Finkler out for the Victory, that could be a huge blow for them, especially as Rojas wasn't getting the ball in good places once Finkler left the field on Tuesday. We are going to need to be at our best to pick up our first ever win in Victoria, and if the MRP give Manny a suspension then it will make the job even harder.
Ricki should go and watch the Wanderers vs Victory tape if he wants to know how to beat the Victory. WSW were tight, well organised and worked hard to stop the through balls to Rojas and Thompson. They also were very good at keeping possession for large parts of the game and forced Victory onto the back foot with their well organised attacks. Ono was outstanding organising their play(and scoring two wondergoals)
If we keep hoofing back possession and leave our normal big holes in CM and play a high line in defense then we will get smashed!
Ricki should go and watch the Wanderers vs Victory tape if he wants to know how to beat the Victory. WSW were tight, well organised and worked hard to stop the through balls to Rojas and Thompson. They also were very good at keeping possession for large parts of the game and forced Victory onto the back foot with their well organised attacks. Ono was outstanding organising their play(and scoring two wondergoals)
If we keep hoofing back possession and leave our normal big holes in CM and play a high line in defense then we will get smashed!
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
Three for me, and two for them.
As for the match, a point would be decent.
Three for me, and two for them.
Biarchie Thomspon and Marco Rojudas are going to rip us an extra arsehole!
Not looking forward to it to be honest!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
Anyone know where the Phoenix would be training in Melbourne?
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
Fuck this stupid game
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
Three for me, and two for them.
As for the match, a point would be decent.
Decent???? I will be out all night celebrating if we get a point...
Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka
http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
In fact, is there anyone at the tennis who could do this as well? Might as well target all major events happening in NZ in the near future while he still has a job.
Fuck this stupid game
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
To any fans going to the match:
If you could be so kind as to take a massive "Hesson Out" banner along and place it view of the cameras, it would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
The NZ public
In fact, is there anyone at the tennis who could do this as well? Might as well target all major events happening in NZ in the near future while he still has a job.
So keen for this to happen!
If QPR can beat Chelsea away, we should be looking to whip Melbourne!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
If QPR can beat Chelsea away, we should be looking to whip Melbourne!
If QPR can beat Chelsea away, we should be looking to whip Melbourne!
Grumpy old bastard alert
I think the best chance we have against Melbourne is to really just hold on to the ball. That sound really simple and silly but its not a strength of ours. Take into account the Marco and Archie can't do stuff all without the ball and also that they are a hell of a lot faster than our back line, I would rather we held on to it and do nothing just to strangle then out of the game and see what we can pinch.
The more possession they have, the more chances they have of score (stating the obvious)
Also not sit so high up the field this time like we seem to do every time.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Sack Rickie; replace with Nelson asap! Why wait for Trafalgar (i.e.finishing rock bottom and down the drain).
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
If QPR can beat Chelsea away, we should be looking to whip Melbourne!
Argh, my fault for coming on a football forum when I was yet to watch a game, but spoilers!
guess its a toss up between stein & totori to start in place of boyd.
I would usually say stein, but think totori may actually thrive against the victory "defense".
Also will be good to see cam get some game time, probably off of the bench though.
ANy word on who has been added to the squad? because surely 1 or 2 guys have flown over? Boxall? Downey?
Manny out according to Piney, not sure if suspended or dropped.
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
Need more height in Mdfield (ie Smith) He has been winning everything in the air this season when he's played!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
Need more height in Mdfield (ie Smith) He has been winning everything in the air this season when he's played!
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
So if they play 2 up the front and we have 4 at the back, that means that we have 2 players doing zip and elsewhere on the park(probably midfield) we are going to be overrun
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
I don't think we should be too scared of Victory. Other than Rojas, Archie, Traore, Finkler (who is out), and to a lesser extent Nabout, they haven't been playing all that well. I think our best way of playing them is to press when their defenders have it, you are likely to turn over ball high up the field, but then the defense has to drop more quickly when/if they get it through to their midfield and not under immediate pressure. It was that second part we didn't do against them in the earlier round and they got in behind us far too easily. This is the sort of game I would even consider playing 3 at the back, Melbourne aren't playing any genuine strikers so having 4 back there will be leaving dead players a lot.
Playing high with 3 at the back will be a spanking and a half. I laugh at no genuine strikers. Where does Rojas sit on the golden boot? How many has Archie scored in his career?
Grumpy old bastard alert
Manny out according to Piney, not sure if suspended or dropped.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Downey?
If he's going he hasn't yet. Spotted him on the way to the gym around blunchtime.
I know I've said this before but to hold onto the ball Fenton and Boyd need to move in field 5-10 yards. Obviously have a go out wide when the opportunity arises but the front 3 need to be slightly closer together to play short little link up passes. Otherwise it's knock it out wide (as the only option to pass to) then cross and bam possession lost
Manny out according to Piney, not sure if suspended or dropped.
Has Manny down as omitted. No specific reason given. Just dropped i guess
guess its a toss up between stein & totori to start in place of boyd.
I would usually say stein, but think totori may actually thrive against the victory "defense".
Also will be good to see cam get some game time, probably off of the bench though.
ANy word on who has been added to the squad? because surely 1 or 2 guys have flown over? Boxall? Downey?
Wellington Phoenix squad: 1.Mark Paston (GK), 3. Tony Lochhead, 5. Michael Boxall, 6. Alex Smith, 7. Leo Bertos, 9. Benjamin Totori, 10. Stein Huysegems, 11. Jeremy Brockie, 15. Cameron Lindsay, 16. Louis Fenton, 17. Vince Lia, 18. Ben Sigmund, 21. Dani Sanchez, 22. Andrew Durante (C), 30. Griffin McMaster (GK).
In: 5. Michael Boxall (promoted), 15. Cameron Lindsay (promoted).
Out: 2. Manny Muscat (omitted), 12. Tyler Boyd (suspended).
