Phoenix all-time leading goalscorers
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Smeltzy about to be knocked off the top.
Shane Smeltz 21
Paul Ifill 21
Tim Brown 20
Chris Greenacre 16
Leo Bertos 7
Daniel 7
Dylan Macallister 7
Eugene Dadi 5
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
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Tim Payne would have been top if we had signed him as a 16 yo.
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I'm surprised at that table. Ifill, Greenacre and Brown really are our strikers..... No one else even gets within a cooey. I'm also surprised that D-Mac put 7 away and Dadi had 5. On how many games?
T-Payne wouldn't have needed to play. The table would have bowed to him and put him on top such is his awesomeness for a 16yo.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
If he was a central attacking midfielder, fair play, but when you are glued to a touchline....Grumpy old bastard alert
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
If he was a central attacking midfielder, fair play, but when you are glued to a touchline....
Agreed to an extent, but he is far from glued to the sideline. Usually adopts a slighty more central role (or at least should) when attack comes down opposite wing.
He has played around 70 games for us now, and one goal every 10 games is less than it should be.
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
Tim Brown is a kiwi.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I'm surprised at that table. Ifill, Greenacre and Brown really are our strikers..... No one else even gets within a cooey. I'm also surprised that D-Mac put 7 away and Dadi had 5. On how many games?
Macallister got 7 in 15 games, Dadi got 5 in 10 games.
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
Tim Brown is a kiwi.
Im well aware of this, comment was directed at the fact that Ifill will, imo, be top of the list before too long.
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Quick make him an honorary Wellingtonian (for life).
Pity he isn't Spanish.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
Tim Brown is a kiwi.
Nope. Tim Brown will.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I can see that Leo will take every 35m+ free kick and Tim will be shooting from halfway every time now.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
Tim Brown is a kiwi.
He is a pom.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
If he was a central attacking midfielder, fair play, but when you are glued to a touchline....
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Agreed to an extent, but he is far from glued to the sideline. Usually adopts a slighty more central role (or at least should) when attack comes down opposite wing.
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He has played around 70 games for us now, and one� goal every 10 games is less than it should be.
He runs down the touchline delivering most of our crosses. That at least cuts him out half the time. Plus he takes our set pieces,further limiting his goalscoring chances.
What you say doesn't make a lot of sense.
Allegedly
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
If he was a central attacking midfielder, fair play, but when you are glued to a touchline....
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Agreed to an extent, but he is far from glued to the sideline. Usually adopts a slighty more central role (or at least should) when attack comes down opposite wing.
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He has played around 70 games for us now, and one� goal every 10 games is less than it should be.
He runs down the touchline delivering most of our crosses. That at least cuts him out half the time. Plus he takes our set pieces,further limiting his goalscoring chances.
What you say doesn't make a lot of sense.
His and everyone elses!
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No idea how he is still taking them!
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Table highlights one of the weaknesses in Leos game IMHO. Poor return for an attacking midfielder
If he was a central attacking midfielder, fair play, but when you are glued to a touchline....
Agreed to an extent, but he is far from glued to the sideline. Usually adopts a slighty more central role (or at least should) when attack comes down opposite wing.
He has played around 70 games for us now, and one goal every 10 games is less than it should be.
He runs down the touchline delivering most of our crosses. That at least cuts him out half the time. Plus he takes our set pieces,further limiting his goalscoring chances.
What you say doesn't make a lot of sense.
Again I disagree, while I am not saying he should be a leading scorer, he certainly should be scoring more than he does. He gets a number of shooting oppotunities Nix website states he has had over 160 shots on goal in his career, less than half on target mind you, so that is only one goal for every 20 shots he is taking. Compare that to Ifills 20 goals from 180 shots on goal. I am not bagging what he does as a wde midfielder other than the fact he should be scoring more than he does.
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He has half the goal scoring success rate per shot than ifill. Got a better comparison than our leading goalscorer?
I also don't completely buy into that stat as ifills shots are more likely to be from better positions. But it at least gives a little insight if used correctly.
I also don't completely buy into that stat as ifills shots are more likely to be from better positions. But it at least gives a little insight if used correctly.
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If his shots are from such bad positions, perhaps he should not be taking them?
Even compare Daniel 5 Goals from 70 odd attempts.
The number of shots he takes indicates he gets in a scoring position, just his converssion rate is too low
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Daniel probably is a better comparison.
Maybe ricki will bench greenacre so he can dedicate his time to teaching leo shooting. Am sure he knows of a few awesome drills.
A better stat to judge him on however is assists.
Maybe ricki will bench greenacre so he can dedicate his time to teaching leo shooting. Am sure he knows of a few awesome drills.
A better stat to judge him on however is assists.
Allegedly
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So Brown scoring at roughly a goal every 4.5 matches?
That's so rubbish! Ricki should drop him!
That's so rubbish! Ricki should drop him!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Midfielders should be scoring every game. It is their main job to do so
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Smeltzy about to be knocked off the top.
Shane Smeltz 21
Paul Ifill 21
Tim Brown 20
Chris Greenacre 16
Leo Bertos 7
Daniel 7
Dylan Macallister 7
Eugene Dadi 5
Danny Vukovic 1
"Phoenix till they lose"
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With Leo, we knew when we signed him he wouldn't score many. In two years with Perth he managed one off his shin. When he has been central, he's shown he's a sh*t finisher (miss against Roar comes to mind when he was playing striker). No one really expects him to score, but he has consistantly been our best (if not one of our best) assist providers.
Any chance of an all time assists list Piney? I'd guess Leo, Lochhead and Daniel would be top three.
Any chance of an all time assists list Piney? I'd guess Leo, Lochhead and Daniel would be top three.
You know we belong together...
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Leo - 15
Ifill - 12
Daniel - 11
Lochhead - 8
Brown - 7
Manny - 7
Rojas - 7
Coveny - 5
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Midfielders should be scoring every game. It is their main job to do so
Hope your not into coaching.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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I can see the fact that he isn't a kiwi annoying certain people.
Tim Brown is a kiwi.
Nope. Tim Brown will.
I can't tell if you're trolling or playing this straight. Well played.
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Leo - 15
You're a star. Pretty sure at least 3 of Coveny's were penalties won using "Experience." Ifill - 12
Daniel - 11
Lochhead - 8
Brown - 7
Manny - 7
Rojas - 7
Coveny - 5
You know we belong together...
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rojas had seven assists in that time- jeez he was on fire. would have past leo by the end of this season.
And the fact ifill is up there as well just proves how amazingly important he is
And the fact ifill is up there as well just proves how amazingly important he is
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Horrific goalscoring record for both Daniel and Bertos considering how long they've been around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Here's a games per goal table including every Phoenix goal-scorer...
Name Games Goals Games per goal Smeltz 39 21 1.86 Dadi 10 5 2.00 Ifill 55 21 2.62 Fred 3 1 3.00 Macallister 22 7 3.14 Greenacre 63 16 3.94 Brown 92 20 4.60 Sanchez 5 1 5.00 Felipe 17 3 5.67 Aloisi 13 2 6.50 Rees 9 1 9.00 Rojas 21 2 10.50 Barbarouses 21 2 10.50 Bertos 76 7 10.86 Old 12 1 12.00 Elrich 13 1 13.00 Daniel 92 7 13.14 Ward 32 2 16.00 Vukovic 17 1 17.00 McKain 37 2 18.50 SigmUnd 70 3 23.33 Hearfield 70 3 23.33 Coveny 27 1 27.00 Lia 66 2 33.00 Dodd 36 1 36.00 Ferrante 43 1 43.00 Durante 82 1 82.00 Lochhead 91 1 91.00
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And here are all the players who have never scored (excluding 'keepers) and how many games they've played...
Name Games Muscat 75 Christie 26 Johnson 21 North 19 Caceres 19 O'Dor 13 Kwasnik 12 Diego 12 Pavlovic 11 G** 8 Brownlie 8 Smith 6 Toto 5 Elliott 4 Griffiths 4 Tsattalios 4 George 4 Cleberson 3 Mulligan 3 Musa 3 Chen 2 Draper 2 Downey 1 Lovemore 1
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Kind of makes you wonder why Durante bothers going up for corners - I wonder what the corners per goal number is ? Five corners per game (?) = 410 corners per goal.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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be great to see Manny's reaction when he finally scores!
hopefully at home, down our end!
p.s. excellent stats work LF1 (you set the bar)tigers2011-11-29 21:27:38
hopefully at home, down our end!
p.s. excellent stats work LF1 (you set the bar)tigers2011-11-29 21:27:38
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Horrific goalscoring record for both Daniel and Bertos considering how long they've been around.
Horrific
My word.
Three for me, and two for them.
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I'd forgotten how few games Aloisi managed for us.
You know we belong together...
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Caceres never scored?? My memory playing tricks...thought he'd got one as a sub...
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Sack Bertos and everyone below him
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