If we have joel porter for next season...we wont be able to re-sign smeltz
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A big guy up front so Smeltz can make a run and get some space. All for it! Beats kicking it to Smeltz and hope he beats 3 to score if he's alone up front.
None of the otehrs are up for it, so I'm fine with Covs. I'm also an advocate for letting Daniel have a go up front with Smeltz
Royal2008-10-07 14:10:19
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Daniel up front with Smeltz?!!!!!!
He can't header a ball, can't tackle, has no pace, loses possesion too easily.
What role do you think he can offer up front with these credentials?????
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True tackling is a a hugely important attribute for a striker 
He has pace
And im pretty sure hes scored a couple of headed goals for us?
He played up front last season,and played well.
He'd be better than covs up front,and id rather start him than have him on the bench
Good enough for you?
Im a fan of this idea too if you couldnt tell
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Id rather have Gao starting in the midfield,were he has been all season.
Daniel should only start up front because he cant retain his place in his natural midfield position it seems. So no harm in giving him a go up front,where he can play quite well also
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Daniel up front with Smeltz?!!!!!!
He can't header a ball, can't tackle, has no pace, loses possesion too easily.
What role do you think he can offer up front with these credentials?????
Can't header a ball? Which Daniel have you been watching?
He can't tackle - so stick him up front.
He has limited pace, but can beat a player
As I mentioned, happy with Covs but if it's not Covs then try Daniel.
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I'd put Kwasnik or Draper up there ahead of Daniel.
loyalgunner2008-10-07 15:30:14
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But...daniel is a better player than Draper...at the moment at least...and can play up front too.
Kwasnik has been average this season,but then so has Daniel...so that could go either way.
I just think Daniel should be given a shot up front...given he can score goals,be creative up front without having to worry about tracking back too much...and play quite well in the position last season.
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But...daniel is a better player than Draper...at the moment at least...and can play up front too.
Kwasnik has been average this season,but then so has Daniel...so that could go either way.
I just think Daniel should be given a shot up front...given he can score goals,be creative up front without having to worry about tracking back too much...and play quite well in the position last season.
Can't say Daniel is better than Draper is no Raper since we have never seen him play
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Can't say Daniel is better than Draper is no Raper since we have never seen him play
No, but Ricki does every day and it's his job that depends on these decisions.
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But...daniel is a better player than Draper...at the moment at least...and can play up front too.
Kwasnik has been average this season,but then so has Daniel...so that could go either way.
I just think Daniel should be given a shot up front...given he can score goals,be creative up front without having to worry about tracking back too much...and play quite well in the position last season.
Can't say Daniel is better than Draper is no Raper since we have never seen him play
Eh? 
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I was basing that on age,and the fact draper is only in squad as an under age player. Too young to be starting every week. Cant even make the bench,nor can costa (though hes close...would make an extended bench)
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Can't say Daniel is better than Draper is no Raper since we have never seen him play
No, but Ricki does every day and it's his job that depends on these decisions.
It is harder for Draper to get a game as striker than it is for Daniel to get a game in the middle seeing as half of the number of strikers than midfielders play at once.
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But then you forget we only have 2 strikers...smeltz and coveny. By that logic the fact RH has preferred to play midfielders ahead of Draper up front has to say a lot about how he is not up to a starting spot yet
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True tackling is a a hugely important attribute for a striker
He has pace
And im pretty sure hes scored a couple of headed goals for us?
He played up front last season,and played well.
He'd be better than covs up front,and id rather start him than have him on the bench
Good enough for you?
Im a fan of this idea too if you couldnt tell
Yes he has scored a couple of goals and I think from memory it was when the ball came onto his head under no challenge. Credit due for those two efforts.
Invariably though he is hopeless when under a challenge the air, he jumps without looking,backs in to the challenge a lot and has given away a fair few fouls doing so or has been left sprawled on the ground.
Being able to tackle even up front is the first line of defence, look at Smeltz as a reference.
He doesn't fit as a striker. He's simply not sharp or tough enough. Looking pretty won't win us the A League.
Answer - No, not good enough.
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Daniel up front with Smeltz?!!!!!!
He can't header a ball, can't tackle, has no pace, loses possesion too easily.
What role do you think he can offer up front with these credentials?????
Can't header a ball? Which Daniel have you been watching?
He can't tackle - so stick him up front.
He has limited pace, but can beat a player
As I mentioned, happy with Covs but if it's not Covs then try Daniel.
Are you a goalkeeper then?
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Cov's has it coz there appears to be no other option(in Rickis opinion). When was the last time Covs got a shot on goal? He's a striker for Fxxx's sake...thats what their job is. At least Daniel has a few ball skills that might make him more of a threat.
You need to pick strikers to play in pairs.....Smeltz is a good target man, he holds the ball up well and has got a good nose for goal. Cov's is also a target man...why play two the same.Its too easy for defenses to close them down. Daniel would draw defenders off Smeltz....Covs is not much of a threat. He runs a bit but thats it.
The big question is.....do the Phoenix plan to recruit a striker at this stage of the season or are we going to battle along with the present players? Joel Porter has probably signed a letter of intent for next season. Just hope that Smeltz doesn't get injured or we are toast!!!!!
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totally not a waste of space.give him sum credit hes 37 odd and running round like a teenager.Shows a lot more ticker than a lot of other players in the squad.
Agreed. Maybe we should start picking on players that deserve stick such as Johnson , Kwasnik (who has done f**k all) and Durante for that matter who got schooled by Edmundo Zura for a goal. Coveny hs ben great the last couple of games
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tbh I don't think we need to be 'picking on' anyone at the moment. We're finally showing some passion and commitment and are knocking the ball around alright. Can only get better.
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Yes Mike, Covs is waste of space. He is even struggling to hold the ball which is is primary job cus he doesnt score goals.
We are not going to make the top 4 this year without another class striker. But its getting too late now.
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But...daniel is a better player than Draper...at the moment at least...and can play up front too.
Kwasnik has been average this season,but then so has Daniel...so that could go either way.
I just think Daniel should be given a shot up front...given he can score goals,be creative up front without having to worry about tracking back too much...and play quite well in the position last season.
Can't say Daniel is better than Draper is no Raper since we have never seen him play
Eh?
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Yes Mike, Covs is waste of space. He is even struggling to hold the ball which is is primary job cus he doesnt score goals.
To trueWe are not going to make the top 4 this year without another class striker. But its getting too late now.
You know we belong together...
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dont this this thread was called Dive or no Dive
He didnt dive anyway. Played for the fowl by putting himself between the ball and a lungeing defender
I thought he played for the Nix. Must have been watching the wrong game.
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Yes Mike, Covs is waste of space. He is even struggling to hold the ball which is is primary job cus he doesnt score goals.
To trueWe are not going to make the top 4 this year without another class striker. But its getting too late now.
So true about the top 4 it's depressing. As for another striker this year--right! (There's a billboard in there somewhere.)
Don't even think about next season. Or you'll start wondering what'll be left of our current crop once we cut the deadwood. The two additional clubs with big cheque books and warmer weather, ready to snap up the best available talent (like Porter). Even Smeltzy.
Pass me the Prozac.
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Big Cheque books are over-ridden by a salary cap and our NZ players require them to give up an import spot. We're in better nick than some other sides.
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The call about not making top 4 without another striker is huge considering if we had won that game we'd be 2 points behind 4th. Its still a possibilty. Id still be happy with top 6,and top 4 would be amazing
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dont this this thread was called Dive or no Dive
He didnt dive anyway. Played for the fowl by putting himself between the ball and a lungeing defender
I thought he played for the Nix. Must have been watching the wrong game.
Quite a good result for an old rooster I thought
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We need to get some go foward. Watching the games is hard. I mean im young and love watching them but it just gets boring after a while they need some flair. Like someone who will get on the ball and do something. We need a marque player.. atm we have none.
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true we should sign ronaldhino and he can stand in the centre circle with the ball and do tricks for 90mins...then do a bicycle kick from halfway in injury time and we will win 1-0
This is the A-League Ryzah12.....
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...or John Aloisi... or Mario Jardel...
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Nah im not talking about that. you member when the kings had a chilean and he just excited people got them to turn up to watch. I mean wellingtonians always turn up but theres nothign up front except for smeltz
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If Almendra is an advertisement for what we can get, let's say no.
It's not like he dragged in the crowds or actually made the team better.
It's not like he dragged in the crowds or actually made the team better.
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Well just someone. Sick of no go foward or anything. Felipe was good.
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I agree.....last year we played an exciting style and it was great to watch. Some of the interplay down the left between Daniel, Felipe and Lockhead was breathtaking. So where are we now...playing a different style. Compare the first round this year with the first round last year.
We have conceded same number of goals =12. Won one game less....and scored 4 goals less than last year.
I'm not complaining coz after a rocky start we are now back on track. But exciting play and winning will bring the crowds back to the ROF. I guess we all agree we needed to tighten our leaky defense but did we need to also sacrifice our attacking style.
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true we should sign ronaldhino and he can stand in the centre circle with the ball and do tricks for 90mins...then do a bicycle kick from halfway in injury time and we will win 1-0
What Ryzah means is someone with pace that'll take on defenders with pace, maybe have a bit of creativity, and, yes, even pull off the odd trick. The likes of Song, Zullo, hell even Archie - players like this are NOT out of reach for an A-League team.
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This is the A-League Ryzah12.....
We don't have one of those players. Daniel is the closest we have - but he back passes to linesmen, isn't quick, and seems to be warming the bench a bit this season. It's not like the A-League can't be exciting - sure, it's not the best league. But, from a neutral perspective, some other teams can be far more exciting to watch than ours at the moment. Not just because they're winning.
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Daniel, Gao, Bertos... we have them, they just aren't finding a rhythm at the moment.
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this has got a bit off topic but man watching gao is frustrating, just wish he'd have a crack at people more aften. obviously has the skills and some decent pace.
i agree with ryzah our play is pretty uninspiring for whatever reason.
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Daniel, Gao, Bertos... we have them, they just aren't finding a rhythm at the moment.
No rhythm? Just switch their MP3 players and find some decent music....
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