveny has been great over the years but nah man his times over id
rather see some draper out there.
ur all saying u want 2 see costa get a run but not now?? when
we have nufin 2 play for....what better time is there?
thats just my opinion and dont get 2 see the guys at training
but dnt think that wud change anything.
firstly i would love to be a muppet and i do believe we watch
the same football matches as there is no other duplicate wellington
phoenix fc yeh elrich has been given chances and no he hasnt
performed but my main argument is why costa just coz he hasnt
played yet doesnt mean hes gonna come on and be brilliant from what
i saw of costa playing for new zealand wa nothing special oh and
yeh now is the perfect time to experiment we have nothing to lose
WE HAVE BLOODY 7TH SPOT TO LOSE OR GETTING 6TH if you want to
experiment to a team that is playing well and risk losing and
getting the woodenspoon whats the point of it mabye not last week
but in other games the nix have been playing well
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If Elrich is let go he will be replaced by someone else. It's
really not a Costa v Elrich decision.
Next couple of weeks could see a some game time for Costa,
Draper or Paston as Riki looks to evaluate some players for
next season. I think he will still want to finish
strongly though so I wouldn't expect too much
experimentation.
Oh No Please not Paston . From what Ive seen of him, there
would be at least 5 going in.
what pastons a bloody legend sure he played sh*t that game but
the fact that ricki was rushing him back into the squad as the
first choice doesnt that tell you something
Yeah, that Ricki f*cked up.
rofl at pederson, what u smoking bro? do u really call waiting about 4 weeks after Paston was fit to give him a go rushing him into the squad? Moss kept him out
Paston was signed as the first choice goalkeeper, they were pretty even at the knights, Paston got injured, Moss took his chance, Paston got his chance eventually and didnt take it. The result?
Moss has become argueably the best keeper in the league, and we have 2 good replacements. end.
whos denieing that pastons still a good keeper who hasnt
played a sh*t game in their life do you think zidane or other
greats would be the players they are today if they were exicuted
afte rthey played a sh*t game. moss didnt play that great for the
first part of the season only in the middle and latter parts. now i
saw paston play a lot for the knights hes not a bad keeper just
moss is better id rather paston than some of the other first choice
keepers in the league any day
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Wasn't the reason Moss came into the starting line up due to Paston
getting injured? From then on Moss really hasn't done anything to
justify him being dropped, sure theres been a lot of goals against
him, but another keeper wouldn't have made any difference - the
defence has had a huge influence on the goals conceded.
theprof2008-01-09 08:58:06
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Wasn't the reason Moss came into the starting line up due to Paston
getting injured?
Correct. Training accident the day before the very first
game. Paston was set to start that match and was the number 1
'keeper heading into the regular season. Funny how things
turn out....
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I dont think it is time for Costa yet, or Draper or
Spoonley. Lets get some points against Melbourne, and make ourselves
sure of 7th before we do anything experimental
Spoonley. Lets get some points against Melbourne, and make ourselves
sure of 7th before we do anything experimental
These guys have to play at sometime don't they.� When do you suggest they do start?
Just because you are in the squad, you dont necessarily get on the park.
however, heard Ricki on the Radio Live news this afternoon, saying that they are taking Draper and he will get some game time in Melbourne. And also Costa will be at the last game.
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If these young guys keep getting 10 to 15 at the end of a gam ethat
is fine, but would be disappointed to put them into our starting
line up. We still need to consolidate 7th place and putting out a
strong side is key. Not saying I wouldn;t like to see them getting
time at the end of games to give them a chance, just cant see the
value in them starting at this point
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If these young guys keep getting 10 to 15 at the end of a gam ethat
is fine, but would be disappointed to put them into our starting
line up. We still need to consolidate 7th place and putting out a
strong side is key. Not saying I wouldn;t like to see them getting
time at the end of games to give them a chance, just cant see the
value in them starting at this point
Completely agree 30mins to go up by three chuck them on otherwise 5-10mins is fine, yet more importantly have them on the bench as a option in the first place.
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Now is the worst time, the nix have everything to lose - all that
credibility they've worked so hard to gain is going to mean
absolutely nothing in the eyes of the average kiwi if the nix
finish last. If we win this game in Melbourne by two goals, we go
into 6th. If we lose it, and Perth win, we go to the bottom with a
final game against CCM.
So there's plenty at stake. I'll be pissed if we finish last, especially if its caused by letting the kids have game time.aussienixfan2008-01-09 22:08:13
So there's plenty at stake. I'll be pissed if we finish last, especially if its caused by letting the kids have game time.aussienixfan2008-01-09 22:08:13
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Moss had a shocker in the first half the week before he was dropped
- he's been better since but nothing wrong with Paston.
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