He wants 100% payout on his contract.
We should have signed him on a dollars per minute basis - and then 10 of us could have seen (edit = sent) him off with a whip round.
Those MOM polls must have gone to his head.
Hopefully, it'll get sorted in our favour.
tigers2007-11-15 11:39:07
[edited by smithy: in case anyone else is struggling to find
the story, the relevant bit is:
There are other money issues at the club too. Mr Pignata confirmed yesterday that Brazilian midfielder George is seeking full payment of his contract after being axed by the Phoenix earlier this month.
"At the moment we are talking with the PFA (Professional Footballers Association) in Australia and we are trying to settle the matter as quickly as possible. He is seeking a full payout ... but we believe our offer is fair and reasonable."
Mr Pignata refused to say how much the contract was worth, or what the Phoenix offered as compensation to George, who was axed along with fellow Brazilian Cleberson.]
We should have signed him on a dollars per minute basis - and then 10 of us could have seen (edit = sent) him off with a whip round.
Those MOM polls must have gone to his head.
Hopefully, it'll get sorted in our favour.
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take the $ and leave you poison dwarf
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I can't understand where Benjamin and (I think) Black Plauge are
now? They were the ones claiming that George was the best
player on the planet, and would score 40 goals for us this season,
despite not being able to control a ball.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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take the $ and leave you poison dwarf
Stop that!
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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I can't understand where Benjamin and (I think) Black Plauge are
now? They were the ones claiming that George was the best
player on the planet, and would score 40 goals for us this season,
despite not being able to control a ball.
Still here Frankie, and as I mentioned on another thread -
I've been very dissapointed by George this season (he doesn't
appear to be the player he was pre-Portugal), but also by Ricki's
decisions regarding the lad - he's a striker and he's mainly been
used as an advanced midfield, in Brasil he had the ball played
ahead of him to run onto, here he's had the ball into him with his
back to goal... Didn't suit him.
At the end of the day, he didn't do enough to warrent staying
at the club and problems needed sorting elsewhere (namely - at the
back). Ricki's tactic of playing 4-4-1-1 and the signing of
Elrich pretty much killed George off.
But like I said, very dissapointed with the lad.
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take the $ and leave you poison dwarf
Poison because he expects his employer to fulfill their
contractual obligation?
If it was a 'mutual' decision to end his contract, as the club
originally suggested, then I'm sure he wouldn't be haggling.
Ricki got his scouting wrong and the club should pay the
price.
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good of you to admit that. 
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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I can't understand where Benjamin and (I think) Black Plauge are
now? They were the ones claiming that George was the best
player on the planet, and would score 40 goals for us this season,
despite not being able to control a ball.
Obviously he controls his bank account a lot better than he
did a football.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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take the $ and leave you poison dwarf
Poison because he expects his employer to fulfill their
contractual obligation?
If it was a 'mutual' decision to end his contract, as the club
originally suggested, then I'm sure he wouldn't be haggling.
Ricki got his scouting wrong and the club should pay the
price.
i agree, if i was in his place id be after the full amount
too. id feel a bit aggrieved if i was him, never given a proper
chance, played out of position, only used for 10 or 15mins
cameos.
both releasees were bloody hard done by, and i wouldnt be
suprised to see either of them sign for other a-league clubs,
especially cleberson.
just because a player didnt work out the way the coach wanted
him too doesnt mean that player should just accept less then what
he's owed and leave.
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Doubt we'll be seeing them play for another A League team. Think
they're the only two Brazilians I've ever seen who couldn't play
football 
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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good of you to admit that. [/QUOTE]
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I say it like I see it, mate.
[QUOTE=rodfarva]i agree, if i was in his place id be after the
full amount too. id feel a bit aggrieved if i was him, never given
a proper chance, played out of position, only used for 10 or 15mins
cameos.
both releasees were bloody hard done by, and i wouldnt be
suprised to see either of them sign for other a-league clubs,
especially cleberson.
just because a player didnt work out the way the coach wanted
him too doesnt mean that player should just accept less then what
he's owed and leave.
I'd be very surprised to see him stay in Australia...
From what I've heard he couldn't wait to get back to Brasil and see
his kids.
Would love to see George sign for Perth to be honest, and get
a run up front as an out and out striker... It'd be
interesting to see if he's still got it.
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They could sign for a state Premier League Club if they don't make the A-League
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Clebo for Team Welly... you heard it here first !
(Disclaimer : I'm making it up, it's pretty much just garbage).
(Disclaimer : I'm making it up, it's pretty much just garbage).
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I wouldn't mind seeing either of them play for Team
Wellington
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Would love to see George sign for Perth to be honest, and get
a run up front as an out and out striker... It'd be
interesting to see if he's still got it.
He couldn't be worse than Robinson...
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Would love to see George sign for Perth to be honest, and get
a run up front as an out and out striker... It'd be
interesting to see if he's still got it.
He couldn't be worse than Robinson...
I think the reason Robinson so often ends up flat on his back
after he's had a shot, is that he's trying to see where the ball
went...
"You've nailed it in a nutshell." - Mark Rudan
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George didn't impress. That's for sure.
He didn't have many opportunities, also, to be fair.
The team axed him and he should be compensated for that.
That's just plain right.
If tomorrow your employer decides that you're not good enough at work and sacks you, you get compensation. That's how it goes. He might be greedy, or he might be doing this just as a revenge, I agree with you, but it's in his rights - and I'd probably do the same if I didn't make the cut.
If tomorrow your employer decides that you're not good enough at work and sacks you, you get compensation. That's how it goes. He might be greedy, or he might be doing this just as a revenge, I agree with you, but it's in his rights - and I'd probably do the same if I didn't make the cut.
At least, they could have played him a few more times and see
how he went. he really got bugger all chances. Old and O'Dor might
have been axed as well at this point.
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I think george should sign for melbourne...they need someone who
can score goals
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At least, they could have played him a few more times and see how he went. he really got bugger all chances.
This isn't the under-8s where everyone gets a go and MOTM is
shared around. He wasn't good enough to be picked - end of
story.
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Hey man, I never said that George was a great player, I had hope he
was, like everyone else. But hey what can we do.
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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I can't understand where Benjamin and (I think) Black Plauge are
now? They were the ones claiming that George was the best
player on the planet, and would score 40 goals for us this season,
despite not being able to control a ball.
Obviously he controls his bank account a lot better than he
did a football.
Wait a minute. If you signed a contract to work abroad and moved your girlfriend and your life to the other side of the world, and your contract was for a year, you would expect the full payment for the year. If ricky wasnt going to fufill a contract he shouldnt have signed him.
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It would depend on why the contract was ended. If you
breached the agreement in some way you may be entitled to less or
none.
Basically we know F*&k all of the facts.
Basically we know F*&k all of the facts.
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I'm not particularly upset by him asking for the dosh, just about
how disappointing he was on the park.
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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If ricky wasnt going to fufill a contract he shouldnt have
signed him.
How would he have known he wasn't going to fulfill the
contract?
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I'm not particularly upset by him asking for the dosh, just about
how disappointing he was on the park.
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
nice point
he
did not meet his potential that is why he was given the
arse
simple
really
he
did not meet his potential that is why he was given the
arse simple
really
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I wouldn't mind seeing either of them play for Team
Wellington
wow are they that good ?!?!?!
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At least, they could have played him a few more times and see how he went. he really got bugger all chances.
This isn't the under-8s where everyone gets a go and MOTM is
shared around. He wasn't good enough to be picked - end of
story.
the thing is, how do you know? he played nothing but the
sporadic last 10' here and there.
Besides, if he really wasn't up to the A-League standards
perhaps we shouldn't have signed him since the beginning. Although
we did get 2 stars such as Felipe and Daniel..but I mean, if you
watch a player's DVD you should be able to tell whether he's total
rubbish, OK, or an awesome players.
My problem is that I think that in the XXI century everyone is
'decent' at playing footy, cause the sport has been playing for
more than a 100 years. So it's not hard to sign a 5/10 player
nowadays, but as the standards improve worldwide you need better
and better players everyday.
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Cleberson has accepted a mutual termination which involves a figure
in which both parties agree. Cleberson would love to stay on in NZ,
so who knows?
However, George is looking for the full amount. The chances of
George staying in NZ or moving to Australia are zero. There are
some SERIOUS behind the scenes stuff involving George that Phoenix
could hold against him.
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Cleberson has accepted a mutual termination which involves a figure
in which both parties agree. Cleberson would love to stay on in NZ,
so who knows?
However, George is looking for the full amount. The chances of
George staying in NZ or moving to Australia are zero. There are
some SERIOUS behind the scenes stuff involving George that Phoenix
could hold against him.
Welcome back Mr Rallis, still looking after your client,
I see.
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If they pay him the full amount - they should make him drive
taxis for the next few months. Might as well get an income out of
him
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If they pay him the full amount - they should make him drive
taxis for the next few months. Might as well get an income out of
him
Yeah, he can start by picking me up at the Airport
tomorrow..
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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the thing is, how do you know? he played nothing but the
sporadic last 10' here and there.
- speaking to people involved with the club who train with, or
watch him train, every day
- watching him at training personally
- watching him in those 10 minute spells
There is a lot more to it than watching a 90 minute game once
a week. Believe or not the Phoenix exist outside of the time
that we watch them on TV or at the stadium. Liverpoolfan1
knows more than most on here
Normo's coming home
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I'm not particularly upset by him asking for the dosh, just about
how disappointing he was on the park.
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
I did sign a contract before I moved here, but I didn't get released from my contract. Maybe I'm just good at my job
nice point he
did not meet his potential that is why he was given the
arse simple
really
he
did not meet his potential that is why he was given the
arse simple
reallyHow do we know he didn't "meet his potential". Probably he
had. His potential just wasn't as good as what the Phoenix
thought.
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At least, they could have played him a few more times and see how he went. he really got bugger all chances.
This isn't the under-8s where everyone gets a go and MOTM is
shared around. He wasn't good enough to be picked - end of
story.
Completely agree. However the club agreed a contract and
therefore should do the right thing and pay what's due. Just
goes to show that not all Brazillians are great (i've seen some
dodgy ones at Mermaids too!)
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At least, they could have played him a few more times and see how he went. he really got bugger all chances.
This isn't the under-8s where everyone gets a go and MOTM is
shared around. He wasn't good enough to be picked - end of
story.
the thing is, how do you know? he played nothing but the
sporadic last 10' here and there.
Besides, if he really wasn't up to the A-League standards
perhaps we shouldn't have signed him since the beginning. Although
we did get 2 stars such as Felipe and Daniel..but I mean, if you
watch a player's DVD you should be able to tell whether he's total
rubbish, OK, or an awesome players.
My problem is that I think that in the XXI century everyone is
'decent' at playing footy, cause the sport has been playing for
more than a 100 years. So it's not hard to sign a 5/10 player
nowadays, but as the standards improve worldwide you need better
and better players everyday.
Now I know I've written some dross in my time but this takes
the bisciut........ If we had a team of 5/10 players (compared to
any European Prem Division side) we'd be 12 points clear at the top
and already celebrating the championship.
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Fair call that - there is a vast difference in the quality of
football at the moment.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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"However, George is looking for the full amount. The chances of George staying in NZ or moving to Australia are zero. There are some SERIOUS behind the scenes stuff involving George that Phoenix could hold against him."
What are the serious behind the scenes stuff?loyalgunner2007-11-17 14:05:58
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i think they just realised he sent them dvds of Kaka playing, not
himself
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