possibly we've already come close or hit the salary cap and thus
have to call him a marquee?
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what if we called him 'a big pup tent' player ??
would that hel..
see ya
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Are Moore, Thompson, Lazaridis, Jardel, Agostino or Vidmar ?
(I will accept I am not 100% certain they are all marquee's but most of them are).
(I will accept I am not 100% certain they are all marquee's but most of them are).
They ARE all marquees, along with Juninho at Sydney. The
Phoenix are currently the only team without one.
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I was trying for a disclaimer in case I had one wrong. I hate
that.
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...as unlikely as it may sound. Of course, mod powers make it
easier to hide the evidence if it occurs 
Hard News2007-09-18 20:27:26
Hard News2007-09-18 20:27:26
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Marquee doesn't mean the best player in the team or even the best
paid - it just means that you can pay him without worrying about
the salary cap.
Yeah but it generally would be one of the top players in the team.
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On Friday night I overheard Ricki say to the bloke from 442 that
the last spot was for a marquee player. read what you want into
that.
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Surely he's not going to be a marquee... noooo!
Sign him yes, marquee no. Save the spot for someone
truely deserving when a player ends up out injured long term or
leaves.
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I think you are thinking about this the wrong way. Is he
the best marquee player ever? No. But is he the best
available? I'd say yes. Remember marquee has to be NZ
or Australian, without a club and available to link up with the
squad straight away. This is for this season only, we've
already had 4 games so the sooner we sign the better. Sure
he's a risk but compared to what else we can get I think he's a
good bet. I think also that the first games have revealed
that we are heavily reliant on Felipe and Daniel for
creativity. I think another attacking player is more
important than cover at right back if we are going to make the
playoffs which surely must be our aim now.
[QUOTE=muso]possibly we've already come close or hit the
salary cap and thus have to call him a marquee?
I think it's unlikely that we would have any room under the
cap for Elrich, unless some of our guys are seriously
underpaid. So you're probably right
james dean2007-09-18 21:49:45
Normo's coming home
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Remember marquee has to be NZ or Australian...
Is that right?
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Yeah we don't have a natural right winger providing he is in good
shape he should do well, don't think there are any better options
for the marquee available so why not I doubt he would be on big
wages anyway.
Edit: to above poster, we've used up all the import spots so the last player has to be from Aus or NZ.
herman2007-09-18 21:54:41
Edit: to above poster, we've used up all the import spots so the last player has to be from Aus or NZ.
herman2007-09-18 21:54:41
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Remember marquee has to be NZ or Australian...
Is that right?
In our case yes, because we already have our four foreign
spots filled.
Normo's coming home
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Yeah we don't have a natural right winger providing he is in good
shape he should do well, don't think there are any better options
for the marquee available so why not I doubt he would be on big
wages anyway.
Edit: to above poster, we've used up all the import spots so the last player has to be from Aus or NZ.
Edit: to above poster, we've used up all the import spots so the last player has to be from Aus or NZ.
It would allow us to go to a more standard 4-4-2 with plenty
of width which gives us increased "possibilities" as Rafa would
say...
Normo's coming home
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exciting!
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Marquee doesn't mean the best player in the team or even the best
paid - it just means that you can pay him without worrying about
the salary cap.
couldnt have said it better. i'm going to guess we are close to the cap already
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if hes wat he was like in the old nsl he could be a great siging he
was quality for hu ever he played for myta bin paramata power not
sure but i think he will do well even for a marquee
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I might be wrong .. but..
Just because we have not signed a "marquee "player yet, it does not follow that the player we sign to be the last member of this squad will be a marquee player.
Looking at the picture we are getting of Elrich, he does not qualify as my idea of a marquee player, namely a player of above average ability who attracts a top fee and that fee is found outside the salary cap.
However it looks as if he could be very useful as an attacking player and if he is creative and a good finisher, (whats his record there? ) then he's as good an option as any other names being floated around.
Just because we have not signed a "marquee "player yet, it does not follow that the player we sign to be the last member of this squad will be a marquee player.
Looking at the picture we are getting of Elrich, he does not qualify as my idea of a marquee player, namely a player of above average ability who attracts a top fee and that fee is found outside the salary cap.
However it looks as if he could be very useful as an attacking player and if he is creative and a good finisher, (whats his record there? ) then he's as good an option as any other names being floated around.
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However it looks as if he could be very useful as an attacking player and if he is creative and a good finisher, (whats his record there? ) then he's as good an option as any other names being floated around.
What other names? I don't actually think there are any
other realistic options, that's what we have to keep in mind.
Would you rather Elrich or no-one?
Normo's coming home
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Well there were quite a few lines about Raf.
Whoever the boss picks will be good enough for me, he gets it right mainly and knows how he wants to play the game
Whoever the boss picks will be good enough for me, he gets it right mainly and knows how he wants to play the game
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I'm guessing that we have already hit our salary cap or very close
to it so if we want to get another player they HAVE to be a
marquee. valeo2007-09-18 22:56:43
a.haak
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could we use the Marquee option to re-sign Felipe on a longer
contract with better terms?
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I'm guessing that we have already hit our salary cap or very close
to it so if we want to get another player they HAVE to be a
marquee.
Cant see that being the case didnt Rickie say earlier he was
keeping a spot till the next transfer window and that he would re
evaluate the squad and see how we were traveling with
injuries.I wouldnt consider Elrich a Marquee player.GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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could we use the Marquee option to re-sign Felipe on a longer
contract with better terms?
Hmm that is true. Especially if he keeps this form up over the next few games.
a.haak
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I was of the understanding that to qualify as a marquee player the
player in question should have significant international experience
and a high profile. Not sure if Elrich gets anywhere near
that. He's a good player and he'd be a great signing for the
Nix if you get him, marquee or not.
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Hmm that is true. Especially if he keeps this form up over the next
few games.
I think you have it there Valeo. I suspect we're going to want more than a couple of starts before making offers like that. He's been superb, but it's not a proven consistency yet.
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I was of the understanding that to qualify as a marquee player the
player in question should have significant international experience
and a high profile. Not sure if Elrich gets anywhere near
that. He's a good player and he'd be a great signing for the
Nix if you get him, marquee or not.
In theory, yes.
In practice it gets relaxed by the FFA for the Aussies. FFS if Ante Covic was given marquee status almost anyone can.
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tony p was quoted saying in todays dom post that there was gonna be
no marquee player
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Because the side is competitive without one and there is no need to
waste money ?
Because the only non-foreign option is Elrich and he is rumoured to be unfit and has a long history of injury ?
Could be any number of reasons, but these two would convince me pretty quickly.
Because the only non-foreign option is Elrich and he is rumoured to be unfit and has a long history of injury ?
Could be any number of reasons, but these two would convince me pretty quickly.
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tony p was quoted saying in todays dom post that there was gonna be
no marquee player�
[/QUOTE]
No he wasn't
[quote=Tony P (from the DomPost)]Who is say we are not getting a marquee player [as well]
[/QUOTE]
No he wasn't
[quote=Tony P (from the DomPost)]Who is say we are not getting a marquee player [as well]
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just saw this on Sydney Morning Herald site
May help shed some light
http://www.smh.com.au/news/a-league/cashedup-kiwis-may-beat-sydney-in-race-for-elrich/2007/09/18/1189881512775.html
May help shed some light
http://www.smh.com.au/news/a-league/cashedup-kiwis-may-beat-sydney-in-race-for-elrich/2007/09/18/1189881512775.html
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Yeah, was going to post it as news but the Mayoralty thing has
taken over for the day.
We'll be back to news tonight or tomorrow.
We'll be back to news tonight or tomorrow.
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Think Terry also stated in the same article that a marquee player
is still not out of the picture.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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Yea i would tend to agree there. It would be good to have a player
of his calibre at the club but there is a chance it may disrupt the
flow and dynamics of the team so it may not work out for the best.
Theres also that concern that he might be a player prone to
injury
(touch wood), although i think
that may be a rather far fetched statment to make, can only wait
and see. All matters aside there are very positive signs coming out
of the club thus far, what Riki's doing is superb and can only hope
things will continue, which im sure they will! 
(touch wood), although i think
that may be a rather far fetched statment to make, can only wait
and see. All matters aside there are very positive signs coming out
of the club thus far, what Riki's doing is superb and can only hope
things will continue, which im sure they will!
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they're professionals, surely a new player isn't gonna disrupt them too much? who is this Elrich, Paul Henry II or something?!
I like tautologies because I like them.
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imagine Paul Henry at right wing [shudder]
Cosimo2007-09-19 19:44:14
I like tautologies because I like them.
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only if he can play for the opposition and is about to receive a
hospital pass with Ross Aloisi 3 metres away and closing
(and if this too OTT mods, apologies, can i ask was it the
topic or the language in the last one that caused the problem?,
just so as i can know what not to do)
tigers2007-09-19 19:49:13
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Delete some PM's and I'll tell you !
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it's not so much the words, Tigers, more the menace that bubbles below the surface
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Delete some PM's and I'll tell you !
done HN
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