Wellington Phoenix owner Terry Serepisos has been forced into an embarassing u-turn over the Wellington franchise's logo.
Media in Australia have compared the Phoenix logo with "something from a 1940s fascist jamboree".
The logo Serepisos unveiled last month features a similar bird, similar draping wings and similar head to Adolf Hilter's Third Reich logo.
The only thing missing is the Nazi swastika.
In another embarassing twist the original logo - designed by the Greek owner's cousin - is strikingly similar to that of Greek side AEK Athens FC.
Both logos are black and yellow and both feature a bird with draping wings.
Last night a Nix source confirmed a reworked logo will be presented to A-League bosses this week before being represented to the public.
it's unfortunate people read these things into what is just a
football clubs logo, of course there will always be similarities
with existing things, u dont see America changing its emblems with
eagles in them just because Adolf did that 2. Oh and add the
swastika its a buddist or hindu symbol for good luck so i hear.
Where was that Benny ? The Herald ?
I'd hope the FFA aren't listening to a couple of whiners, but it won't surpise me if they are. Hopefully that is the old wings spread logo, not the new Wings incorporated in to the shield one.
I'd hope the FFA aren't listening to a couple of whiners, but it won't surpise me if they are. Hopefully that is the old wings spread logo, not the new Wings incorporated in to the shield one.
it's unfortunate people read these things into what is just a
football clubs logo, of course there will always be similarities
with existing things, u dont see America changing its emblems with
eagles in them just because Adolf did that 2. Oh and add the
swastika its a buddist or hindu symbol for good luck so i hear.
As unfortunate as it would be to see the logo changed (I like the current one), the MLS team DC United had to change their initial logo because it was also compared to a nazi symbol. So it isn't a new idea.
yeah ive seen that one too, im guessing its the colour of it as
well, the black and red. its a shame we still associate colours and
imagery with the nazi's but i guess its best to change it so WPFC
doesnt get associated with fascists etc
The report was yesterday by stuff.co.nz :(
Think its stupid aswell myself. And why would it be
embarrassing? Its a logo at the end of the day. I care more about
the people that have the logo on their chest than the logo
itself
I can't see what the fuss is about. This is just a piece of smart
marketing by Terry S. The first logo was deliberately below par so
that it can be burned and a new one rise from the ashes.
Expect this to be a common theme with Phoenix related activity
in order to reinforce the brand. All decisions will initially
appear to be sh*t so that they can be "burned" and new ones take
their place. The man's a genius!
This also cements my view that a dead ex-premiership player
such as David Rocastle (1967-2001), Marc-Vivien Foe (1975-2003) or
Justin Fashanu (1961-1998) will be among the Phoenix' first
signings.
Wait, it is today Sherbert's supposed to announce his new signings right?
Hope he does a good job, I wanna see some quality Aussies announced long with the good kiwis.If Mulligan and/or Vicelich are announced amid the kiwi signings, thats a job very well done. The article about Bertos on the front page gave me a chuckle - in a way theyve done us a favour by keeping Plodder.
I believe that article was from Sunday News. We don't publish
unreliable anti Wellington speculation.
Founder
It's a shame for you guys and the league that they won't accept the logo. It was by far the best logo of the league. For some reason the FFA only like sh*t logos. So unfortunately I have a feeling your logo will be in line with the rest of them.
Most of the Aussies seemed to like the logo - even saying it was
the best in the league - so it seems only the media is against it,
and I would suggest its the anti-football lot is the media
mentioned, who get on the back of anything remotely negative and
turn it into a mass anti-football movement
well still i cant wait to see what the new new logo will be.
This thread is a duplication of one started earlier
http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41
tried creating a hyperlink but couldn't sorry
Kiwill2007-04-16 14:34:09
http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41
tried creating a hyperlink but couldn't sorry
Kiwill2007-04-16 14:34:09
Is there any conformation on this? I personally didn't like it. If
they're looking for an 'A League style' logo/ American how bout
I hope the logo is only slightly 'reworked' as stated in the article, they should leave the crest as it is and only change the bird thinghy
I really don't like that if its the real new logo. It has too
much yellow, and not enough black. Also, it appears to be very
similar to the Roar logo, only not as good.
I thought the other one was fine, 2nd only to the Mariners
one, which I really liked.
No it isnt, that was created on the 4th April, seeing as this news
was released yesterday, they didnt know this news.
I think the logo posted by the above is more likely what it'll be, a lot more 'cartoony'
I think the logo posted by the above is more likely what it'll be, a lot more 'cartoony'
its got a better head than the previous logo thats for sure, maybe
surgically attach it to the old logo or something??? i do hope they
keep the shield style tho but i cant imagine theyd keep it just
because whatever they did with it it will still look the same as
the old one and AEK's and adolf's etc etc.
I think the FFA werent happy with the stripes either, as they want
everyone to have this stupid reebok kit.
No it isnt, that was created on the 4th April, seeing as this news
was released yesterday, they didnt know this news.
I think the logo posted by the above is more likely what it'll be, a lot more 'cartoony'
I think the logo posted by the above is more likely what it'll be, a lot more 'cartoony'
I was merely pointing about that there was already a thread about the new logo.
So this thread is about the 'NEW' new logo that no-one has even seen yet so it is impossible to even comment on then.
I'll come back when there is something to talk about then. Oh...I won't be able to will I...as the thread will be old by then, and we will all be on another thread by then anyway talking about another new logo.
I'll try and find out and let you all know.
I didn't like how the article said "embarrasing" (which it
isn't) and I don't like "Nix"!
Founder
I reckon you'll have to cop the reebok sh*te for a season then,
like us you'll get the stripes like we got the 'V'
Shame about the logo, FFA seem to have a preference for yankee
franchise bollox rather than their own identity!!
I think it is not a bad thing, we can rework the logo and put up a
even better one. logo is just a logo, don't worry too much.
but a good logo will help people identify more with the club, if
its sh*t people probably wont
Yeah I agree, what i mean is surely the second logo will be better
than the first, and I'm more concerned about the player recruitment
thing.
Part of me does wonder if this whole beat up is related to the
article on here last week saying the wings had to go, so now the
'new logo' they are prattling on about is the one in my sig.
Agree and agree... The Sunday malcomson strikes again.
I didn't like how the article said "embarrasing" (which it isn't)
and I don't like "Nix"!
Agree and agree... The Sunday malcomson strikes again.
This is pissing me off no end. We have or had a great logo and the
FFA has got involved unnecessarily, I can't believe how much they
dictate what should be done. They should merely set standards and
guidelines and let clubs operate within these...
The Phoenix name is okay...but the logo was great.
Can't the FFA give us a break - we are behind the 8 ball
already so the team and management need to be able to get on with
it.
Also I'd buy a shirt or a jacket with a cool sheild on it but
I wouldn't buy an American, cartoon or sanisted logo, if I wanted
that I support a Baseball team or something.
People want to be part of a club, not a franchise. Thats why you need a badge or a shield, not a logo. Simple really!
Normo's coming home
Correct Hard News. The Sunday Times is about two weeks behind the
times. They are referring to the "wings up" concept one. If they
had been checking the YF web they would not talk such rubbish. poor
journalism.
Founder
Bugger... I liked this as a t-shirt.
...but if it's the official logo we'll get what Reebok give us.
Hard News2007-04-16 17:17:58
...but if it's the official logo we'll get what Reebok give us.
Hard News2007-04-16 17:17:58
How can anyone say the Phoenix logo looks like the AEK Athens one? Their one has two heads! If I saw someone walking down the street with two heads I'd be thinking "f**k me that's a bit different, what a freak, someone should put him in a circus" not "hey, that guy looks just like everyone else". After all, if we thought having one head or two heads were the same thing we wouldn't bother splitting up Siamese twins would we?
so theres no third option now in planning its the one we already
have?
Looks that way Christo.
well this thread was a waste of time then, some good venting tho