For something to do how do we judge this quality.
How legendary are Taylor, Ball and Hooper so far? How far behind Ifill are they?
Home finals run would definitely have helped.
Who would make a top 5 legends of the Nix? Can one goal get you a place?
Think this will last us 4 weeks?
Longevity certainly matters (so Ifill over Ball, Davila, Burns) but performances are more important (so, for example, Roly over Bertos, or Cacace over Doyle).
None of the guys you mentioned are close to Ifill right now - if Taylor stays another two-ish seasons, which he will, and we achieve some decent success I'd see him in the top 5 ahead of guys like Daniel, Brown, Greenacre, Siggy
Top three for me right now (in no particular order) is Krishna, Durante, Ifill, and I suspect that's the same for most guys here. Past that it's murky
Longevity certainly matters (so Ifill over Ball, Davila, Burns) but performances are more important (so, for example, Roly over Bertos, or Cacace over Doyle).
None of the guys you mentioned are close to Ifill right now - if Taylor stays another two-ish seasons, which he will, and we achieve some decent success I'd see him in the top 5 ahead of guys like Daniel, Brown, Greenacre, Siggy
Top three for me right now (in no particular order) is Krishna, Durante, Ifill, and I suspect that's the same for most guys here. Past that it's murky
Roly over Bertos? Leaving us for WSW and then having your career fizzle wouldn't seem to me to be legend making... attitude has gotta play a part too.
I'd have Manny, Siggy and Vinnie in there too, for their die for the cause attitude
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Manny was a legend!
Some interesting match ups
Greenacre, Ifil, Smeltz or Krishna for our top striker. Greeny gets points for staying on and coaching.
In the mids, who was the best out of Brown, Davilla, Lia, Daniel, Singh
And for the backs, Durante, Boxall, Taylor, Siggy or Manny.
For me, its Greeny, his work rate hasn't been matched until maybe now through ball.
Davilla for the mids, never had a player like him Singh would of potentially grown into that, but left for bigger things understandably.
Manny for the backs, could play either side, never gave anything less than everything.
Mossy has to be in the mix as well.
Ifill, Siggie, Manny, Dura top tier legends. Brown, Smeltz, Krishna & Mossy also in the mix. And Greenie, Vinnie & Daniel thereabouts.
A top-10 legends ladder (in order) would be a good thread
I know, I know, its serious!
Then there's iconic things Ifill's limp and goal in the Newcastle final, headbandages for Browny, Manny or Siggie
Davila has had a few iconic moments already.
No one mentions Reddy or Vukovic- cos they moved on? It's hard to say Marco, Singh or Kosta are club legends I'd argue
What about Burns that one bright season?
Mossy has to be in the mix as well.
Ifill, Siggie, Manny, Dura top tier legends. Brown, Smeltz, Krishna & Mossy also in the mix. And Greenie, Vinnie & Daniel thereabouts.
A top-10 legends ladder (in order) would be a good thread
What about Pa...
Yeh definitely Mossy.
there was a thread for this a few years ago but cannot be bothered hunting for it.people voted and a list was compiled pretty hard for players that have only been here for 1 or 2 seasons to suddenly be called legends.a legend is built over time, they are good players maybe great players but need to be around a bit longer to become legends.
there was a thread for this a few years ago but cannot be bothered hunting for it.people voted and a list was compiled pretty hard for players that have only been here for 1 or 2 seasons to suddenly be called legends.a legend is built over time, they are good players maybe great players but need to be around a bit longer to become legends.
We've had a legendary season though? Our most successful. My feeling is that legends are about how they win over the fans...the way they played and got the croud going and the impression that they left.
Taylor in his second year...
If Hooper had helped us win or go deep in the finals this year, but had only the partial season cameo I'd say he could still be a legend. Different to our best players or the best clubmen IMO
Disapointed seems none of you understand the importance of a head band. Also think there is a difference between a Phoenix legend and being classed as one of the Phoenixs best players. In my opinion you dont have to be one of the best players to be called a Phoenix legend.
TBF Cleberson is a Phoenix legend
Plodder is a Phoenix legend.
Terry is a Phoenix legend
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Legends XI for me. Greenie gets the nod over Smeltz for his length of service, on the field attitude and contributions he's made since retiring. I'd give Cacace the nod over Lochhead for his outstanding play, being a Wellington born, Phoenix made player and being I believe the youngest player to 50 caps. Riera unlucky to miss out on the starting XI but Vinnie's longevity and status as a foundation player pips it for me. Bertos and Fenton get in there on the bench for their longevity and Singh gets a spot for being the best ever Phoenix made player (so far). Moss makes the starting XI over Paston for the number of games he played and for being one of the best keepers in the league for a long time. I'd expect to see Rufer and Taylor on there soon and wouldn't be surprised to see Dávila, Ball, Devlin, Marinovic and Payne make a case for a spot depending on how long they stay.
perhaps another way of thinking is the players you turn up to see- no disrepect to Dura, but if you think about it that way he was never in that category. Daniel? Definitely. And at the moment there's a lot of players in the team you'd turn up to see. Kinda skews it to attacking players I guess. Again lots of different ways of thinking about legend status.
Last ditch block tackles or saves, winners or equalisers help, never giving up
Brockie an interesting case. Good in a poor team, poor in an okay team- what about him? Some stunning strikes
Brockie an interesting case. Good in a poor team, poor in an okay team- what about him? Some stunning strikes
Don't think he makes it over Krishna, Greenie, Smeltz or Ifill but definitely not a bad shout.
1. Tim Payne
2. Oli Sail
daylight
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
lack of love for Riera here, the guys a real midfield maestro
lack of love for Riera here, the guys a real midfield maestro
He's our best ever DM in my opinion, Devlin and Steinmann showing signs they could be even better in time. I'd have Lia as more of a legend than him but only just, Riera undoubtedly a better player though.
Vuducovic in goal. The only goalkeeper to score a goal for us. And that shot that hit the crossbar is certainly legendary.
That shot is the reason we still shout "shoooot" when our keeper has the ball and we're playing with the wind.
The club are asking for 'Nix Team Of All Time!!' nominations - https://www.facebook.com/wellingtonphoenixfc/photos/a.168313984238/10158489032699239/?type=3&theater
I've gone with:
Marinovic;
Muscat, Sigmund, Durante, Cacace;
Dávila, Riera, Bonevacia;
Ifill, Krishna, Burns.
Subs: Moss, Taylor, Lia, Singh, Daniel, Smeltz
Warner
Mulligan Adams Dodd Hearfield
Christie Lindsay Ferrante
Cornejo
Macallister Pavlovic
Vukovic
Lia Taylor Durante (c) Cacace
Riera Bonevacia
Burns Ifill
Krishna Smeltz
Vukovic
Lia Taylor Durante (c) Cacace
Riera Bonevacia
Burns Ifill
Krishna Smeltz
Legends, not best 11 isn't it?
Not so sure we have enough players who could be classed as Phoenix Legends. Don't think all those who arguably make the best of team can be classed as Phoenix Legends . Also should a Phoenix legend be only players, would like to think Rusty would be considered a Phoenix Legend.
I know he is not a RB but he's a good player and he's in my 11, think he was a better footballer than Muscat/Fenton
I know he is not a RB but he's a good player and he's in my 11, think he was a better footballer than Muscat/Fenton
And he score "That Goal" from 30 yards out.
Piney posted his Power Rankings of Phoenix Imports
Thanks to @Ryans_Rovers for the idea of power-ranking the imports who have played for @WgtnPhoenixFC.
— Jason Pine (@pineyzb) April 3, 2020
Some really tight calls here and just my opinion. Would love to hear yours.
40 Ricardo Clarke
39 Jiang Chen
38 Oscar Cornejo
37 George Paladini
36 Cleberson
35 Jeffrey Sarpong
— Jason Pine (@pineyzb) April 3, 2020
34 Benjamin Totori
33 Leilei Gao
32 Diego Walsh
31 Fred
30 Shaun Timmins
29 Tony Warner
28 Alex Smith
27 Marco Rossi
26 Cillian Sheridan
25 Felipe
24 Matija Ljujic
23 Eugene Dadi
22 Goran Paracki
21 Michal Kopczynski
20 Gui Finkler
19 Andrija Kaludjerovic
— Jason Pine (@pineyzb) April 3, 2020
18 Kenny Cunningham
17 Carlos Hernandez
16 Gary Hooper
15 Dani Sanchez
14 Mandi
13 Alex Rodriguez
12 Matti Steinmann
11 Stein Huysegems
10 Daniel Cortes
— Jason Pine (@pineyzb) April 3, 2020
9 David Ball
8 Filip Kurto
7 Chris Greenacre
6 Albert Riera
5 Roly Bonevacia
4 Ulises Davila
3 Steven Taylor
1= Roy Krishna
1= Paul Ifill
If Fred's father had not passed away, he would have stayed longer. He was good to watch. And Piney forgot Ahmed Elrich - The Pie Man.
If Fred's father had not passed away, he would have stayed longer. He was good to watch. And Piney forgot Ahmed Elrich - The Pie Man.
He was Australian - not an import
He may not have stayed for very long but I probably would have put Matija Ljujic a bit higher up in the rankings.
Ljujic and Steinman need to be higher, I'd have Roly swapped with Steinman in that list. Roly had heaps of promise but never really showed how good he was in the league. Even when he left he kinda failed to impress.
Queenslander 3x a year.
