Moss or Paston?

Moss or Paston?

I'm sure this will be controversial as Moss got some votes for man of the match v CCM.

I want to give Paston a go. Moss makes some great saves but he also has several glaring deficiencies and I don't think he organises the defence all that well.
valeo2007-10-23 18:18:25

Ricky certainly didn't rule Paston out in his pre CCM press comments, so time will tell i guess

I agree, Its time to change the keeper. I tho0ught the word was that Moss was only going to be in the net until Paston was fit, and after a somewhat nightmarish display on Sunday, its time for a change. I hate to chage the keeper, as normally there is a definate No 1 and No 2, but from earlier reports Paston is the first choice, and it would be good to see him.

If Moss spent less time punching the ball and more time catching it, it would help. Each of his punched efforts last Sunday went to CCM players.

Lonegunmen2007-10-23 20:44:58

I thought the Mariners' keeper was excellent - very commanding in the air. Bastard.

haven't seen Paston play in the A-League. I've seen him with the All Whites, but then again, Fiji didn't do very much to put him into action.

And caught every ball except 1 punched effort. He commanded his whole area very well indeed.

The only way we are actually going to find out who is playing better is to give Paston a shot. I've been a big supporter of not making change for the sake of it rather than on form only and to be fair to Moss, he is doing an ok job. Could Paston have done better in the same situations? Pass but its kind of a pointless debate about who is better until Paston actually gets a run on the pitch...

All keepers are going to make great saves and blocks and Moss certainly has made his share.  However on Sunday Moss was shaky, we were lucky to get away with some of his punched clearances.

We are not in the business of giving players a shot.  What next - drop Smeltz for a game because Draper deserves his chance up front?

Moss played well on sunday, give Paston a shot if you like it won't really change anything though.

I never said give Paston a shot. I said that change should only be made for reasons of form and that arguing who is better is pointless till Paston gets a run on the pitch.

The Sydney fans thought Moss was excellent on Sunday, just to add a view from an impartial group.

Sydney fans are idiots.

Ah, Frankie, ever the politician.

You've completely lost track of which side you are on in this argument, haven't you ?

I like Mossy and he does seem to make some great and crucial saves, however after so many games without a clean sheet I'm wondering what is going wrong... it can't all be laid on the keeper of course and Moss is playing well, but at the same time you can't lay all the blame on the defenders.  Since we've not seen Paston play in the A-League its a hard thing to judge, though the sheer fact that he's said to be NZ's #1 keeper should at the very least get him a chance.

Changing keepers is a big thing though, especially when you're trying to solidify your defense, so it may hurt us as much as it helps - I just wonder whether the communication is all it should be back there because we're constantly conceding goals.  I'll say it again - I'd rather see the next match as a 0-0 draw than a 6-2 win... simply getting that first clean sheet is going to be a big step for the defense because its a mentality thing as much as anything.

FYI - I read on the BBC site that one of the teams over in England recently got their first clean sheet in 20 matches, our run better not last that long :)

Based on what I saw in the Fiji game, it seems Paston is better at marshalling the defence, which is something we certainly need!
Also he seems more confident under the high ball.
Not sure whether he can make those great dives that Moss does though ...

Paston played in the preseason against Newcastle. As they were playing boring football and I don't recall many shots, he had basically nothing to do. Except let some penalties in.

Would like to see Paston at least have a go.. certainly think he is better in the air and he would organise our defence.

Do I really need to comment

Paston.

right now i dont see any reason for paston to start ahead of moss. Moss is doing fine

I agree, and if we need cover, there is a fantastic South American 'keeper called Julio Cuello who is worth signing

Moss kept us in the game again on Sunday. End of.

Yeah

no, Moss stayed on his line and said good luck to the defenders. poor keeping.

I'm not specially talking about those two incidents, I'm talking about in general, when he needed to command his goal area

Again, he kept us in the game, saved a few one on ones. Don't know what more you can ask.

[QUOTE=Nickel]

FYI - I read on the BBC site that one of the teams over in England recently got their first clean sheet in 20 matches, our run better not last that long :)
[/QUOTE

I'd pick a 1-0 over a 2-1. But not a 6-2 over 0-0. 6 goals. Who needs defense if you can knock in 6?

i think moss has certainly had his "oh f**k" moments, but its not only his responsibilty to run the defence - its a two way street. After playing a season in goal with a defensive unit that was changing and never listened I can vouch for the frustration that must be felt. admittedly Moss needs to work on his punching/catching decisions, and for sure coming off the line is important, overall I think he's done well - but has been sent up the creeek without a paddle by his defence a couple of time. I've not seen patson play but caught glimpses of him in the All Whites and thought he looked sharp, don't think rushing him in to replace Moss would be wise now though - maybe if and injury took moss out??????

Paston.  Three words: Distribution, communication, and dominance.

Tegal2007-10-24 15:13:35