Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
YF
Without any malice or disrespect intended I would like to say that football in Australia has moved on a lot over the past 20 years and NZ has stood still. This is not the fault of anyone in particular rather than I think the realization in Australia by business and government of what football has to offer both on and off the field. However the growth (media, and major league) in football over the past four years has been breathtaking.
The question is why, football has always had the most number of juniors, and over the past 12 or so years had 200 odd players in overseas leagues. Two words Asia & Potential.
First Asia.
What does Asia bring to Australia, and more importantly what could Asian bring to the Nix. My starting point is the size of Asia, remember in football that the Middle East is included in the AFC.
Assuming the Nix make the top two in the league table they will play in the pan Asian games broadcast across Asia & North America
Size just over 5.1 billion people less India and the Philippines 1.3 billion, leaving 3.8 billion people within AFC.
Its exciting isn�t it so lets number crunch this figure.
3.8 Billion
10% of 3.8 billion is 380 million
1% of 3.8 billion is 38 million
10% of 1% is 3.8 million
100th of 1 % is 380, 000 people which as a fraction is 0.0001 fairly small even the most conservative of accountants and business and governments hopefully would recognize this is small in the extreme.
Stas show that international tourist often travel in pairs or groups, so of the above figure we can add and again very conservatively a constant of 2.4. Again lets assume a low figure but an international tourist spent about $ 1, 750 per week and if they travel as far as NZ a 1.5 week is the norm.
So here we go, here we go (sorry it is a football site)
380, 000 people times 2.4 times 1, 750 times 1.5 equals 2,349,000,000 dollars or 2.35 billion
10% GST collections equals 234,900,000 or over a quarter of a billion dollars.
Assume much of the money is paid in wages again assume a low tax rate of 10% and another 234, 900, 000 million. Combined over half a billion dollars in tax alone which would build the odd school or pay for the odd bridge.
Lets say my already conservative figures are way over stated by a factor of four, even at a quarter of what I said the Asian input is still over 100 million.
Now lets add to that the North American income, CAN YOU HERE THE NIX SING����.BEEHIVE�����..NO NOOOOOOOOOO���.I SAY AGAIN ����.CAN YOU HERE THE NIX SING �����HOPEFULLY �����YERRRRRRRRRRRR.
On top of this is the business it may open up, I mean who in there right mind would want to sit at the table with the cream of Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Middle Eastern & North American business and government heavyweights. ANYONE WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN, even a rugby official.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you ask what are; the Australian governments doing? ? ? ?
Commonwealth government 8 million per year to fund juniors and women�s league,
3.5 million in AIS (Australian Institute of Sport cost for
Olympic and top players)
State Governments 5 million combined (Sports development programs
aimed at the best juniors)
About 4 million per Socceroo match paid by state gov
So the cities are beamed back into Asia. 5 home
matches per year. Cites are in a bidding war for
Socceroo matches.
All up about 8 + 3.5 + 5 + 20, or 36.5 million per year and growing. Five years ago maybe 1.5 million. BEEHIVE DOES THIS SCREAM AT YOU �����CAN YOU HERE THE NIX SING.
Big business is getting on board.
Beehive if you put about 3 million into the Nix�s, you could earn maybe half a billion in return, put another say 8 million into your juniors the returns are massive and far in excess of anything either rugby or yachting could even come close to.
Potential
NZ business and Government officials and pollies sit at the table with the cream of Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Middle Eastern & North American business and government heavyweights.
Impossible to put a figure on trade, influence, positioning, �anyway you look at it,�it is huge.
Over to you guys at YF hope it helps but as an Aussies that wants you to be successful (apart from when you play the Mariners) you could do with some help. The only reason our government is helping is because over time we kept putting forward arguments based on logic and figures and in time it worked. Soccer mums helped a lot to in becoming almost a demographic in themselves. I hope the Beehive will listen to you good luck and hope it helps.
Your�s in Football
Midfielder
Last words Go the Mariners F the Scum (still have not got over it so don�t ask)
Midfielder2008-03-06 22:52:05Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
Three for me, and two for them.
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Bevan2008-03-06 23:11:41
Here we go again...
Three for me, and two for them.
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
1, Discussion on Phoenix to the O-League is in the NZFC forum. NOT here. There is enough stupid in there to last me a lifetime I don't need it spreading. Any more talk on that in here WILL be deleted.
2, Midfielder, please try and change your posts to a smaller font. Some of this is nearly impossible to read on a forum format.
That is all.
1, Discussion on Phoenix to the O-League is in the NZFC forum. NOT here. There is enough stupid in there to last me a lifetime I don't need it spreading. Any more talk on that in here WILL be deleted.
2, Midfielder, please try and change your posts to a smaller font. Some of this is nearly impossible to read on a forum format.
That is all.
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
over here I say New Chealandu and half of them say Hiddink! cos they think I said Netherlands (or at least somebody did yesterday) and we're a little off the radar...or they laugh when I say how happy I am to have our fifa rating up to 91 or whatever it is now...
...politics and rants feel wrong but the people who do them well get a lot of good football and maybe the soccer world cup...it kinda sucks....
If you read Asterix when they go into the Menhir business:
big heapa people like football big heap good football play gunna be heap big money savvy?
Australia big time savvy New Zealand big time head down south where the sun don't shine...like Antarctica
martinb2008-03-06 23:29:53
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

couldn't find one with a little smily face wacking its head against the wall.. too true mate...Terry for PM! Parliament to be shifted to the ring of fire and voting eligibilty is determined by membership of yellow fever or attendance at 'Nix games!



couldn't find one with a little smily face wacking its head against the wall.. too true mate...Terry for PM! Parliament to be shifted to the ring of fire and voting eligibilty is determined by membership of yellow fever or attendance at 'Nix games!

Queenslander 3x a year.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
(Note, not necessarily calling midfielder in this group).


couldn't find one with a little smily face wacking its head against the wall.. too true mate...Terry for PM! Parliament to be shifted to the ring of fire and voting eligibilty is determined by membership of yellow fever or attendance at 'Nix games!

Thank you for your emails of 7 and 29 November 2007. I am pleased to have received the Sport and Recreation portfolio and in doing so I will be supporting the sporting sector as a whole.
Sport and Recreation New Zealand (SPARC) is the government agency responsible for promoting, encouraging and supporting physical recreation and sport. SPARC currently invests funding and support for New Zealand Football as it is recognised as a national sporting organisation. The rationale for this funding is that the organisation has the capability to increase the participation of New Zealanders and it can achieve consistent success. I agree with you that it would be great to see the All Whites qualify for the World Cup.
Thank you again for taking the time to write.
Yours sincerely
Hon Clayton Cosgrove
Minister for Sport and Recreation






Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
Data Base financial Model?
You're having a laugh.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Data Base financial Model?
You're having a laugh.
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Have to admit though that I find the way you interpret figures stretches credibility.
As an example, I find it difficult to work out where the 3.8 billion comes from, and just because the league might be available to be watched by a huge population, it doesnt follow that it will be, there are thousands of other choices out there hepatitis2008-03-07 16:32:16

