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MULLIGAN SIGNED! CONFIRMED

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He should be the number 1 free kick taker
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wonder when he gets into the country? might have to head along to training to see how they involve him from the start. If Lias injury is serious will they use hearfield/sigmund as right backs until Mulligan is up to required fitness standard or do you rush him in to get some combinations developing with the boys?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Every time i've seen this guy play he's been average. Good free kicks, not great defending, a bit lazy. I haven't exactly seen  him play over a course of a whole season so i'll reserve judgement.

Still, it's nice to have more depth.


a.haak

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Does he talk with a Fazackerly accent? Eh? Eh?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
wonder when he gets into the country?
 
He arrives next week
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've got a mate from barnsley who's lapping this up - we now have 3 ex Barnsley F.C players: Bertos, Christie and Mulligan. They actualy may have all played there simultaniously at one point? I'm not too sure.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh no!! What have we done!!!
 
I hope he proves me wrong but I was not impressed with his proformances week in week out at Port Vale.  He will need to pick himself up a bit also as he has just gone through a relegation period last season.
 
Please prove me wrong Dave
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
haven't read the whole thread , just got in  - but despite the reservations of a few on this page , I'm pleased - it'll be good to have someone who appears to have turned out at right back at a decent level
 
he and ricki obviously know each other's work so that takes away a significant risk that comes with signing an 'unknown' player
 
 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
My 2c

1/.  Last year our set pieces were interesting.  Corners were effective, and we scored plenty from them (anyone counted?).  But the free kicks were a mess.  Little imagination or variation, they either went into the wall or over the posts, or got lobbed to the keeper.  A decent dfk taker would be a real bonus.

2/.  We're going to end up with some decent players not starting regularly.  Lets say the first XI is yesterday's with Mulligan for Lia.  That leaves Kwasnik, Hearfield, Lia, Sigmund, Brown, Johnson, Coveny, Costa & Christie among the others.  Seems a lot of talent on the sidelines, and with quite a short season and without AW games intervening some of them won't play a lot.  Now a Coveny or a Costa might be OK with this, but with the league expanding I can see some departures.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We earned a lot of free kicks last year and I can't remember a single one on target, both Daniel and Felipe were pretty average.
 
Vanuatu game he played in midfield and I thought it was a solid effort but him and Leo stared tryign to take the proverbial a little to early on.  He did look a little tubby that day, pity he hasn't been here for the whole of the pre-season to allow Mr Ed to put him through his paces.
 
Compared to what else there is in the league he's got to be aone of the better right backs we could have got, plus he's a kiwi international which is great for the AWs.

Normo's coming home

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I was very unimpressed with him against Vanuatu (except his free kick) but it was only one game, so it's unfair to judge him on that. What gives me confidence is that he's got a ton of experience and Ricki knows his game well, and will be able to get the best out of him.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Solid signing, remember guys its a long season and we will need all our players through it..

Was just thinking George, Felipe, Ross must have been a lot $$, considering who we have replaced them with.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
we did ditch about 10 players - haha remember that comment ricki made a while back about how we shouldnt expect much in the off season. lol Man_utd_fan2008-07-21 21:04:17
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can tell you for a fact that George was on a LOT (6 figures +)

Normo's coming home

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
how and why????!!!!!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

we are loaded up with Defensive players but he will be a good signing I think.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
because he was the man in Fifa07? same as Mr Potatoe Top Pie legs.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
I can tell you for a fact that George was on a LOT (6 figures +)
 
 wow! what would a typical A-League player get?
 
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Tyler wrote:
james dean wrote:
I can tell you for a fact that George was on a LOT (6 figures +)

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�wow! what would a typical A-League player get?

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Salary cap is a touch over 2 million (I think?), divide that by 21 players or so, thats a bit under 100,000 each. However some players will obviously be paid well over this- meaning that a number of players earn well under this. I dunno- median wage would be 65-75 maybe? bigtobz2008-07-21 21:21:31
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
There are a lot of things that come under the cap that are non-monetary, house, cars etc all have to be included.  All up George was on a very good package in comparison to many others in the side.  Realistically to get him, Ross and Clebo to NZ would have been expensive

Normo's coming home

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
id say to pop down here he would have to be on one of the bigger pay cheque's for our team. hockeycam2008-07-21 21:38:00
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"DAVID MULLIGAN
Date of birth: March 24, 1982 in Fazakerley, England (26 years)"

Just in case we can't do maths?
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james dean wrote:
We earned a lot of free kicks last year and I can't remember a single one on target, both Daniel and Felipe were pretty average.
 
 
i think i remember a quality free kick by daniel that almost went in against sydney in the last game of the season. But hopefully Mulligan can bang a couple.
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hockeycam wrote:
id say to pop down here he would have to be on one of the bigger pay cheque's for our team.


Totally disagree. He's been out of contract for a few months, phoenix apparently in talks with him at the start of the season and his wage demands were too high. He obviously looked around and saw that there wasn't much going so decided to come back to NZ
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james dean wrote:
I can tell you for a fact that George was on a LOT (6 figures +)


money well spent. It has provided us a joke for years to come
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Must admit with this guy and your other buys you have maybe the best back four in the league.

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Xcellent wrote:
james dean wrote:
I can tell you for a fact that George was on a LOT (6 figures +)


money well spent. It has provided us a joke for years to come
 
A very expensive one at that...

Normo's coming home

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Midfielder wrote:
Must admit with this guy and your other buys you have maybe the best back four in the league.


makes a change from easily the worst!
I like tautologies because I like them.
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http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2005/12/Player_of_the_round_mulligan.htm

2 videos of his free kicks that one him player of the round, 2 quality ones in the game
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I suppose this should be a poll, but I was wondering what urban definition of a Mulligan is the people's favourite.
 
 
I kinda like 4 but a 5 could be of use one day.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hope number 6 doesn't need to be used
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm not sure that the Mulligan signing was absolutely necessary.  It's possible that the RB position is a real vulnerability and Mulligan may prove to be the best option there - time will tell.  However, at this time, my overall impression is that we're adding depth where depth wasn't really needed.
 
I know that views on this have been aired in the past, but where we have absolutely no depth is in the out-and-out striker position.
 
I still think it's a huge gamble and an unfair burden on Shane Smeltz to start the A-League with a single proven striker in the squad (the best other options this season are likely to be bit players only - Coveny is well past his best and Costa is inexperienced).  Moreover, I don't think the midfielders we've signed up will compensate for the lack of depth up front.  This to me was evidenced in Sunday's game, despite it being the first competitive game, the difficult weather conditions, and the fact we won.
 
Tony P has stated the club wants depth in all positions, which is the right aim.  Waiting several games into the A-League to find out that Smeltz alone is inadequate is too late to recover the season, given the low number of games.  Therefore, the highest priority must be to secure a quality striker before the season kicks off as well as, if possible, a marquee player.  Every game (and win) in the league is precious - let's not wait until its too late.  If we are truly aiming for a top four position, we need to be well resourced in all departments from the start.  It's going to be a tough competition as CCM proved on Sunday, and they weren't all that impressive.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
axmfc wrote:
I'm not sure that the Mulligan signing was absolutely necessary.  It's possible that the RB position is a real vulnerability and Mulligan may prove to be the best option there - time will tell.  However, at this time, my overall impression is that we're adding depth where depth wasn't really needed.
 
I know that views on this have been aired in the past, but where we have absolutely no depth is in the out-and-out striker position.
 
I still think it's a huge gamble and an unfair burden on Shane Smeltz to start the A-League with a single proven striker in the squad (the best other options this season are likely to be bit players only - Coveny is well past his best and Costa is inexperienced).  Moreover, I don't think the midfielders we've signed up will compensate for the lack of depth up front.  This to me was evidenced in Sunday's game, despite it being the first competitive game, the difficult weather conditions, and the fact we won.
 
Tony P has stated the club wants depth in all positions, which is the right aim.  Waiting several games into the A-League to find out that Smeltz alone is inadequate is too late to recover the season, given the low number of games.  Therefore, the highest priority must be to secure a quality striker before the season kicks off as well as, if possible, a marquee player.  Every game (and win) in the league is precious - let's not wait until its too late.  If we are truly aiming for a top four position, we need to be well resourced in all departments from the start.  It's going to be a tough competition as CCM proved on Sunday, and they weren't all that impressive.
 
I think you'll find a lot of our goals will come from our attacking midfielders, Daniel, Gao, and Bertos. I wouldn't be too concerned just yet, if Smeltz gets injured we may have some worries.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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axmfc wrote:
I'm not sure that the Mulligan signing was absolutely necessary.  It's possible that the RB position is a real vulnerability and Mulligan may prove to be the best option there - time will tell.  However, at this time, my overall impression is that we're adding depth where depth wasn't really needed.


Gonna have to totally disagree. The only RB's are two converted midfielders (Lia and Plodder) and centrebacks playing out of position (ie Sigmund, Dodd). Not to mention that since he can play LB as well, it gives us an option there should Lochhead be unavailable, without having to sacrifice Daniel - our only other LB but an integral part of our attack.

We might not need depth, but we did need an RB. What this moves means is not having to rely on depth for every game now that we have an experienced player in that position.

As for it only being a possibility that our RB was a weak spot - I think it's far more possible than not. No disrespect for Lia, but I wouldn't call him a first option RB just yet. He's still a converted MF, and hence, still a gamble.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Right back was THE problem area for the Nix last year. What are the other options, Lia (untried and non-specialist), Christie (tried out of position last year without much success) or Sigmund (untried at the position or at this level - although he played briefly for the Kingz without impact).

Mulligan is not only a genuine right back, he is also comfortable on the other side and can play in midfield - and he scores goals as well.
 
Where's the downside.
 
As for all the crap about the Vanuatu game - it's one game, in a sauna on a mudheap. Give the guy a break. He's a quality player and a damn good signing. 
Masty2008-07-22 10:39:49
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benji-t wrote:
I've got a mate from barnsley who's lapping this up - we now have 3 ex Barnsley F.C players: Bertos, Christie and Mulligan. They actualy may have all played there simultaniously at one point? I'm not too sure.
 
Mulligan was at Barnsley 01.08.00 to 08.10.03. Played in 65 games and 5 cup games.
Bertos was at Barnsley 02.03.01 to 23.07.03. Played in 12 games and 1 cup game.
Christie was at Barnsley 15.01.02 to 01.07.04. Played in 1 league game and 1 cup game.
 
So yeah, all three were at the club from 15.01.02 to 23.07.03. I don't think all three got onto the pitch at the same time. Mulligan played in the cup game that Christie came on as sub for - I'm not sure about the league appearance, also as a sub, but I'm pretty certain it was after Bertos left.
 
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Daikiwi wrote:
 
As for all the crap about the Vanuatu game - it's one game, in a sauna on a mudheap. Give the guy a break. He's a quality player and a damn good signing. 
 
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, calling our stadium a sauna on a mudheap
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think he'll be a great signing. with having about 8 years experience in the lower leagues in the uk, the oppurtunity to sign someone like this doesnt come by too often. He's still young too (compared to when the knights signed a bunch of old journeymen, with lower league experience.
 
Ill be putting him in my fantasy league team
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axmfc wrote:
I'm not sure that the Mulligan signing was absolutely necessary.� It's possible that the RB position is a real vulnerability and Mulligan may prove to be the best option there - time will tell.� However, at this time, my overall impression is that we're adding depth where depth wasn't really needed.
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I know that views on this have been aired in the past, but where we have absolutely no depth�is in the out-and-out striker position.

�

I still think it's a huge gamble and an unfair burden on Shane Smeltz to start the A-League with a single proven striker in the squad (the best other options this season are likely to be bit players only - Coveny is well past his best and Costa is inexperienced).� Moreover, I don't think the midfielders we've signed up will compensate for the lack of depth up front.� This to me�was evidenced�in Sunday's game, despite it being the first competitive game, the difficult weather conditions, and the fact we won.

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Tony P has stated the club wants depth in all positions, which is the right aim.� Waiting several games into the A-League to find out that Smeltz alone is inadequate is too late to recover the season, given the low number of games.� Therefore, the highest priority must be to secure a quality striker before the season kicks off as well as, if possible,�a marquee player.� Every game (and win) in the league is precious - let's not wait until its too late.� If we are truly aiming for a top four position, we need to be well resourced in all departments from the start.� It's going to be a tough competition as CCM proved on Sunday, and they weren't all that impressive.


Have to both disagree and agree.

Disagree on not needing to sign a RB - none of our options at RB before Mulligan looked particularly promising, so getting a specialist in was very necessary. It's up to Mulligan now to prove his ability there and secure a place in the starting line-up.

Agree on the need for another quality striker. I thought this even before the game on Sunday, and after it I became even more convinced we need another good player alongside Smeltz. I think he'll have a difficult time playing up front on his own, and I'm interested to see how Kwasnik fits in there. But I still think we need someone else, but that's obviously much easier said than done.
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