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Marco Rojas - The retirement of the Kiwi Messi

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over 11 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

Not a winger, nor entirely reliant on speed or agility to make it as a player.



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over 11 years ago

Also, he is the exception, not the norm.

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over 11 years ago

He should come back to A league

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over 11 years ago

I think he is probably happier at Crystal Palace.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

Very much the exception. For every one Jedinak you could name plenty that go and late and do not make it.

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

martinb wrote:

valeo wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

Not a winger, nor entirely reliant on speed or agility to make it as a player.

I'm pretty sure you don't lose your speed and agility by fucking 22. Tommy Oar seems to be going alright.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

martinb wrote:

valeo wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

Not a winger, nor entirely reliant on speed or agility to make it as a player.

I'm pretty sure you don't lose your speed and agility by fucking 22. Tommy Oar seems to be going alright.

Jedinak moving to Palace at 28 was what I meant...you wouldn't want to be starting your European career as a winger in your 30s...



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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

valeo wrote:

martinb wrote:

valeo wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Reality imo is that 22 is in reality too old, other than in some exceptional circumstances.

They need to be at these big clubs as 12 and 13 year olds

Erm, heard of a guy called Mile Jedinak? Reasonably good player in the A-League though not amazing - now currently captaining an EPL club and consistently one of their best players and joined them at 28.

Not a winger, nor entirely reliant on speed or agility to make it as a player.

I'm pretty sure you don't lose your speed and agility by fucking 22. Tommy Oar seems to be going alright.

Jedinak moving to Palace at 28 was what I meant...you wouldn't want to be starting your European career as a winger in your 30s...

Doug Howlett.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 11 years ago

I thought rojas had a solid game tonight for not having any first team action in a while.  His footwork was very impressive but I see what his coach means with holding the ball a bit to long at times.

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over 11 years ago

I was pleasantly surprised to see Marco hasn't lost his pace or incredible technique. I think he was forced out wide too often as we didn't really own the midfield. It's hard to play pass and move football when you really only have one outlet moving forward so it's understandable that he was having to beat players to make space rather than letting ball movement do the work 

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over 11 years ago

Yeah, I thought he had decent game. The odd decision he got wrong. But on the whole good effort.

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over 11 years ago

Was he injured last night or was that just a tactical switch from Hudson?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 11 years ago

Was he injured last night or was that just a tactical switch from Hudson?

assuming injured. He took a heavy knock to the knee.

If it was tactical, it has to be one of the worst switches I have ever seen. Changed a game where we had the upper foot, to one we got dominated in

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over 11 years ago

yeah taking him and Kosta off..epic fail.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 11 years ago

Rojas got a hit on the knee apparently.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

wasting his time, really really honestly needs to get the f*ck out of there right now. Would be better off playing league 2 in the UK than being hated by a manager in the 2. Liga.

I wonder how much of an interest Stuttgart are retaining in watching him, or he is out of sight out of mind

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over 11 years ago

He's been bloody fragile the last year and a half. Needs to move to the Eredivisie

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over 11 years ago
Armin Veh, coach of VFB Stuttgart, resigned. They are last place on the ladder and he said they new needs a new coach. Bad times for the club, no consistency in management and coaching.
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over 11 years ago
G.F. playing right now.....Marco not even on the bench.
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over 11 years ago

Come back to the A-League. Re-assess. Try and push for a place in a league like the Eredivisie. He needs game time.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

time to PM him on facebook and offer him free board in the hutt for three months while he finds a job and buys a car

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over 11 years ago

question is: what would it actually take to bring him back to the A-league, what are the clauses of his Stuttgart and subsequent year loan deal to Bavaria??

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over 11 years ago

number8 wrote:
Armin Veh, coach of VFB Stuttgart, resigned. They are last place on the ladder and he said they new needs a new coach. Bad times for the club, no consistency in management and coaching.

I've read they have major financial problems which is at the root of their problems and can't afford to buy any decent players.

They spent too much a few years ago and the club directors told the Director of Football, Bobic before last season that he had two seasons to reduce the wage bill by 50%.

Rojas was the sort of cheap or free player they could acquire - sending him out on loan currently will also help reduce the wage bill.

There's no easy way out for Stuttgart as they have no money to buy players in the January window and will probably have to sell the handful of decent ones they have. 

Relegation seems certain - maybe after they lose any remaining decent players, Marco will get a chance with them next season in the 2.Bundesliga.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 11 years ago

Fuerth played 0:0 against Heidenheim. Marco not even on the bench.

It's very dark and friggin cold over there, the next few month will be hard time for him.

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over 11 years ago

played a full game for the reserves on Sunday - whoppee yay nah stink

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over 11 years ago

Poor bastard,seems like a bit of a disaster for him now


    COYN     


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over 11 years ago
Get out and go back to a league


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over 11 years ago

though apparently his german language is getting better and his girlfriend is with him....as life goes at 23 I guess that is actually pretty awesome - just not messi awesome

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over 11 years ago

Hardly any teams have international marquee spots open so could struggle to fit Rojas in. I think going elsewhere in Europe is his best bet. Either way there wouldn't be many players who fail in 2 Bundesliga who become top players, would there?

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over 11 years ago

Guess stint for the nix.

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over 11 years ago

No.Gotta be overseas,plenty of teams would have a spot for him.Just needs to play


    COYN     


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over 11 years ago
If he's event a year and a half in Germany learning the language, a gig in Switzerland or Austria might not be a bad option

Auckland will rise once more

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over 11 years ago

anyone have any intel on which teams might be ready to save Marco in January?

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over 11 years ago

get ryan Thomas to have a word with Zwolle management imo

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over 11 years ago

Sounds like Hudson has been pretty hands on in getting something happening 

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over 11 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/64115243/phoenix-roll-out-welcome-mat-for-possible-return-of-marco-rojas

"There's rumours that he's coming back to the A-League so there's always options," Rojas Sr said.

"Ernie [Phoenix coach Ernie Merrick] signed him for Melbourne Victory so he knows what Marco can do. I've talked to the Phoenix a lot and we don't close any doors.

And here I thought it was Ange Postecogleu that signed him all this time

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over 11 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/64115243/phoenix-roll-out-welcome-mat-for-possible-return-of-marco-rojas

"There's rumours that he's coming back to the A-League so there's always options," Rojas Sr said.

"Ernie [Phoenix coach Ernie Merrick] signed him for Melbourne Victory so he knows what Marco can do. I've talked to the Phoenix a lot and we don't close any doors.

And here I thought it was Ange Postecogleu that signed him all this time

I think he got signed on the basis that Ange was going to come to Melbourne, and then they couldn't get him IIRC. So yeh, it was Merrick that actually signed him...



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