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Isaka Cernak

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about 13 years ago

martinb wrote:

We need a Berisha and a Broich. Brockie goes missing to often to be Berisha and Stein at the moment is out of form.


Actually, Berisha went missing for 5 entire games in a row last season (which is what's happened to Brockie now) but still scored 21 goals in the season. And this season? Apart from whining at the everyone (including the refs, assistants, opposition players and his tea-mates) when things aren't going his way, he's been missing in nearly all of their games. 

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago


Am hearing good things from Victory supporters, who are sad to see him go but realise that with game-time he could be very good. Personally, I welcome an attacking midfield option at this point.

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about 13 years ago

Really have to question why, considering we are trying to play a similar style to Victory and Roar, we sign a player that Ange has ditched twice already.

At least it is basically only a 3 month trial.

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about 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Really have to question why, considering we are trying to play a similar style to Victory and Roar, we sign a player that Ange has ditched twice already.

At least it is basically only a 3 month trial.

That irony has been lost I suspect.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 13 years ago

think he can play a decent passing style. he looks to pass and move and tries to keep the ball moving as much as possible.


got a feeling that he will do well for us but then leave end of season to go back to aus


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about 13 years ago

He looked pretty good. I'd slot him into the starting 11 next week ahead of either Lia or Sanchez. Fenton did OK as well, long term I think he is more suited to play central but right now I think I would put him back out wide for Boyd.

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about 13 years ago

I'd like to see him play along side Sanchez with Stein up front, a couple of his through balls to brocie look promising except that Brocki was on his heels. I guess the shape to start would look like this ideally:

moss

Bertos, Dura, Siggy, Locky/Hogg

Muscat

Fenton Sanchez Cernak Ifill

Stein

with Boyd, Hogg/Locky, Paston, Brockie benched

 

 


Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 13 years ago

despite quite liking the way boyd  plays, i also think a return to the bench could be good for him - he is young. And looked dangerous when he did come off the bench against tired legs


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about 13 years ago

 He was ok going forward, did a couple of probing passes, but looked limited in defense

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about 13 years ago

in theory if our defensive 5 was doing it's job properly we'd not need cernak and co to defend as much.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 13 years ago

 not getting the Cernak love. He was a grudging pass for mine.

Bench and squad players who should be higher up the list that him: Stein, Boyd, Totori, Sanchez and perhaps Smith and Lia.

Think he could play 4-5 games before we realise he's not a great improvement on what we've got. Always happy to be wrong, but feel he's a wide player or used to playing further forward.



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about 13 years ago

post lost respect when you said totori is better than cernak


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about 13 years ago

It's a sad indictment on our team that Cernak looked like the worst player on the pitch for Victory but looked serviceable for us compared to the rest of the dross

a.haak

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about 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

post lost respect when you said totori is better than cernak



Totori has had several massive games for us, particularly as an impact player as well as some weak ones. At his best he's able to beat players with ease. He's sealed some games for us. I haven't seen anything from Cernak for the Victory or for us yet to justify the flap. He had a few minutes where he made a couple of tackles and made a couple of passes and missed a couple of passes when he had 3 good options open.


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about 13 years ago

i guess he was just trying to make things happen. Made a great slide to cut out a pass. could tell he was frustrated by how static everyone was. He just wanted to keep the ball moving but nobody was really looking like they wanted the ball. Put through 1 or 2 decent balls which most strikers should have been able to read if their feet werent of the flat brockie variety


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about 13 years ago

martinb wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

post lost respect when you said totori is better than cernak



Totori has had several massive games for us, particularly as an impact player as well as some weak ones. At his best he's able to beat players with ease. He's sealed some games for us. I haven't seen anything from Cernak for the Victory or for us yet to justify the flap. He had a few minutes where he made a couple of tackles and made a couple of passes and missed a couple of passes when he had 3 good options open.

Serious ?
Your massive is not equal to my massive :-0

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about 13 years ago

Having watched Cernak's progress over three seasons it seems logical to me to play him in the Totori role (which he would definitely be better at) running at defenders, so I fully expect that this is precisely where he wont be played.

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about 13 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

martinb wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

post lost respect when you said totori is better than cernak



Totori has had several massive games for us, particularly as an impact player as well as some weak ones. At his best he's able to beat players with ease. He's sealed some games for us. I haven't seen anything from Cernak for the Victory or for us yet to justify the flap. He had a few minutes where he made a couple of tackles and made a couple of passes and missed a couple of passes when he had 3 good options open.

Serious ?
Your massive is not equal to my massive :-0

Amen to that. Totori should not be allowed near a football pitch higher than NRFL (Or Solomon Island team)

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 13 years ago

 Remember he had one practice session with the team of course he wasn't on the same wave length.

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about 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

It's a sad indictment on our team that Cernak looked like the worst player on the pitch for Victory but looked serviceable for us compared to the rest of the dross

Thats been going on since we started.You just have to look at the players who have chalked up 100 games for us.Some of them wouldnt have done that had they had to rely on games at some of the other A league clubs.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 13 years ago

ballane wrote:

valeo wrote:

It's a sad indictment on our team that Cernak looked like the worst player on the pitch for Victory but looked serviceable for us compared to the rest of the dross

Thats been going on since we started.You just have to look at the players who have chalked up 100 games for us.Some of them wouldnt have done that had they had to rely on games at some of the other A league clubs.


Agree, but remember that almost all players are out to shine on their debut.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 13 years ago

True but Cernak didn't exactly shine he just looked OK, which is still a long way ahead of the other central midfield options.

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about 13 years ago


Did enough for me today against Perth to say 'sign him up"

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 13 years ago

The way he beat his man on the sideline was oarsome

Founder

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about 13 years ago

Considering Cernak has had only a week and a half at the club he has shown more than enough to warrant signing up. Once he gets more familiar with the Nix style and other players he could well be a good player for us. Certainly as an attacking mid he showed more skill than we have seen from anyone in that position for a long time......now all we need is him to settle in that AM position and then Ricki can try convert and him to a winger or DM.

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about 13 years ago


Isaka is a great signing and has galvanised us in the middle- loads of energy and some great skills. I really hope we keep him for a couple of years.

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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about 13 years ago

Not ready to jump on the bandwagon yet, he wouldn't be the first player to impress early but end up mediocre (Ward). It was a good start to his Nix career, hope he builds on that.

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about 13 years ago

Not ready to jump on the bandwagon yet, he wouldn't be the first player to impress early but end up mediocre (Ward). It was a good start to his Nix career, hope he builds on that.


Elrich....



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about 13 years ago


fenton.....

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about 13 years ago

Not ready to jump on the bandwagon yet, he wouldn't be the first player to impress early but end up mediocre (Ward). It was a good start to his Nix career, hope he builds on that.



Ward was exactly the player I thought of, watching yesterday's game. Ward did that brilliant pass for Harold, and a couple of other things, and had me thinking 'Why didn't we keep him'. Then I remembered he's just as prone to hit passes to the opposition. Cernak strikes me as a similar player. Can produce some very good stuff, but not consistently. Then again, if he was doing it every game, he wouldn't be in the A-League. I though he had a good game yesterday, and the positives definitely outweighed the negatives. He's probably not the messiah, but he provided something yesterday that we've not had from anyone else for a while.


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about 13 years ago

wolfman wrote:

Not ready to jump on the bandwagon yet, he wouldn't be the first player to impress early but end up mediocre (Ward). It was a good start to his Nix career, hope he builds on that.



He's probably not the messiah

He's just a very naughty boy!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 13 years ago

Have been impressed so far. The clincher for me is that he's an Australian and therefore not taking up an import spot. Could replace any one of Smith, Totori or Sanchez (on current form) and therefore has the added bonus of freeing up an import spot for us. Sign him up.

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about 13 years ago

 ideal replacement for totori for mine, I'd love to see him and sanchez playing together.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 13 years ago

Fitzy wrote:

Have been impressed so far. The clincher for me is that he's an Australian and therefore not taking up an import spot. Could replace any one of Smith, Totori or Sanchez (on current form) and therefore has the added bonus of freeing up an import spot for us. Sign him up.

This. It's early days, but from what we have seen in the 120ish minutes he has played, is that he is definitely worthy of a place in the squad ahead of Smith/Totori.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

 You'd hope we'd have been smart enough to have a clause in his contract that we get first right of refusal if he panned out well for us.

He was quality yesterday, hopefully it continues.


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about 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Fitzy wrote:

Have been impressed so far. The clincher for me is that he's an Australian and therefore not taking up an import spot. Could replace any one of Smith, Totori or Sanchez (on current form) and therefore has the added bonus of freeing up an import spot for us. Sign him up.

This. It's early days, but from what we have seen in the 120ish minutes he has played, is that he is definitely worthy of a place in the squad ahead of Smith/Totori.

yep, for sure to all the above, the non-import advantage and him being at the very least a good cut above our bench, based on what we have seen
hopefully he's just as keen to sign as most of us are keen to have him sign
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about 13 years ago

Fitzy wrote:

Have been impressed so far. The clincher for me is that he's an Australian and therefore not taking up an import spot. Could replace any one of Smith, Totori or Sanchez (on current form) and therefore has the added bonus of freeing up an import spot for us. Sign him up.


I don't know if I would go as far as 'impressed' I would probably go with satisfied, but I completely agree with the rest of this.
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about 13 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

Fitzy wrote:

Have been impressed so far. The clincher for me is that he's an Australian and therefore not taking up an import spot. Could replace any one of Smith, Totori or Sanchez (on current form) and therefore has the added bonus of freeing up an import spot for us. Sign him up.


I don't know if I would go as far as 'impressed' I would probably go with satisfied, but I completely agree with the rest of this.

Context is everything. Pav could have slotted a tap-in past a blind paraplegic goalkeeper and I'd have been impressed.

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about 13 years ago

Should only be a squad player, at most, next season. Not a panacea to our midfield.

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