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Hail ___ the Chief - Giancarlo Italiano

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about 1 month ago
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.
about 1 month ago
imanixsupporter
Something to keep in mind is we are looking at a big rebuild before next season. We won't be able to retain Eze, and hard to argue that any of our other imports will or should stay. Rufer could also go. Armiento, Retre & Mileusnic all off contract too. Singh will almost certainly be going somewhere else after the World Cup.

Some of these players might stay but it is very possible that they all leave and I am sure at least half will go. 

Chiefy has now done 2 rebuilds. Never got his side working after the first, and here we are two-thirds of the way through the season after his second rebuild and he still hasn't got things working properly. Hard to argue there is any value in keeping the same man in place for continuity's sake. 

After reading this my excitement and optimism just completely vanished... Its tough 
about 1 month ago
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

about 1 month ago
ballane
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.

I can back this up. At the practices, they look exciting, moving the ball about quickly with a lot of one touch passing and shooting from anywhere. I really wonder where the game day performances come from, not from the training field. 

I really dislike sideways, backwards passing - even from an attacking position and the ball either ends up with a CB doing a big hoof up the field and possession lost or it's back to the Kepper with the same result. The players need to own some of this. If plan A is not working, switch to plan B. 

The team needlessly put themselves under so much pressure so unnecessarily and too often. And usually stupid goals are conceded.
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about 1 month ago
for those that regularly do to trainings, would you be brave enough to ask one of the players about this very thing.
If you are saying that they are being trained and coached to play differently to what we see on gameday the question has to be asked = why?????

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 1 month ago
I just listen to an interview with Lewandowski and how Klopp unlocked a young Robert to perform at game day.
You can blame the player all day long, but it's  99% the coach work to make them believe they can play and win.
Maybe Italiano is not a great match day team motivator?
about 1 month ago
There used to be a coach in Argentina whose team was struggling to score goals for a long period, they asked him what he thinks is the issue and he replied “I really don’t know! In training we score a lot of goals!”. Ultimately, what you see in training can be replicated with the pressure of a game , teams always try to take your strengths away from you in whatever way it is..
ballane
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.
about 1 month ago
theprof
for those that regularly do to trainings, would you be brave enough to ask one of the players about this very thing.
If you are saying that they are being trained and coached to play differently to what we see on gameday the question has to be asked = why?????
Not heading up there this week but happy to ask when i go up pre derby

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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ballane
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.

I agree that we have great performances in training (as per comments from others), but once you add opposition into the mix, it gets harder!
Jokes aside, I totally get it that our recent recruitment went into midfield (Singh and Sander) as this is where we were lacking transitional trength.  But I am concerned that apart from Hughes all our CB options since Surman and Wootton seem to be ponderous and hesitant.  Of course James and Tuiloma have shown some good flashes of performance, but their overall "air" is one of lack of confidence.   And we do not seem able to find anyone of Cacace or Sutton quality (Armiento is excellent but he is not a defender).  
So despite our relatively good scoring stats, we seem to be leaking goals (except the McCarron clean sheet). And we cannot take that kind of performance into the finals, if we get there.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 1 month ago
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.
You need a sweeper keeper to play the high line properly. Oluwayemi can play that role, AKH and McCarron are much less effective at it. Without Josh, the high line can’t function as intended.
about 1 month ago
and Josh took almost an entire season to get used to the highline/sweeper keeper role.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 1 month ago
Friar Tuck
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.
You need a sweeper keeper to play the high line properly. Oluwayemi can play that role, AKH and McCarron are much less effective at it. Without Josh, the high line can’t function as intended.

Playing out does use one of AKH's strengths, and can be effective if teams are committing numbers forward.

Chiefy did mention De Zerbi as a coach he admires in his first season as head coach, something he was good at at Brighton and sounds like still at OM. This video sort of shows the patterns of play that Chiefy wants when playing out (which we did really well in the first season with bounce passes often from Zawada and third man runs):
about 1 month ago
Bullion
Friar Tuck
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.
You need a sweeper keeper to play the high line properly. Oluwayemi can play that role, AKH and McCarron are much less effective at it. Without Josh, the high line can’t function as intended.

Playing out does use one of AKH's strengths, and can be effective if teams are committing numbers forward.

Chiefy did mention De Zerbi as a coach he admires in his first season as head coach, something he was good at at Brighton and sounds like still at OM. This video sort of shows the patterns of play that Chiefy wants when playing out (which we did really well in the first season with bounce passes often from Zawada and third man runs):
Yep, AKH can absolutely play the 23/24 playing out style (though of course not to the level of AP), but high line sweeping is a whole other game.

Footwork is incredibly useful, but timing, positioning and decision making are the key attributes for a sweeper style, and those take a long time to perfect alongside a defence who need to be on the exact same page.
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the big problem we have with the above is the fact we've used 2 keepers this season. Just as Josh was starting to look decent he gets hurt, so we bring in McCarron - he gets swapped out cos he's young and his mins are being managed, now we have AKH, who has to fit in with the 3 CB's who also now have Tuiloma to work with.
It's a lot of change to figure out in a short space of time, especially when the opposition operates a static defensive block and they are disciplined with it.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 1 month ago
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.

I'm not sure we, the players, the opposition, nor the coach know what style we'll be playing week to week.
about 1 month ago
Ninja
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.

I'm not sure we, the players, the opposition, nor the coach know what style we'll be playing week to week.

Take it as it comes. Very random not yet effective enough.
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about 1 month ago
Ninja
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.

I'm not sure we, the players, the opposition, nor the coach know what style we'll be playing week to week.

100%, some coaches set their team up based on countering how they think their opposition will play, while some coaches stick to their style/philosophy of how they want their team to play week in and out regardless of their opponent. I think given Chiefy was an analyst he leans towards the former. 

In my opinion, given the quality of the A-League, I think it's best to do one or two things right and mostly stick to it. I don't think there's many players who can be highly effective playing in a new position/role/different instructions every week. Particularly not the younger players coming through. 

As an oversimplified example: what's De Vries role for AFC? Get forward, cross balls in. What's Sheridan's role for the Nix been this year? Right back, Centre Back, Left back, CDM all with different instructions. It must be difficult to keep up and get particularly good at anything. 

(with the cavaet that yes, injuries have played an influence in these changes - but hasn't always been the case, e.g. Armiento to 10 and LKH as our new LWB) 


about 1 month ago
Since2007
Ninja
austin111
Chiefy said that playing KH as keeper is a good option as he is  good at playing out from the back.
We are not going back to last years football are we?
Because we seem to be giving up on the high line. Maybe the style is changing to slot in the new arrivals.
But we have lost momentum. I loved the first half of the season.....it was fun. Its a big call to change style and setup with only 10 games to go.

I'm not sure we, the players, the opposition, nor the coach know what style we'll be playing week to week.

100%, some coaches set their team up based on countering how they think their opposition will play, while some coaches stick to their style/philosophy of how they want their team to play week in and out regardless of their opponent. I think given Chiefy was an analyst he leans towards the former. 

In my opinion, given the quality of the A-League, I think it's best to do one or two things right and mostly stick to it. I don't think there's many players who can be highly effective playing in a new position/role/different instructions every week. Particularly not the younger players coming through. 

As an oversimplified example: what's De Vries role for AFC? Get forward, cross balls in. What's Sheridan's role for the Nix been this year? Right back, Centre Back, Left back, CDM all with different instructions. It must be difficult to keep up and get particularly good at anything. 

(with the cavaet that yes, injuries have played an influence in these changes - but hasn't always been the case, e.g. Armiento to 10 and LKH as our new LWB) 



Absolutely. Difficult enough for a youngster to play different positions at NL level. Less of a problem if it is LW or RW, or as a 6 or an 8 which are related positions but LKH has played LB, LWB, LCB, 6 and from memory 8 and 10. Sheridan has played LB, RB, CB, 6, 11 and 7. Conchie who played all his amateur football as a 6 has predominantly played as a 8 or 10. Piper has played as a RWB, RB, CB, 10, wing and 9. Not surprisingly the youngster that has developed the most is Hughes and he has almost exclusively played in his preferred position as a CB. Some of Chief's decisions are beyond bizarre!
about 1 month ago
this is possibly the one thing I agree with around "what the hell is Italiano up to"
it does however fit his plan to have players capable of playing multiple positions, you may recall his plan was to have a very fluid shape with players floating on attack, making it difficult to defend - I questioned it at the time saying it was going to take a lot of time for players who are used to playing in a rigid-ish shape and a set position to adapt to Italiano's planned fluidity.

Queenslander 3x a year.

about 1 month ago
theprof
this is possibly the one thing I agree with around "what the hell is Italiano up to"
it does however fit his plan to have players capable of playing multiple positions, you may recall his plan was to have a very fluid shape with players floating on attack, making it difficult to defend - I questioned it at the time saying it was going to take a lot of time for players who are used to playing in a rigid-ish shape and a set position to adapt to Italiano's planned fluidity.
theprof
this is possibly the one thing I agree with around "what the hell is Italiano up to"
it does however fit his plan to have players capable of playing multiple positions, you may recall his plan was to have a very fluid shape with players floating on attack, making it difficult to defend - I questioned it at the time saying it was going to take a lot of time for players who are used to playing in a rigid-ish shape and a set position to adapt to Italiano's planned fluidity.

Yeah, I am sure there are countless teams across the globe that seek to play with fluidity. However, and happy to be corrected on this, but I have never come across any professional manager that expects players to play in a myriad of unrelated positions. 
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For players to be this "fluid" and play multiple positions they have to have a lot experience to do it well. 
Does WSW have experienced players?  They sure do.  Have they been able to translate it into a good consistent performance this season? Not yet.  Even for A-FC who have some truly high quality experienced players with overseas experience it has been a bit of a hit and miss this season.  
It does not even need to be a positional fluidity that stymies performance, it may be confidence or being "rusty". I may be unfair, but I would compare Tuiloma's headspace, at present, with Guillermo May's headspace, at present. Excellent experienced players both, who are unable to perform well at the moment, for whatever reason.  That "not 100%" performance may be enough for the team to lose a game by one goal, or end up with a draw when a win was possible.  It could be that all it takes is a long season of consistent play until things become second nature again.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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It’s interesting. 

Sheridan’s versatility has perhaps worked against him. But equally he’s not replacing Payne, Nagasawa or Rufer. Or Tuiloma or James. 

But I would argue Sheridan has been a reliable player for Chief. He’s essentially had one job- defend. He’s been defensively solid. Sometimes he’s made forward runs, played some passes in behind or even thundered a shot twice, but not before the defense is solid. 

I think most of us thought that Loke or LKH would be our LB/LWB. Neither of them were comfortable defending an high line against the A league attacks we’ve seen this year, but Sheridan was. Where ever he’s been he’s worked hard and been useful for his coach. I’d say without him we’d be last by some distance. 

However, the career path is reminiscent of Rufer/Ridenton/Fenton, rather than Payne, Surman or others. 

LKH has been tried at a bunch of places and shown that LCB in a 3 is his best/only position to potentially start in. However he looked good there at age group, that pass he fizzed for Armiento was a piece of class. 

Hughes is older?

Conchie I think has been given a fair few  chances at 6, not secured a place there, and only able to get minutes further forward. 

Chief, and the rest of us want Piper to play as a forward. He’s settled there and he’s improved his ability in that position since last season. I’d argue that he’s much improved and still improving. And frankly he’s a player who makes things happens and I was skeptical, but I’ve become a fan. He’s exciting to watch.

So summing up, Sheridan has been a handy utility to cover gaps, Chief attempted to push LKH further forward, but that failed and others are not trusted in their preferred position (including Supyk who doesn’t have much versatility) and including KH at LB. 

I don’t think this is down to fluid play or tactical flexibility, but just because we’ve had a patchy squad with injuries and we’ve been struggling, even now a little at LB/LWB because ideally Armiento should be further forward, to cover a starting 11.


about 1 month ago
I'm still not sold on Piper as a forward, he looked more dangerous when he was played wide last season and was able to get into the box for a cross. As a front man his first touch lets him down so so often.

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"I don’t think this is down to fluid play or tactical flexibility, but just because we’ve had a patchy squad with injuries and we’ve been struggling"

This is spot on - patchy squad means that even with one decent player out (Payne, or Rufer, perhaps Josh in this context) a certain game plan cannot be executed well, no matter how reliable someone like Sheridan is. 
As an example, Kosta was devoid of service last season possibly because we did not have a good midfield after Pennington and Kraev (and Al-Taay) left.  Piper and Hughes managed to score though against all odds. Now we have Armiento, Eze and now a potential for a good midfield so we are scoring again, especially with Hughes (and Piper) contributing, but so far we found it hard to replace Wootton next to Hughes, with both James and Tuiloma being "not quite there yet" quality.   Maybe all it takes is more time, which we hardly have this season. 
All of this is really me just thinking aloud, skirting around the topic of "developing young players for a quick sale", and thinking, good grief can we have at least one more season out of Hughes, rather than having to seemingly go through this again next season.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 1 month ago
martinb
It’s interesting. 

Sheridan’s versatility has perhaps worked against him. But equally he’s not replacing Payne, Nagasawa or Rufer. Or Tuiloma or James. 

But I would argue Sheridan has been a reliable player for Chief. He’s essentially had one job- defend. He’s been defensively solid. Sometimes he’s made forward runs, played some passes in behind or even thundered a shot twice, but not before the defense is solid. 

I think most of us thought that Loke or LKH would be our LB/LWB. Neither of them were comfortable defending an high line against the A league attacks we’ve seen this year, but Sheridan was. Where ever he’s been he’s worked hard and been useful for his coach. I’d say without him we’d be last by some distance. 

However, the career path is reminiscent of Rufer/Ridenton/Fenton, rather than Payne, Surman or others. 

LKH has been tried at a bunch of places and shown that LCB in a 3 is his best/only position to potentially start in. However he looked good there at age group, that pass he fizzed for Armiento was a piece of class. 

Hughes is older?

Conchie I think has been given a fair few  chances at 6, not secured a place there, and only able to get minutes further forward. 

Chief, and the rest of us want Piper to play as a forward. He’s settled there and he’s improved his ability in that position since last season. I’d argue that he’s much improved and still improving. And frankly he’s a player who makes things happens and I was skeptical, but I’ve become a fan. He’s exciting to watch.

So summing up, Sheridan has been a handy utility to cover gaps, Chief attempted to push LKH further forward, but that failed and others are not trusted in their preferred position (including Supyk who doesn’t have much versatility) and including KH at LB. 

I don’t think this is down to fluid play or tactical flexibility, but just because we’ve had a patchy squad with injuries and we’ve been struggling, even now a little at LB/LWB because ideally Armiento should be further forward, to cover a starting 11.
a lot of players will play various positions, especially if they transition from youth to senior football. Payne started as an attacker and worked his way backwards to cb before shifting wide to rb. Same for Tuiloma, Fenton, Sutton etc. Also, we dont have unlimited subs so players will need to be able to play various positions.
about 1 month ago
Bullion
martinb
It’s interesting. 

Sheridan’s versatility has perhaps worked against him. But equally he’s not replacing Payne, Nagasawa or Rufer. Or Tuiloma or James. 

But I would argue Sheridan has been a reliable player for Chief. He’s essentially had one job- defend. He’s been defensively solid. Sometimes he’s made forward runs, played some passes in behind or even thundered a shot twice, but not before the defense is solid. 

I think most of us thought that Loke or LKH would be our LB/LWB. Neither of them were comfortable defending an high line against the A league attacks we’ve seen this year, but Sheridan was. Where ever he’s been he’s worked hard and been useful for his coach. I’d say without him we’d be last by some distance. 

However, the career path is reminiscent of Rufer/Ridenton/Fenton, rather than Payne, Surman or others. 

LKH has been tried at a bunch of places and shown that LCB in a 3 is his best/only position to potentially start in. However he looked good there at age group, that pass he fizzed for Armiento was a piece of class. 

Hughes is older?

Conchie I think has been given a fair few  chances at 6, not secured a place there, and only able to get minutes further forward. 

Chief, and the rest of us want Piper to play as a forward. He’s settled there and he’s improved his ability in that position since last season. I’d argue that he’s much improved and still improving. And frankly he’s a player who makes things happens and I was skeptical, but I’ve become a fan. He’s exciting to watch.

So summing up, Sheridan has been a handy utility to cover gaps, Chief attempted to push LKH further forward, but that failed and others are not trusted in their preferred position (including Supyk who doesn’t have much versatility) and including KH at LB. 

I don’t think this is down to fluid play or tactical flexibility, but just because we’ve had a patchy squad with injuries and we’ve been struggling, even now a little at LB/LWB because ideally Armiento should be further forward, to cover a starting 11.
a lot of players will play various positions, especially if they transition from youth to senior football. Payne started as an attacker and worked his way backwards to cb before shifting wide to rb. Same for Tuiloma, Fenton, Sutton etc. Also, we dont have unlimited subs so players will need to be able to play various positions.

Yep I get that, but not to the extent to which it has been done over the last 2 seasons......around 80% of the (older), younger players (LKH. Sheridan, Conchie and Piper) continually in different positions without ever settling on one or two max. Not great for their development imo
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ballane
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.
It's on the coach to prepare his players for game day. Clearly they're not being prepared properly. If a player feels confident in where they're supposed to position themselves, when they should attack, when they should press, have knowledge of their oppositions weaknesses/strengths etc. - then they play better. I don't see a team out there, I see a bunch of individuals trying to impress.

I really think the squad we have now is pretty decent. I guarantee with a better manager who simplifies things, we'd look far better. Italiano is clearly overthinking everything and has done so for more than a year.

a.haak

about 1 month ago
Maybe we need to give Stajcic a gig as a Motivational Coach.  

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 1 month ago
valeo
ballane
I just dont get it i have watched them in training a number of times and you see quick one touch passing going to the player intended in both opposed and unopposed sessions. No pissing around no backwards forwards sideways rubbish.
Come game day its like they just meet in the changing rooms somedays slow labored no one prepared to take someone on.
You can blame Chief all you want for tactics, selections, and substitutions. But for me at some stage the players have to take responsibility for some of the shark we are seeing.  We get slow boring shark most of a game then lately the last 10 minutes they decide to up the pace and play. If playing AKH means we are going to get this play out from the back crap would rather he stays on the bench.
Unless they get some confidence and give us some honest effort then that FKN wooden spoon will be ours again. I for one am over that being the FKN only thing we have one.
It's on the coach to prepare his players for game day. Clearly they're not being prepared properly. If a player feels confident in where they're supposed to position themselves, when they should attack, when they should press, have knowledge of their oppositions weaknesses/strengths etc. - then they play better. I don't see a team out there, I see a bunch of individuals trying to impress.

I really think the squad we have now is pretty decent. I guarantee with a better manager who simplifies things, we'd look far better. Italiano is clearly overthinking everything and has done so for more than a year.
While i tend to agree i also think at some point the players  have to have pride in their performance. You can say Chief is responsible for heaps of things  but he isnt responsible for bad passes failure to make a tackle  and any number of other things that are directly the players job.
Its fine saying you dont see a team but that just dosnt fit with how they interact with each other at training pre-game or even during a game they seem a pretty tight group.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

about 1 month ago
No idea if he has any interest in leaving Norway, but I’d like to see Olli Harder at least be an option to succeed Italiano.

Kiwi coach, previously managed the Klepp IL, West Ham and Brann women’s teams as well as men’s youth teams. He’s currently the head coach of the Viking FK reserves (Joe Bell’s club).

He seems to over perform relative to the baseline of the clubs he’s managed, which is a good sign for his individual performance.
28 days ago
At best, we need something different. At worst, he's fully to blame. 
Either way Chiefy's gone.

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28 days ago
Nathaniel Lees, please sir.


28 days ago
You gotta go bud. Or you’ve fairly belligerently killed the club. 

Even with help from our friends and the players of late, we’ve flatlined. It’s not bad players, it’s the team.

Be graceful. Don’t hang around like Darjie. 


28 days ago
zonknz

Thanks for your service, Chief. It’s been a difficult couple of years. You fought hard, but this has been a difficult task for a lot of coaches. 

I enjoyed lots of good moments this season. Resigning was the honorable thing to do after this game. All the best.


28 days ago · edited 28 days ago · History
Wonder what happened between the press conferences because the on-field one didn't indicate that he was leaving.

But, Chief took us to some massive heights and seems like a good guy. Probably a very good assistant but not really a head coach.
28 days ago
We'll always have that first season. Thank you, Chief
28 days ago
I hope people dont think Greenacre is the answer.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

28 days ago
We may never recover from the damage Chiefy did to this club
28 days ago
ballane
I hope people dont think Greenacre is the answer.

Maybe if the question who's taking trainings this week...