Daniel - Friend or Foe??

He needs a hair cut.

Voted prettiest boy in the team by the girls on Fri night - a new Daniel Carter type maybe? Give him a new do and put him in some jockeys, and we won't give a sh*t if he dives ;)

George is like Big Foot or the Loch Ness monster or the Moa lots of people think they have seen him but no hard concrete evidence yet!!

I'm quite certain I saw Nessy in the Firth of Forth after a bender once.

I'm not going to get used to it. It will always annoy me. Imagine if the Phoenix were up 2-1 in the grand final and Archie Thompson dived and got Melbourne a penalty and they went on to win? I'm sure that would change a few attitudes towards this pathetic practice.

Diving  is wrong. It looks  pathetic when one player does it, and it would look ridiculous if the whole team did it.
It's not cricket, you've got to play to the whistle. You can't be appealing for decisions while the ball's still in play.
Rugby fans will think we're a bunch of wusses for tolerating such pansy crap.
Daniel is talented as long as he stays off the ground.

I'm not a big fan of players diving either but it happens in leagues all over the world. Daniel is only doing what comes naturally to him.

some times he bites off more than he can chew and looses the ball when a simple pass would have set up an attacking oppurtunity. he is a key player but he needs to play more like a team player and not go solo all the time. his diving doesnt bother me at all, its part of the game now.

just realised i repeated some stuff, sorry lads + lassesWARZYCHA2007-09-04 23:41:37

grosso's dive in the world cup vs aussy got them the win in the last min and i was supporting aussy but the italians did what they did to win and thats what its about at the end of the day so if diving is gonna get you a decision like that im happy for it... i want him dive mabey he can win us a few penaltys

That's pretty much all the Italians do. Infact, I can only think of one foul on an Italian (good old Zinedine Zidane) which was so good I think France should have been given a freekick (pretty faulty logic I know).loyalgunner2007-09-06 16:21:14

Grosso didn't dive. Lucas Neill is an overrated hack.

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Baiter2007-09-06 16:22:21

This has got nothing to do with Lucas Neill being a hack or not. Grosso dived about as unconvincingly as Daniel when he got a yellow card in game one.loyalgunner2007-09-06 16:41:16

Speaking of his yellow cards, he has had a yellow card in each of the last two games, does that make him suspended for game 3? I know it's like that in the World Cup, but not sure if it's like that in club competitions.

now now hes awsome its because u dont have the skill that he has.

A dive is where there is no contact.  Neill hit Grosso.  Penalty.  Goodbye Aussie.  Good riddance.

Not necessary most times Daniel 'dives' he gets touched but not enough to make him hit the ground.

"There's only one King Edward one King Edward..."

Well whether contact was made or not it was pathetic and Grosso may as well go out their wearing a dress so that the players know he's a pansy and can't be touched.

Mrdja made a terrible diving once (free kick was given- funny enough it was Daniel who cleared the ball),  but Aussies got troubled eyes anyway OFFICIAL match summary:

http://www.a-league.com.au/Scoreboard_HAL/0000780026/scoreboard.html

Phoenix did not hit the goalpost, or saved a shot etc. according to reports.

Did you watch the game?  I tend to trust my own eyes and SAW us hit the bar

Twice even.

I have to say, i don't like his diving!

James you need andy haden to take you under his wing

so 3 ycs = 1 match, 4 after that (7 ycs)= 2matches or 1,im alitttle confused

Daniel doesn't dive.  He overacts.

When he got the yellow in game 1 he had his supporting leg taken out.  It would have been very difficult if not impossible to stay on his feet. 

The problem is that with the space he had created by beating the man he had time to get up, have a stretch, go take a leak, and then put a pass through to one of the strikers.  Instead he rolls around on the ground instead of trying to play on.

It seems the ref was just waiting for an excuse to book him, fair enough, probably good for him.  Just hope that they make some attempt to stop Victory from barging the team off the park next time.

oh man thats intense, you get a few reds/yellows you miss most of the season.

Can someone just cut his hair?!

I've never really seen the point of the whole argument over diving.

If there's a foul then the ref should give a free kick.
If the guy is rolling around the floor for no reason then play on - he can waste as much time as he wants lying down.

Should just be up to the ref to make that call and we just have to accept that sometimes mistakes happen.

One wonders whether the A-League officials have asked their refs to stamp out diving given there are so many brazilians playing now.

I reckon they have and are doing it unfairly,  Refs go into games looking closely at Daniel (et al)  to look for 'simulation', there obviously is a bias towards 'local' players getting away with it.

Pre World Cup the referees were told to watch Peter Crouch carefully and penalise him more, this was the Official FIFA briefing. So it isn't like it doesn't happen