WPM FFA Cup vs Melbourne City | Wed 5th Jan | 9:30pm | My Football (YouTube)

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So you only want to come home for a holiday then? 
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Why didnt you come home in March of 2020? Genuine interest.
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OK.  Covid infections up (much more infectious but greatly weakened), but hospitaitsations in the UK quite low given its freezing outside right now.  All thanks to the various jabs out there so yes getting on top mortality wise.  We still have the flu running about too but no one makes much noise about that anymore it seems.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/hospitals

And no, I'm no covid denier, anitivaxxer or other crazy, just sick of nearly two years of being locked out of my own country like many others and seeing first hand the effects of the current wave.

And I've no time for that clown and his cronies in Westminster.
 

Unless your a backpacker you cant exactly up sticks and leave on a whim.  

There are many personal reasons as there will be for every other kiwi stuck outside NZ including AWs etc.  

I'd likely be on the dole queue if I came home as my industry aviation/tourism, is on its knees, especially in NZ, where the largest employer (Air NZ) has got rid of hundreds of staff and stopped being a major player in the industry.  Its also not a great company to work for.
 
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Number8, why would we be without hooper? 
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Number8, why would we be without hooper? 

I thought he’s still on his way back? He missed game on the Weekend.
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No, he's back, he just couldn't travel to Adelaide as they have different border restrictions to nsw and Vic. The team were apparently surprised that South Australia wouldn't let him cross the border. 
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Can we keep our cup run going?? Looks like its the only possible silverware this season. Lets go!
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Hopefully our loss won't be as bad as the losses to Jets and Adelaide.
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Payne is sounding more and more like a leader. He might well have been named leader if he hadn't had the infamous golfcart outing!
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Payne is sounding more and more like a leader. He might well have been named leader if he hadn't had the infamous golfcart outing!
 
Would that have played much of a factor, it was a one-off sorta thing, and it seems counter-productive to have named Rufer captain. Also, Payne was joined by Sail on that night, yet Sail still got the vice-captaincy, so I’m not sure that occasion was high on Talay’s considerations.
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Could having the Captaincy be distracting Rufer from playing well??
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Could having the Captaincy be distracting Rufer from playing well??

No.
Someone posted stats that Rufer is actually a good midfielder. But he got dragged halftime when he was literally on notice from the coach. I guess the coach did not trust him to bring more forward energy into the game and also don’t think his leadership is needed to turn a game at halftime.
I won’t blame the bad performances on Rufer,  all of the team played bad. In dire times many people think a fearless superhuman leader can turn a game, but I don’t think that is how it works.
We also we have to talk about Uffi, he promised us that we won’t play that bad again, and it may was not as shark as the Jets game, but is was very close.
Easiest is to blamed the covid situation, but the team need to turn it around. I hope they can it it to some degree, Hooper is back and new players are also coming into the mix.
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Is Piscopo available?
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I believe players need to stand down for 7 days after a positive covid test. So I don't think Piscopo will play. Hopper should be good to go. Might not get a full 90 min though after his time away from the training field.
I really hope we don't see Lewis and Rufer start together in midfield again. Can't keeping doing the same thing and expect different results. 
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Lonegunmen
Could having the Captaincy be distracting Rufer from playing well??

No.
Someone posted stats that Rufer is actually a good midfielder. But he got dragged halftime when he was literally on notice from the coach. I guess the coach did not trust him to bring more forward energy into the game and also don’t think his leadership is needed to turn a game at halftime.
I won’t blame the bad performances on Rufer,  all of the team played bad. In dire times many people think a fearless superhuman leader can turn a game, but I don’t think that is how it works.
We also we have to talk about Uffi, he promised us that we won’t play that bad again, and it may was not as shark as the Jets game, but is was very close.
Easiest is to blamed the covid situation, but the team need to turn it around. I hope they can it it to some degree, Hooper is back and new players are also coming into the mix.

Actually, I have no problem with Uffi. What people do not seem to accept is that we lost a core of experienced seasoned players from one season to the next. Of all of these, perhaps only Marinovic departure we can live with.  No disrespect, but it is naive to expect that our current lineup is able to compete at this level, without Devlin, Hemed, Davila and Taylor.
COVID is a factor but only an indirect cause for our maladies.  COVID costs the club a lot of money, and that money could have been spent on holding on to our excellent imports (Hemed, Davila) or to bring new ones in to replace the likes of Taylor in a timely fashion.
I agree with others that the club would not be fielding a Womens side if they had significant money issues. However, spending a season in Australia (again) is expensive and a pragmatic approach is at play:  play with what we have, get some players on loan, and accept that this a write-off season.  Most, if not all, A-League clubs have them. Two years ago we finished third, so I know Uffie is a capable coach, but he is fielding a shadow of a competent team this year. 
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The team tried to hold onto He'd and Davilla, the issue with recruitment was about MIQ not money.Hooperr is an upgrade on Hemed, so our loss is Davilla and Taylor. 
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Ryan
The team tried to hold onto He'd and Davilla, the issue with recruitment was about MIQ not money.Hooperr is an upgrade on Hemed, so our loss is Davilla and Taylor. 
 I would count loss of Devlin here as well.  
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Lonegunmen
Could having the Captaincy be distracting Rufer from playing well??

No.
Someone posted stats that Rufer is actually a good midfielder. But he got dragged halftime when he was literally on notice from the coach. I guess the coach did not trust him to bring more forward energy into the game and also don’t think his leadership is needed to turn a game at halftime.
I won’t blame the bad performances on Rufer,  all of the team played bad. In dire times many people think a fearless superhuman leader can turn a game, but I don’t think that is how it works.
We also we have to talk about Uffi, he promised us that we won’t play that bad again, and it may was not as shark as the Jets game, but is was very close.
Easiest is to blamed the covid situation, but the team need to turn it around. I hope they can it it to some degree, Hooper is back and new players are also coming into the mix.

Actually, I have no problem with Uffi. What people do not seem to accept is that we lost a core of experienced seasoned players from one season to the next. Of all of these, perhaps only Marinovic departure we can live with.  No disrespect, but it is naive to expect that our current lineup is able to compete at this level, without Devlin, Hemed, Davila and Taylor.
COVID is a factor but only an indirect cause for our maladies.  COVID costs the club a lot of money, and that money could have been spent on holding on to our excellent imports (Hemed, Davila) or to bring new ones in to replace the likes of Taylor in a timely fashion.
I agree with others that the club would not be fielding a Womens side if they had significant money issues. However, spending a season in Australia (again) is expensive and a pragmatic approach is at play:  play with what we have, get some players on loan, and accept that this a write-off season.  Most, if not all, A-League clubs have them. Two years ago we finished third, so I know Uffie is a capable coach, but he is fielding a shadow of a competent team this year. 

Yeah but the cash bleeding of being based in NSW is only one Covid related issue. 

No Covid Taylor stays. No Covid easier to sign/attract visa players. No Covid Nix get big lift from playing half their games in front of their home supporters. No Covid and players with families like Ball & Hooper have some off field stability with their kids in Welly schools etc etc. No Covid and players sleep in their own beds, with welcome time away from  each other and football in general - that's harder based in Sydney with all the uncertainty of what is happening week to week.

Look at the Breakers. They'll struggling also. Dead last 6 losses from 6.

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Hey look, at least we’re not Manchester United!
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It’s tomorrow (Wed) right?
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Ryan
The team tried to hold onto He'd and Davilla, the issue with recruitment was about MIQ not money.Hooperr is an upgrade on Hemed, so our loss is Davilla and Taylor. 
 I would count loss of Devlin here as well.  

I would almost say Devlin has been our biggest loss. Really missing that energy and tenacity in midfield and none of the current guys seem to be able to replicate that atm.
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I think Taylors our biggest loss. 
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/300490148/wellington-phoenixs-ffa-cup-rivals-melbourne-city-report-all-but-five-players-had-covid19

The Nix will miss two of their own as they recover from coronavirus, with Talay saying the club may have avoided greater spread given players weren't able to spend time with family over Christmas.

"The players are trying to be smart in the decisions they make," he said.

"Hopefully not clubbing. Our players are pretty young ... half of them wouldn't get into nightclubs anyway."

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It’s tomorrow (Wed) right?
Yep, someones got the days mixed up and has put Tuesday in the thread title.
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So will this game get the go ahead? Or is Kisnorbo possibly referring to his players having 'had covid' at some stage, rather than those who currently have it? Can't see how it will go ahead if it's the latter...

If it is on, surely we'd have to fancy our chances against a City yoof team.
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So will this game get the go ahead? Or is Kisnorbo possibly referring to his players having 'had covid' at some stage, rather than those who currently have it? Can't see how it will go ahead if it's the latter...

If it is on, surely we'd have to fancy our chances against a City yoof team.

Having put money on TAB this season on us beating the Jets, WSW, Sydney FC and Adelaide, I decided not to do it for this game just on the off chance this would help us.
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I believe players need to stand down for 7 days after a positive covid test. So I don't think Piscopo will play. Hopper should be good to go. Might not get a full 90 min though after his time away from the training field.
I really hope we don't see Lewis and Rufer start together in midfield again. Can't keeping doing the same thing and expect different results. 

If Hopper is indeed good to go, I hope it is the Easy Rider version and not the Blue Velvet version.
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I don't know, I'd like the intensity of the blue velvet version. 
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Who starts at FB and in midfield? 
Uffie seems to be back to the drawing board. 
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martinb
Who starts at FB and in midfield? 
Uffie seems to be back to the drawing board. 
I'd have Sutton and Fenton as FB's. Lewis and Pennington as DM's
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Pennington was poor at RB when he came on last week (interesting Laws was pushed forward and not him in DM).

At this stage, I don't care how we line up, I just want to see us create something/anything and be competative.
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i can't wait for the game! it's a chance to put things right. 

pre-season (by all accounts) and in the first two games we were a tidy outfit, capable of taking points off any team. fingers crossed for a return to this tonight!
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So will this game get the go ahead? Or is Kisnorbo possibly referring to his players having 'had covid' at some stage, rather than those who currently have it? Can't see how it will go ahead if it's the latter...

If it is on, surely we'd have to fancy our chances against a City yoof team.

Having put money on TAB this season on us beating the Jets, WSW, Sydney FC and Adelaide, I decided not to do it for this game just on the off chance this would help us.

Thank you for your services. Condolences to your wallet too. 😂
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Pennington was poor at RB when he came on last week (interesting Laws was pushed forward and not him in DM).

At this stage, I don't care how we line up, I just want to see us create something/anything and be competative.
Did the commentators say that Sutton is more a midfielder that has been deployed as a FB. 

Could bring some bite to midfield. 

Left field: Fenton an option to play midfield.
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Finally gonna see the Pennington Lewis midfield combo. Rufer at CB will be interesting.
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Three Wellington Phoenix players have returned inconsistent rapid antigen tests for COVID-19 and aren’t being considered for tonight’s FFA Cup quarter-final against Melbourne City in Melbourne.
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Finally gonna see the Pennington Lewis midfield combo. Rufer at CB will be interesting.

Thought that myself. Sink or swim time indeed. Will be interesting to see how that unfolds. 

City have named a stronger lineup than would have been suggested earlier on in the week.

Time for the boys to stand up and be counted. COYN! 

WPM FFA Cup vs Melbourne City | Wed 5th Jan | 9:30pm | My Football (YouTube)

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