i think the wire just highlighted how hick it was!
They would have played at Yarrow though, Kingz did. Got spanked by the old Adelaide City Force.
The only team for me...(needs linking News)
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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While the ground was sh*te, it had nothing to do with the performance which was abject because of the players' (in)ability that night.
A more likely relationship would be the size of Palmy folk and the portions served up at their local boozers! That's the first time in my life i have waived away wedges and sour cream before i finished it - Nice one SAH!
A more likely relationship would be the size of Palmy folk and the portions served up at their local boozers! That's the first time in my life i have waived away wedges and sour cream before i finished it - Nice one SAH!
Did you ever get to the wedges under that sour cream ?
looked like an enormous white cow pat!
Kiwi Jambo2009-12-14 16:45:29
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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FMG is classic Palmy, I mean us locals are so happy to have a reason to go out. We don't care what it's like when you get there.... its a crappy old stadium!
Lets face it, you go to Palmy to visit people not for much else. (stock cars and university graduations perhaps)
best bits were : not having to listen to Dewhurst on the radio on the way home from Welly, getting given a cardboard box to put ya beers in, cheap beers, heaps of parking, and a quick trip home.
surely they could have taken the wire down for the game...
This.
Summit cans, in a box.
Brilliant.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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For a fiver... Value plus !
...is Adelaide City Force
They would have played at Yarrow though, Kingz did. Got spanked by the old Adelaide City Force.
The only team for me...(needs linking News)
...is Adelaide City Force
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Crikey some of you would complain if there's a fire and you'd complain if someone pissed on it to put it out
any excuse to moan it seems on here
Personally I had a great time, they had Hell pizza, $5.00 beer a good enough atmosphere in the crowd.Good night out after the game ,although i was hoping we'd score so we could have have got to do the avalance like they do in south American games charge down to the wire and back would've been a laugh (and possibly caused a few injuires) but a fun trip none the less.
it was like an away game for people who can't afford to travel to Aussie to watch the boys play there, well for me at least.
oh and they're Talking about doing it again (a game in manawatu) next season
We'd love to come back says the Phoenix
giddyup2009-12-14 17:23:06
any excuse to moan it seems on here
Personally I had a great time, they had Hell pizza, $5.00 beer a good enough atmosphere in the crowd.Good night out after the game ,although i was hoping we'd score so we could have have got to do the avalance like they do in south American games charge down to the wire and back would've been a laugh (and possibly caused a few injuires) but a fun trip none the less.
it was like an away game for people who can't afford to travel to Aussie to watch the boys play there, well for me at least.
oh and they're Talking about doing it again (a game in manawatu) next season
We'd love to come back says the Phoenix
giddyup2009-12-14 17:23:06
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I loved the road trip, was seriously concerned about breaking ankles standing on gappy rickety red benches and wasn't a huge fan of the game (funnily enough watching teh replay made me reasise how much I forgot some of the close calls).
Stadium wasn't amazing but meh, not the end of the world. Would have liked the wire to come down but again, wasn't that distracting.
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Owlcatraz is for sale; new fever investment?
I echo HN that it was a fun roadie and a good idea to do something new.
my main concern is that by playing home games away from teh ring of fire, we are jeopardising points that in our position we can't be giving away. I understand the idea of spreading the game/fan base, but the side had to play a virtual away game in front of a smallish crowd...not the best footballing environment to play one of the best sides in the league. For that reason I would question whether it should be done again next year.
THE GROUND IS OUT OF ACTION - IT COULDN'T BE PLAYED IN WELLINGTON!
I would suggest to you that this was part of a wider marketing strategy to promote the Phoenix by playing games away from Wellington, LIKE THEY DO IN PRE-SEASON. NOT JUST A MOVE BECAUSE THE GROUND WAS OUT OF ACTION.
My opinion, is THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE SIDE/PERFORMANCES.
Your use of capitals really added weight to your POINTLESS POST
....and his point might just have been that, strangely, the dates for the games in Palmy and Christchurch just happened to coincide with days when the ROF isn't available. I haven't seen anything, anywhere to suggest that the Nix are planning to play more "home" games outside Wellington.
I would suggest that if the Nix decide to take a home league game 'on the road' when there is no reason for them not to play it at the ROF, then your argument re the marketing strategy may have a bit more substance.
haha, thanks Jag
Jag and Aitken, just in case in between your posts you missed Tony P's view on continuing to take games away, which I believe brings us back to my point. Hope comments from the CEO adds some of that "substance" you were looking for:
"Mr Pignata said the door was open for Palmerston North to host the Phoenix again.
"Definitely, we hope to take games away and it's not too far from Wellington so hopefully people who were there for the first time on Saturday enjoyed it." "
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Positives? Yes well, the parking was indeed very good. The Nightflyer is a nice pub/cafe/resturant. Their "Massive" pizzas put Dominoes, Hells & Pizza Hut to shame!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Jag and Aitken, just in case in between your posts you missed Tony P's view on continuing to take games away, which I believe brings us back to my point. Hope comments from the CEO adds some of that�"substance" you were looking for:�
"Mr Pignata said the door was open for Palmerston North to host the Phoenix again.
"Definitely, we hope to take games away and it's not too far from Wellington so hopefully people who were there for the first time on Saturday enjoyed it." "
Oh dear. Certainly seems to. Hopefully, Tony P was just playing politics and making all the right noises. Dumb idea, imho.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Jag and Aitken, just in case in between your posts you missed Tony P's view on continuing to take games away, which I believe brings us back to my point. Hope comments from the CEO adds some of that "substance" you were looking for:
"Mr Pignata said the door was open for Palmerston North to host the Phoenix again.
"Definitely, we hope to take games away and it's not too far from Wellington so hopefully people who were there for the first time on Saturday enjoyed it." "
Oh dear. Certainly seems to. Hopefully, Tony P was just playing politics and making all the right noises. Dumb idea, imho.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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From a $$$ point of view I can't see how the club can justify PN.
6400 people take away kids and season ticket holders, multiply by $20....and you get takings of probably just under $100,000. ROF game you would expect close to 8000. Ticket prices are higher,$29 cheapest for adults. Again take off kids etc and you get a gate of around $200,000.
Even if i'm out by 30% it still is a big loss of revenue going to PN.
I did not go to PN but reading all these posts sounds like it was not a great day out for the Phoenix faithful. Did we make any new local fans?....possibly. But how many locals would be added to the wonderful group that already come down from Palmy for the games at the ROF.
Would Napier have been a better option? Lets just hope that next year there are no more pitch repairs needed.
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I've been sugesting for some time that this was as much a 'marketting' move as it was a case of being 'forced upon the poor old Phoenix" as we were told
if this continues there should be two types of season tickets
a- one with 'away' games included, and
b- one for just the RoF games - with an appropriate discount
having brought a season ticket for three years, i can do without this away game bollocks - and if it must continue I can do without having to pay for matches that i almost certainly won't attend
basically, i would rather see Wellington Phoenix play in Wellington
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hey some of us travel from Palmy and beyond every week... its not that big a drama to drive two hours
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From a $$$ point of view I can't see how the club can justify PN.
6400 people take away kids and season ticket holders, multiply by $20....and you get takings of probably just under $100,000. ROF game you would expect close to 8000. Ticket prices are higher,$29 cheapest for adults. Again take off kids etc and you get a gate of around $200,000.
Even if i'm out by 30% it still is a big loss of revenue going to PN.
I did not go to PN but reading all these posts sounds like it was not a great day out for the Phoenix faithful. Did we make any new local fans?....possibly. But how many locals would be added to the wonderful group that already come down from Palmy for the games at the ROF.
Would Napier have been a better option? Lets just hope that next year there are no more pitch repairs needed.
You know we belong together...
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One of my ex-colleagues was at the game next to you loonies. He was very impressed with the YF and is thinking about coming down for a (real) home game.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Would Napier have been a better option? Lets just hope that next year there are no more pitch repairs needed.
As Oska said, Palmy would have cost a fraction of what the stadium here costs, and I suspect NZ Cricket would have thought Napier was a worse option seeing as they have a cricket test on there.
Seriously though, what a bunch of rubbish in this. It was a great day, we had good fun at the game, the Speights Ale House were fantastic hosts, the beer was cheaper. If we'd won, 90% of this angst would be gone and we'll hear are people saying I wish I'd gone.
Driving around Palmy on the day the town was packed with people in Phoenix and Fever gear all smiling and happy, people at the pub before and after were smiling and happy, even those of us feeling violently ill at Cafe Cuba the next day were cheerful.
How about we transfer this angst to the more traditional post loss system of finding a player or a coach to scapegoat ?
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Surprised that took 3 minutes to post
Edit: For me it was Judas Smeltz's fault.
Junior822009-12-14 21:44:41
Edit: For me it was Judas Smeltz's fault.
Junior822009-12-14 21:44:41
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Nah! Just been looking at the Nix photo galleries and realised that none of the players have been wearing the lucky head bandage.
Major oversight.
Major oversight.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Should have just played the game at Cannons Creek stadium or what ever its called.
I believe its Trust Porirua Park. The only two down sides are it only seats 2000 max and theres no extra seating available, and its unsuitable for television (the two lights opposite the stand are on top of two big poles which are too close to the pitch, they would obscure the view too often when play entered the closest corners of the field)
otherwise it would be ok. Ive played there a few times under lights when wests had the friday night thing going before the central league, and ive watched some pretty good games up there also. makes for good viewing from the stand which can get you pretty high up
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Yeah its a fantastic venue went to see the 1st 15 rugby final, and the atmosphere was really good since we had the schools chanting vs each over.
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So the solution to being biffed off the stadium and people not liking Palmy is to play at a ground that holds 2000... great spot for pre-season games, not even close to an A-League venue.
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So the solution to being biffed off the stadium and people not liking Palmy is to play at a ground that holds 2000... great spot for pre-season games, not even close to an A-League venue.
Yeah the venue isn't appropriate for an A League game, I thought it held more people but pre season it could be ok.
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It is okay, they played Capital Selection, Miramar, Wests and Lower Hutt there this year.
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well, are you guys a bunch of whingers. WTF do you expect? Westpac
Stadium is one of the best in the country, so anything is a step down.
Considering what a dump the Showgrounds used to be, they've done a
reasonable job for the what is only GA seating. The Grandstand has a
great view.
I was there, and enjoyed myself. But the wind did ruin it, if it had been like a fine still day, the atmosphere would have been fantastic.
I agree about the fence, a total annoyance, but I guess since it's the middle of the speedway season, they were reluctant to take it down for just one week. In the rugby configuration (ie no fence), it's perfectly OK. The fence also made it hard to take good photos too. allstarnz2009-12-15 00:23:07
I was there, and enjoyed myself. But the wind did ruin it, if it had been like a fine still day, the atmosphere would have been fantastic.
I agree about the fence, a total annoyance, but I guess since it's the middle of the speedway season, they were reluctant to take it down for just one week. In the rugby configuration (ie no fence), it's perfectly OK. The fence also made it hard to take good photos too. allstarnz2009-12-15 00:23:07
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I'm hoping Christchurch will put on a better show. Any predictions for the Chch crowd? With a bit of marketing we could crack 10 000 but I doubt there'll be much marketing.
Question: a damn fine member of the fever (Arsenal, take a bow) sent down a few tickets. I plan to distribute these to friends who'd probably not buy a ticket and buy my own one. Can we all sit together? How'd they do that in Palmy? Suppose it won't nearly be a sell-out so we can just move to a spare area.
Question: a damn fine member of the fever (Arsenal, take a bow) sent down a few tickets. I plan to distribute these to friends who'd probably not buy a ticket and buy my own one. Can we all sit together? How'd they do that in Palmy? Suppose it won't nearly be a sell-out so we can just move to a spare area.
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From a $$$ point of view I can't see how the club can justify PN.
6400 people take away kids and season ticket holders, multiply by $20....and you get takings of probably just under $100,000. ROF game you would expect close to 8000. Ticket prices are higher,$29 cheapest for adults. Again take off kids etc and you get a gate of around $200,000.
Even if i'm out by 30% it still is a big loss of revenue going to PN.
I did not go to PN but reading all these posts sounds like it was not a great day out for the Phoenix faithful. Did we make any new local fans?....possibly. But how many locals would be added to the wonderful group that already come down from Palmy for the games at the ROF.
Would Napier have been a better option? Lets just hope that next year there are no more pitch repairs needed.
I would be surprised if the Phoenix lost more money at Palmerston North, you have not accounted for the drop in venue hire prices.
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I would be surprised if the Phoenix lost more money at Palmerston North, you have not accounted for the drop in venue hire prices.
Who cares about the venue hire costs. Tell us how many people outside of the massive road-train that travelled up for the game, eg the regulars to RoF, actually purchased a ticket.
We had a crowd of 6900, and I would say a good third of the people at that game would have driven up from Wellington.
The drop in the venue hire barely makes up for the fact that outside of the travelling masses, bugger all people bothered to show up.
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Venue was OK, quite enjoyed the change in scenery and the chanting "The Windmill is a Turbine!" was class.
May get slated for this next bit, but was a bit taken aback by the negativity and venom towards the Phoenix voiced by some of the people we were standing next too. We were at the back of the YF zone and there was a bunch of older guys who spent the whole game whinging and being really abusive towards our players. Granted, we did not play well, and I get as vocal and pissed off as the next Nix fan we we do dumb stuff but having some drunk yob yelling "Daniel you f&*king Brazilian P*ssy, you're a useless c*nt" and variations thereof at the top of his lungs got a bit grating when repeated for the 50th time. the irony was the guy yelling this stuff would then join in with the "We love you Phoenix" chants"...classic!
It got to the point where my wife, who is no shrinking violet, had enough and moved to a different part of the ground for the last 20 minutes, she just had enough. Sure be passionate, be vocal, be frustrated and voice it, but does it have to be so venonmous? Jesus, you are supposed to be spectating for enjoyment aren't you, what about supporting your team? Guess I will get told to harden up, but to my mind there should be some responsibility in not alienating and offending supporters of your team, a little bit of self restraint might help...
ps totally cool that someone one here has actually been to Owlcatraz, legend!
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...Sure be passionate, be vocal, be frustrated and voice it, but does it have to be so venonmous? Jesus, you are supposed to be spectating for enjoyment aren't you, what about supporting your team? Guess I will get told to harden up, but to my mind there should be some responsibility in not alienating and offending supporters of your team, a little bit of self restraint might help...
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Wonder if its the guys I was infront of last time I was at a Wellington game- was quite painful, I was cringing as they wouldn't stop abusing Lochhead and Brown.
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Were a couple of accents from a certain northern hemisphere archipelago perhaps involved? It might be them...
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Indeed there were in my case. Also heard something about it being much better 'at home'
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We were very close to that photo, and I heard the miserable whining gits too. They're a disgrace to football.
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are they in this?
Oi careful,I know those guys. Am with them every home game. Never once heard about it "being better back home" at all (and you know i hate that,i give steve-o sh*t on here for it constantly whenever he makes reference to "in scotland" 
). Yes,one guy has it in for daniel,but thats about all. Ive also suspect theyve been blamed for a lot of other sh*t on here in the past,which has never been true.
). Yes,one guy has it in for daniel,but thats about all. Ive also suspect theyve been blamed for a lot of other sh*t on here in the past,which has never been true. Sort it out.
Tegal2009-12-15 12:38:05Allegedly
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They, or some of them, didn't much like the megaphone either...I never knew that megaphones had sexual preferences. 
Anyway enuf said by me before this descends into a "Yes he did/no he didn't" slanging match
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