Had a bloody good laugh at shirts off at the mad dash by one of their fans to get shots of the girls in their bras. I'm guessing girls your all a big hit on chinese social media sites LOL
Or appear in some porn magazine.
(--)
I am more worried that before too long YF will approached with a massive transfer offer for our brassed-up Feverettes.
We all know how loaded these Chinese clubs are.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Small sample size, but if that is the threshold for the VAR to flag incidents to the ref, and if each referral takes 90 seconds to decide (either confirming decision or overturning), then I'm not sure it's really worth it. I've seen HAL games this season that would have had 4/5 of those incidents in a game.
Did they announce the attendance?
sa`n qia~n
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
No Rufer... was looking forward to seeing him play the DM role.
One saving grace perhaps of the VRS is that we may see more goals from set pieces and corners etc... the amount of holding etc that defenders particularly get away with is terrible... a little less grabbing may see more goals.
Also, the amount of goals disallowed for fouls on the keeper or stopping of play for apparent fouls might stop with play allowed to continue and checked afterwards.
All good outcomes IMO.
No Rufer... was looking forward to seeing him play the DM role.
One saving grace perhaps of the VRS is that we may see more goals from set pieces and corners etc... the amount of holding etc that defenders particularly get away with is terrible... a little less grabbing may see more goals.
Also, the amount of goals disallowed for fouls on the keeper or stopping of play for apparent fouls might stop with play allowed to continue and checked afterwards.
All good outcomes IMO.
Good lateral thinking..more penalties which we would need to practise for.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
Did they announce the attendance?
sa`n qia~n
2503? ;>)
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
Regarding Lonegunman's point on the appropriateness (or not) of some chants and comments - personally I didn't hear anything that 'crossed the line' in my opinion (I may have missed something of course), though I though one or two might have got close ('One-China policy'?)and was kinda expecting to hear something truly cringe-worthy - but it didn't seem to come to that. In fact it seemed folks toned it down a bit compared with usual. I felt bad when the chant 'Beijing are Rubbish' started up as the Chinese folk down the front seemed so nice and appeared to be really enjoying the interactions. Overall I think I think they probably found it fun and mutual, judging by the grins, and the drumming exchanges certainly helped with that. It was great to see the Grannies and Kiddies down the front all hammering away at various times - plus Patricks session with them was a highlight (along of course with the whole rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody!).
The message seems to be have fun and enjoy good banter with the other teams fans - make it fun and funny for everyone else in the crowd - I think that could be the secret to getting a unique 'Phoenix-Crowd' experience that attracts in others. Perhaps that might also be more of a draw-card than the football itself at the moment.
Last night showed we could win - now only if we could score!
You really can't write off VAR entirely based off one decision.
The major time delays come from the ref running to and from the screen - not something that needs to happen/will happen every time - it will become like rugby/league/cricket/every other sport where the TMO makes the final decision, not the referee.
The decision itself was a complete shank, but that's not surprising given who the refs were. I'm really looking forward to round 26, 27 and the finals to see how it plays out in actual games, there's definite potential here to make it a (long overdue) part of the game.
Valley FC til I die?
The major time delays come from the ref running to and from the screen - not something that needs to happen/will happen every time - it will become like rugby/league/cricket/every other sport where the TMO makes the final decision, not the referee.
Though you still have the problem of the game being ready to be restarted with a goal kick, but the VAR holding up play to consider the incident.
The penalty was for someone shoving someone else in an area of play that did not interfer with the ball and the attack. Therefore I would have either had a chat to the defender or carded him, but I would not have given a penalty. Perhaps a free kick. I hope this does not come in to football. All I want is goal line technology and if the ball did or did not completely cross the line.
In terms of the Laws Of The Game, it's irrelevant whether there was interference with the ball or the attack. The shove itself is the offence.
Watching the eyes it didn't look like a shove, but a collision
Things like VAR are never going to be perfect when it's first implemented. Yes it might suck in the short term, but there is potential for huge benefits long term if they can develop it into a product that is beneficial to the quality of the decisions, without hugely interrupting the flow of the game. It has been mentioned that 4-5 in a game would be too disruptive, and to me if it is needed 4-5 times a game then questions need to be asked about the refs, if they are making that many game changing mistakes. Would think a usual game would only need 1-2 maximum if the refs are up to standard.
And that has been an issue in every other sport it has been brought into. And the problem is that it will be used in tough 50/50 decisions that will need to be viewed multiple times to get a result, sometimes minutes after the incident has occoured if the ball does not go out of play for a while.
Exactly. What are the guidelines given to the VAR ? Is it any missed incidents that could be yellow/red cards, handballs, penalties? And presumably the VAR can go the other way and potentially overturn such a decision made by the ref??
No Rufer... was looking forward to seeing him play the DM role.
One saving grace perhaps of the VRS is that we may see more goals from set pieces and corners etc... the amount of holding etc that defenders particularly get away with is terrible... a little less grabbing may see more goals.
Also, the amount of goals disallowed for fouls on the keeper or stopping of play for apparent fouls might stop with play allowed to continue and checked afterwards.
All good outcomes IMO.
Good lateral thinking..more penalties which we would need to practise for.
oh god yes, Kostas penalty was diabolical and very lucky to go in. Finkler does at least look like he can take a penalty.
By my reckoning we have now played matches against clubs from 5 of the 6 football playing continents. (Not Confederations)
If anyone sees Domey can they suggest we play an African club next (he surely has J. Brockie saved in his phone)...
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
The major time delays come from the ref running to and from the screen - not something that needs to happen/will happen every time - it will become like rugby/league/cricket/every other sport where the TMO makes the final decision, not the referee.
Though you still have the problem of the game being ready to be restarted with a goal kick, but the VAR holding up play to consider the incident.
Definitely, but if play is held up for ~30 seconds as they claim to be doing in Germany then I have no qualms about the timeframe.
Valley FC til I die?
How much friendliness was there? Seemed that Beijing were getting a bit pissed off at the end.
Did the players have drinks or anything
I noticed two groups of Chinese supporters last night. Which was good to see.
The 60 odd that were mentioned in front of the Yellow Fever zone.....And the 250-350 odd down past half way line.
Assume there is quite a big Chinese community in the Wellington region. Wonder if any will come back on Saturday?
Masters Grade aint no run in the park on a Saturday...
lols
barely any comment about the players or the game itself in the entire thread
thank god for the VAR!
And - so what's up with Rufer. Is he injured?
I can't wait until it goes live in the A-league. Imagine the angst.
Probably the only positive.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I noticed two groups of Chinese supporters last night. Which was good to see.
The 60 odd that were mentioned in front of the Yellow Fever zone.....And the 250-350 odd down past half way line.
Assume there is quite a big Chinese community in the Wellington region. Wonder if any will come back on Saturday?
We were definitely outflagged, plus a bit of drum envy :-)
If this friendly match is to be a regular event a lot more thought should be put into its timing and promotion by WCC & The Phoenix. The natural place for the game on the calendar is in the build up to the Chinese NY and as that's during the school holidays why not make it an late afternoon/early evening mid-week kick-off, free for kids and a nominal charge if any for accompanying adults.
If this friendly match is to be a regular event a lot more thought should be put into its timing and promotion by WCC & The Phoenix. The natural place for the game on the calendar is in the build up to the Chinese NY and as that's during the school holidays why not make it an late afternoon/early evening mid-week kick-off, free for kids and a nominal charge if any for accompanying adults.
If this friendly match is to be a regular event a lot more thought should be put into its timing and promotion by WCC & The Phoenix. The natural place for the game on the calendar is in the build up to the Chinese NY and as that's during the school holidays why not make it an late afternoon/early evening mid-week kick-off, free for kids and a nominal charge if any for accompanying adults.
Well it was scheduled during an unusual 9 days between mid-season games, right at the end of a weekend of Chinese New Year celebrations in Wellington. So in terms of scheduling I don't think it was that bad.
If this friendly match is to be a regular event a lot more thought should be put into its timing and promotion by WCC & The Phoenix. The natural place for the game on the calendar is in the build up to the Chinese NY and as that's during the school holidays why not make it an late afternoon/early evening mid-week kick-off, free for kids and a nominal charge if any for accompanying adults.
Well it was scheduled during an unusual 9 days between mid-season games, right at the end of a weekend of Chinese New Year celebrations in Wellington. So in terms of scheduling I don't think it was that bad.
Scheduling midweek on a school night and on Valentines Day is not good for the hoped for family audience target.
The initial promotion and advertising was poor, consisting of a premature leak on Ticketek newsletter and grudging acknowledgement by Wellington Phoenix in Stuff that they'll release some details the next day
In terms of the Laws Of The Game, it's irrelevant whether there was interference with the ball or the attack. The shove itself is the offence.
Watching the eyes it didn't look like a shove, but a collision
Yeah, he clipped him as they ran into the box. Probably accidentally. My point was more about the fact that intent and proximity aren't an issue.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
He was in contact [holding] him on the edge of the box and I think the push/trip/nudge inside the box was a continuation of that intent. good call.
On the crowd and timing of the game. I don't think the Nix really cared about trying to market the game and have a crowd there. It felt more like they where doing the game for the Wellington City Council (Sister City) and the sponsors. So they did it where there was the biggest gap between A-league games and used it as a practice match going by the 4-2-2 formation they used and the different players.
On the crowd and timing of the game. I don't think the Nix really cared about trying to market the game and have a crowd there. It felt more like they where doing the game for the Wellington City Council (Sister City) and the sponsors. So they did it where there was the biggest gap between A-league games and used it as a practice match going by the 4-2-2 formation they used and the different players.
Was still fun to see something different. I hope we get more.
It didn't have the stomach churning that a lot of matches have had and it was a chance to see players like Singh, Ridenton, Parkhouse, McGarry and others on a big stage...
Good to Singh into the match day squad on the strength of it too, albeit with two to be omitted.
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
i was looking to get 3 shirts signed at this, but did not get as many to sign as i thought i would be able to. only managed 7 signatures on one shirt and with only 3 games left in wellington i do not think i will get everyone in the squad to sign. this is one problem of being an out of town supporter, also with the squad likely to be a little different next season these 3 games are all i have left to get everyone.
If this friendly match is to be a regular event a lot more thought should be put into its timing and promotion by WCC & The Phoenix. The natural place for the game on the calendar is in the build up to the Chinese NY and as that's during the school holidays why not make it an late afternoon/early evening mid-week kick-off, free for kids and a nominal charge if any for accompanying adults.
At least the FFA are usually to blame. Not sure who scheduled it this time? I'll be honest, I didn't go because I couldn't be arsed, despite having a season ticket. I barely watched on TV either. Nix have been so horrible for the last couple of seasons I am losing interest. If it's crap weather tomorrow night, I ain't going either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
I think there are a lot of fans now thinking like thst, hence th <6k attendences, so what are the owners going to do about it?
