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McFlynns a dirty cheat

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
McFlynns a dirty cheat
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This has probably already been covered, but what actually is the chance of McFlynn facing disciplinary action for what he did in the game the other night?

The only reason I can see why he didn't get red carded is that it was still early in the game and perhaps the ref didn't get a full view of just how blatant it was.

I actually found it f'n disgusting to be honest and you would think that as the captain of a team perhaps he would hold himself high in the moral sense to set a good example to the rest of his team? And he actually tried to claim it as well!! Even bloody worse!

Hopefully something gets done about it, I think a hefty suspension is in order, its completely against the good spirit of the game and being the captain I think he deserves to be punished and made an example of so no dickhead trys this again

rant over.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I assume you mean the handball incident? Yellow card was correctly given by the referee, no further action will (nor should) be taken.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it looks like it could be, but i don't think it ,deliberate 
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pah, deliberate handball into the goal, ran off celebrating, then pretended he didn't do it. Should be red. If I get a yellow card every match for that, 1 out of 5 times the ref probably wouldn't see.

He won't get any suspension though, as due to FFA's stupid (made by Australians) laws, they can't do anything if a yellow was given. But if the ref didn't give the yellow, or gave a red instead. They can do something.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It wasn't a red card offence and was dealt with correctly by the referee. End of.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree it was a nasty bit of cheating but the ref got it right.

Using your hand to try and score a goal is a yellow not a red. Only denying the opposition a goal scoring opportunity by using your hand is a straight red (although you would think they are much the same thing).

Same old Aussies...

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Michael wrote:
pah, deliberate handball into the goal, ran off celebrating, then pretended he didn't do it. Should be red. If I get a yellow card every match for that, 1 out of 5 times the ref probably wouldn't see.

He won't get any suspension though, as due to FFA's stupid (made by Australians) laws, they can't do anything if a yellow was given. But if the ref didn't give the yellow, or gave a red instead. They can do something.


The only time cards can be over turned is in a case of mistaken identity. The FFA deals with stuff not seen my the referee i.e. Hearfield slamming Brosque with his elbow in the head off the ball.....
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fairly accurate from Piney

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/92599,blog-pointing-the-finger-of-blame.aspx

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It should be a red card offense. Blantant cheating. At the other end of the field it would be a red.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hellobeaver wrote:
It should be a red card offense. Blantant cheating. At the other end of the field it would be a red.


Nah, it would've been an own goal , wouldn't it

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It was an absolutely despicable bit of cheating, and to claim a goal afterwards makes it even worse. A red would be unfair but there should be enough discretion available to decision makers to review the incident after the game and impose some form of penalty

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
so there is no issue with them going after Hearfield for the blatant forearm on Brosques head then yeah?

Sorry just exposing the blatant dopuble standard...

I'm trying to think whats worse, trying to score a goal with your hand or taking a cheap shot at someones head....
Agent 472009-01-12 22:33:57
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ibtm
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well put it like this. IF Smeltz was stupid enough to try and score with his hand and Shannon Cole was stupid enough to pop Lockhead, we'd be talking about a witch hunt for Shannon Cole and what a dirty despicable cheat he is.

Agent 472009-01-12 22:41:48
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If Leo Bertos slam dunks the winner against Melbourne which gets us into the play-offs and gets away with it, I trust there will be a huge queue of people on here screaming about what a dirty, cheating bastard he is.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
okay so if Mcflynn is a dirty cheat, then what aboutt he elbow on Brosque from Hearfield..
 
Works both ways thank youu

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
why are you defending sydney this aint the coves forum 
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Because we have some double standards going on here.
If hearfield got sent off for taking out brosque it probably would have gone up for investigation.
Stop being baised. it was dirty play. a hand ball to me is nothing. Its more cheeky than dirty
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Because we have some double standards going on here.
If hearfield got sent off for taking out brosque it probably would have gone up for investigation.
Stop being baised. it was dirty play. a hand ball to me is nothing compared to what hearfield did. Its more cheeky than dirty
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
handball into goal and claiming a goal - not really dirty, sneaky yes, cheating yes.....he had another handball during the game, can't remember the circumstances though. so he's a cheat he got caught, and booked.....Troy on the other hand go away with a naughty elbow which i suspect started the bad blood between the two which then led to the bad tackle and subsequent headbutt....

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
monkeyboy wrote:
This has probably already been covered, but what actually is the chance of McFlynn facing disciplinary action for what he did in the game the other night?

The only reason I can see why he didn't get red carded is that it was still early in the game and perhaps the ref didn't get a full view of just how blatant it was.

I actually found it f'n disgusting to be honest and you would think that as the captain of a team perhaps he would hold himself high in the moral sense to set a good example to the rest of his team? And he actually tried to claim it as well!! Even bloody worse!

Hopefully something gets done about it, I think a hefty suspension is in order, its completely against the good spirit of the game and being the captain I think he deserves to be punished and made an example of so no dickhead trys this again

rant over.
 
I have never heard so much sheite like it. TBH the only thing that should be reviewed is the elbow from hearfield and the headbutt incident. Both pretty pathetic really. If we worry about Handballs then we may as well go and have everything up for review

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't think anyone ever defended Troy's elbow, TBH if he's dumb enough to do that then he deserves what he gets as well. Still think it should be a red card offense, worse than stopping a ball going into the goal I reckon
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's the same type of thing as diving, it's blatant cheating and spoils the game and should be punished harshly, but isn't.
It's far worse than players smacking each other around off the ball.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A question to the refs here. If McFlynn had got away with it, could it be reviewed by the "judiciary" and what would the outcome be?

I think a yellow on the field is enough, and no-one is defending Troy's elbow, there arent double standards, the man is just being called a cheat and he was.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't think there's any doubt he's a cheat. Problem is he's not OUR cheat, he's one of theirs.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I can't find the release but The FFA last year said that they are only going to review incidents that occur not relating to the game. i.e. spitting, punching, kicking, not general play by play incidents like tackles, handballs, throw - ins. Which wouuld mean had he got away with it, most likely the goal and result would have stood.

If you are going to start reviews of goals, well you'd start with offsides first and then you'd open up a whole pandoras box

Agent 472009-01-13 09:20:05
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Any reason the punishment for scoring a goal with your hand and stopping a goal with your hand shouldn't be the same? 
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sanday wrote:
Any reason the punishment for scoring a goal with your hand and stopping a goal with your hand shouldn't be the same?�

Thats just the way it is. Lots of people think it's stupid and should be changed, so the strikers face the same penalties as the defenders.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
This has probably already been covered, but what actually is the chance of McFlynn facing disciplinary action for what he did in the game the other night?

The only reason I can see why he didn't get red carded is that it was still early in the game and perhaps the ref didn't get a full view of just how blatant it was.

I actually found it f'n disgusting to be honest and you would think that as the captain of a team perhaps he would hold himself high in the moral sense to set a good example to the rest of his team? And he actually tried to claim it as well!! Even bloody worse!

Hopefully something gets done about it, I think a hefty suspension is in order, its completely against the good spirit of the game and being the captain I think he deserves to be punished and made an example of so no dickhead trys this again

rant over.
 
I have never heard so much sheite like it. TBH the only thing that should be reviewed is the elbow from hearfield and the headbutt incident. Both pretty pathetic really. If we worry about Handballs then we may as well go and have everything up for review


Wait so you think that we shouldn't discourage people not to cheat? I wouldn't have been so angry if it was a normal handball somewhere on the field, but the fact that and he did and tried to claim it and that he is their captain makes me angry.

I'm sure Englands 1986 World Cup team feel the same.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Monkey boy you have missed the point. No people shouldn't cheat nor try to cheat, but a hefty period on the sideline for a handball is pathetic. Ref did the right thing in showing the yellowcard
 
And really I don't care about how the 1986  Wc England team feels.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It wasn't "just" a handball though, it was cheating at its lowest form and as I said he needs to be an example of. Not saying ban him for the rest of the season, perhaps 1 or 2 weeks will make him and other people think twice before they try stupid sh*t like that
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon the most despicable thing was that he ran off and looked shocked when the goal wasn't given. The right action was taken by the ref though.

a.haak

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