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over 17 years

RR wrote:

valeo wrote:

As we've gotten rid of Nichols, we need to fill the most important piece of the roster - Mr Punchable Face.

I see Kruse is avaliable..

Last time we tried to sign him he rocked up to the training ground, then hopped back in his car and flew back to Aussie. So I would think that is rather unlikely.

Yeah but that was because he got wind of HN turning up with a sniper rifle.
Chant Savant
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12K
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about 17 years

If we hadn't been through so much crap with the club over the past decade or so I think I might be very concerned with the current predicament. But what supporting this club had taught me is that the playing field is never going to be level and we will be always running up hill, whether we like it or not.

Does it suck anus to be in the position we are in with recruitment? Ken Oath it does. 

Do I trust Ufuk Talay to do everything in his powers to drag us out of this mess? Yep I do.

Marquee
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6.8K
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almost 17 years

No Dura, no party. We need that guy at the club. Very upsetting if he leaves. 

Trialist
0
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3
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over 7 years

We really need that guy

First Team Squad
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1K
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over 7 years

reg22 wrote:

The one thing I am critical of in regards to the club ownership/management or whatever, is that we currently have a bunch of non-contracted youth internationals and other promising players that have been left to be picked off by other clubs

Normally the Australian clubs would have their heads inserted so far up their own arses that they wouldn't be interested in our youth. But if our boys keep coming up with good results this week, this will all change.

Leaving it all to one person (Rudan, then Talay) to eventually make up their mind on them is irresponsible.

It should be obvious to the club that you secure your young players and that it's normal say to any coach, "due to their long term importance, these are the players we've retained, you have no say in this"

Not while they are visa slots to an Aussie club.

Phoenix Academy
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170
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over 6 years

For me the priority moving forward is to sign up as many of the NZ U20s side as we can. Singh, Cacace (already signed) Stensness, Waine, McCowatt etc... These are the future of our club...

First Team Squad
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over 13 years

OzNix wrote:

For me the priority moving forward is to sign up as many of the NZ U20s side as we can. Singh, Cacace (already signed) Stensness, Waine, McCowatt etc... These are the future of our club...

It's gutting to think that internal politics could keep some of these kids away from the Phoenix

Opinion Privileges revoked
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over 14 years

dunnix wrote:

It's gutting to think that internal politics could keep some of these kids away from the Phoenix

The obvious answer is to let Declan Edge take over the Phoenix Academy

(disclaimer: may actually be stupid idea)

Marquee
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7.3K
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about 17 years

Or it could be the best idea ever....

Legend
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23K
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about 9 years

Or it could be the best idea ever....

It would be one of the two.

WeeNix
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960
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almost 11 years

been really impressed by that joe bell kid, would be nice to see him back at the club especially considering how low our midfield stocks are.

Marquee
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over 17 years

Think you might find some of the 20s squad are going to get better offer than we can give them.Given the option of NZ or overseas as a young fella its a no brainer which you would take.

Marquee
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5.1K
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about 13 years

Joey Johns wrote:

been really impressed by that joe bell kid, would be nice to see him back at the club especially considering how low our midfield stocks are.

No way he is coming back, he is at University of Virginia in the States. Be better for him to complete his studies first than risk going pro. Maybe after Uni if we are still around but if he does well there he probably has a good chance of going into the draft for the MLS.

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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about 17 years

I think he's a good player, but he's also quite similar to Rufer - I think Rufer will be playing a lot of minutes again and if we have Stensness that will fill the young kiwi midfielder quota.

Marquee
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almost 12 years

It was interesting listening to Piney this morning say he expects Singh and Carcace to stay another year in the A League and leave as it would be best for them.

I tend to agree, but would it be best for the NIX? Personally, if the NIX get offers in for the two of them I think they should take it (if a reasonable offer) as letting them go off contract will see any payout being minimal at best (my understanding is if an off contract youth player (u23) signs with another club, despite having an offer from his current club, a transfer is set by a committee??)

Get as much money as you can, ask for a future fee percentage, and if they are signed as players for the future, see if you can't negotiate a loan for the next year as well. 

I think the NIX need to be a bit more ruthless - we have two of the best youth prospects in Asia/Oceania and should make use/cash in on this.

Marquee
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9.5K
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almost 14 years

What happens alot in the aleague is a team sells their young players then get them back on loans as they're not ready for the step up to europe. Hopefully the Phoenix can do something similar.

First Team Squad
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1.3K
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over 5 years

Ryan wrote:

What happens alot in the aleague is a team sells their young players then get them back on loans as they're not ready for the step up to europe. Hopefully the Phoenix can do something similar.

Yeah if we can do that would be a lot better because losing those two for the upcoming season will be like destined for bottom two imo

Legend
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16K
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over 17 years

Yakcall wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

been really impressed by that joe bell kid, would be nice to see him back at the club especially considering how low our midfield stocks are.

No way he is coming back, he is at University of Virginia in the States. Be better for him to complete his studies first than risk going pro. Maybe after Uni if we are still around but if he does well there he probably has a good chance of going into the draft for the MLS.

nothing wrong with Whitireia

First Team Squad
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1.9K
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over 16 years

OzNix wrote:

For me the priority moving forward is to sign up as many of the NZ U20s side as we can. Singh, Cacace (already signed) Stensness, Waine, McCowatt etc... These are the future of our club...

Stensness scored a screamer for under 20's against Norway

Starting XI
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4.1K
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over 17 years

ClubOranje wrote:

reg22 wrote:

The one thing I am critical of in regards to the club ownership/management or whatever, is that we currently have a bunch of non-contracted youth internationals and other promising players that have been left to be picked off by other clubs

Normally the Australian clubs would have their heads inserted so far up their own arses that they wouldn't be interested in our youth. But if our boys keep coming up with good results this week, this will all change.

Leaving it all to one person (Rudan, then Talay) to eventually make up their mind on them is irresponsible.

It should be obvious to the club that you secure your young players and that it's normal say to any coach, "due to their long term importance, these are the players we've retained, you have no say in this"

Not while they are visa slots to an Aussie club.

Stensness could sign as an Australian

Marquee
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5.8K
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over 17 years

reg22 wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

reg22 wrote:

The one thing I am critical of in regards to the club ownership/management or whatever, is that we currently have a bunch of non-contracted youth internationals and other promising players that have been left to be picked off by other clubs

Normally the Australian clubs would have their heads inserted so far up their own arses that they wouldn't be interested in our youth. But if our boys keep coming up with good results this week, this will all change.

Leaving it all to one person (Rudan, then Talay) to eventually make up their mind on them is irresponsible.

It should be obvious to the club that you secure your young players and that it's normal say to any coach, "due to their long term importance, these are the players we've retained, you have no say in this"

Not while they are visa slots to an Aussie club.

Stensness could sign as an Australian

Thought he was contracted to us
Woof Woof
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19K
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almost 17 years

ballane wrote:

reg22 wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

reg22 wrote:

The one thing I am critical of in regards to the club ownership/management or whatever, is that we currently have a bunch of non-contracted youth internationals and other promising players that have been left to be picked off by other clubs

Normally the Australian clubs would have their heads inserted so far up their own arses that they wouldn't be interested in our youth. But if our boys keep coming up with good results this week, this will all change.

Leaving it all to one person (Rudan, then Talay) to eventually make up their mind on them is irresponsible.

It should be obvious to the club that you secure your young players and that it's normal say to any coach, "due to their long term importance, these are the players we've retained, you have no say in this"

Not while they are visa slots to an Aussie club.

Stensness could sign as an Australian

Thought he was contracted to us

Neither he nor Waine are signed for the next season as of right now.

Marquee
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5.6K
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almost 12 years

while not signed to professional contracts are they signed as youth players?

Starting XI
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2.5K
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over 8 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

while not signed to professional contracts are they signed as youth players?

They are youth players who are under no obligation to stay with the Nix should someone else stick a contract under their nose
Woof Woof
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19K
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almost 17 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

while not signed to professional contracts are they signed as youth players?

I don't think so, but someone who keeps a closer eye on this may be able to confirm more definitively.

Opinion Privileges revoked
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9.9K
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over 14 years

Probably safest to assume that they're all gone

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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about 17 years

Love the optimism. At least we've already locked in the best two.

First Team Squad
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1.9K
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almost 7 years

Doloras wrote:

Probably safest to assume that they're all gone

Waine is still only 17 and has played what, two pro games? I'd be surprised if he didn't come back to the nix, even if its just a one year contract like elliot
Marquee
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over 17 years

valeo wrote:

Love the optimism. At least we've already locked in the best two.

They might be but if a decent offer was made for either of them the Phoenix would be fools if they didnt consider it.Much better to get something while you can rather than just have their contracts run out.
Marquee
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6.8K
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almost 17 years

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

First Team Squad
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over 5 years

el grapadura wrote:

ballane wrote:

reg22 wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

reg22 wrote:

The one thing I am critical of in regards to the club ownership/management or whatever, is that we currently have a bunch of non-contracted youth internationals and other promising players that have been left to be picked off by other clubs

Normally the Australian clubs would have their heads inserted so far up their own arses that they wouldn't be interested in our youth. But if our boys keep coming up with good results this week, this will all change.

Leaving it all to one person (Rudan, then Talay) to eventually make up their mind on them is irresponsible.

It should be obvious to the club that you secure your young players and that it's normal say to any coach, "due to their long term importance, these are the players we've retained, you have no say in this"

Not while they are visa slots to an Aussie club.

Stensness could sign as an Australian

Thought he was contracted to us

Neither he nor Waine are signed for the next season as of right now.

Thats a bit shark. Had presumed they'd had contracts arranged. Probably playing with all their might to get a deal elsewhere. 

First Team Squad
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over 6 years

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

Maybe if he'll pay to play, capital football style?

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almost 15 years

Friar Tuck wrote:

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

Maybe if he'll pay to play, capital football style?

Wasn't Andrew Nabbout released by the Victory after being underwhelming? He turned out alright.

First Team Squad
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1.9K
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almost 7 years

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

No thanks. 1 goal in 53 a league games. I get a large chunk of those are from off the bench, but he'll be 26 by the start of next season and would take away minutes that could go to someone like Waine or McCowatt (if we can sign those guys) 
Starting XI
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over 17 years

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

Yip, definitely

Legend
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23K
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about 9 years

reg22 wrote:

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

Yip, definitely

Soccerway says a total of 1,710 minutes in the A League, so equivalent to 19 full games for that goal.

Victory not such an easy team to break into. Had a little opening late last year, but then got injured himself. 

Worth a trial.

First Team Squad
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over 7 years

coochiee wrote:

reg22 wrote:

kwlap wrote:

Jai Ingham has been release by Victory. Any takers?

Yip, definitely

Soccerway says a total of 1,710 minutes in the A League, so equivalent to 19 full games for that goal.

Victory not such an easy team to break into. Had a little opening late last year, but then got injured himself. 

Worth a trial.

Wash your mouth out. Kiwis don't trial for Phoenix. 

Trialist
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110
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almost 17 years

el grapadura wrote:

Neither he nor Waine are signed for the next season as of right now.

Thats a bit shark. Had presumed they'd had contracts arranged. Probably playing with all their might to get a deal elsewhere. 

Or playing with all their might to get further up the Phoenix pecking order.

Phoenix Academy
310
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160
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about 7 years

We are going to need to find a new LB for the coming season. Libby has been the best kiwi player at the U20 WC. I was listening to a Euro U20 WC pod today and the panel rated him the standout LB of the tournament so far....there was even speculation about where he might end up. He will certainly be in hot demand. Left backs are in short supply. Who knows, he always said he wanted to play pro football in Italy. He could live his dream sooner than he thinks.

I guess the only plus for the Nix would be a transfer fee...plus a percentage of future transfers.

Marquee
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almost 12 years

can you link the pod cast please. I've been wanting to hear what people outside of NZ are saying about us.

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