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Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 1)

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This thread has got interesting (only took 66 pages or so).

Junior822011-09-06 17:19:23

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Hard News wrote:
So.  The Phoenix five.  How about some theories.
 
Rob Morrison - Outed in Dom last week
Lloyd Morrison - Linked 6 months ago
Sam Morgan - Linked 6 months ago
The Chow brothers - Football oriented and the names have been rumoured as interested
 
Any other suggestions? 


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If this is correct Ricki really is showing a huge amount of loyalty.
 
Sam Morgan denied the original rumours (probably a link somewhere in this thread), could have come on board since I guess. Maybe the Todd family? I doubt Peter Jackson would be interested but you never know.
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Millenium City Football?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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ptyourmount wrote:

A source spoken to by NBR said one of the Phoenix five had already flown to Australia for discussions with the Football Federation of Australia.

 



Oh, good. Wait, what's this "buy the club"? I thought they were only offering to put money in to keep it afloat.

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Anyway, I want to call out Auckland Phoenix for the dumbest thing ever posted, which was just deleted - the claim that those of us who have been prepared to give Tezza the benefit of the doubt "have contributed to this whole mess".

This is great. I've brought the Nix down by posting on a webforum. I had no idea I had spooky powers like that. Can I also make Mr Not A Lawyer's head explode by posting about it? There's only one way to find out.

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Just out of curiosity is our season pass money secure or can the phoenix go under and leave us with nothing  (worst case scenario obviously) or is that controlled by the ffa ?? 
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Doloras wrote:
This is great. I've brought the Nix down by posting on a webforum. I had no idea I had spooky powers like that. Can I also make Mr Not A Lawyer's head explode by posting about it? There's only one way to find out.
 
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giddyup wrote:
Just out of curiosity is our season pass money secure or can the phoenix go under and leave us with nothing  (worst case scenario obviously) or is that controlled by the ffa ?? 
 
I'd say I'm 98% certain that this is not an issue.

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Hats off to Herbert for sticking around for so long
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giddyup wrote:
Just out of curiosity is our season pass money secure or can the phoenix go under and leave us with nothing  (worst case scenario obviously) or is that controlled by the ffa ?? 
 

Your membership dollars are secure. The way it works is that the Stadium holds the money and it will not be released to the Phoenix until a Bank guarantee for the entire funds is given. Only then will it be released.

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theprof wrote:

WE all know Terry is ion financial strife, we've all read/heard that he won't sell the team yet. The conjecture is all around the "other buyers" and sources that say they exist.

If Terry cared about the team more than his ego we would get the chance to end the conjecture and find out who was going to be funding our team this season.
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Tony P wrote:
giddyup wrote:
Just out of curiosity is our season pass money secure or can the phoenix go under and leave us with nothing  (worst case scenario obviously) or is that controlled by the ffa ?? 
 

Your membership dollars are secure. The way it works is that the Stadium holds the money and it will not be released to the Phoenix until a Bank guarantee for the entire funds is given. Only then will it be released.

Beauty, thanks for that. 
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By doing so dolares you are under estimating the value of the supporters and the yellow fever. This club exists on three variables:

1: the owner
2: the supporters
3: the players and coach

if any of the above do not exist then we have no club. You and others have followed like sheep an owner who for months it is clear is indeed doomed. Hence you have contributed to this messAucklandPhoenix2011-09-06 18:12:12

Auckland will rise once more

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By doing so dolares you are under estimating the value of the supporters and the yellow fever. This club exists on three variables:

1: the owner
2: the supporters
3: the players and coach

if any of the above do not exist then we have no club. You and others have followed like sheep an owner who for months it is clear is indeed doomed. Hence you have contributed to this mess


Supporters are crucial for every club to support their club well, chant, applause, buy tickets, buy merchandise etc. Not to all have the same uniform opinions about who the owner should be.

Basically, I don't think the situation with the ownership of the Phoenix would be any different if Dolares had not posted anything, or posted different opinions.
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By doing so dolares you are under estimating the value of the supporters and the yellow fever. This club exists on three variables:

1: the owner
2: the supporters
3: the players and coach

if any of the above do not exist then we have no club. You and others have followed like sheep an owner who for months it is clear is indeed doomed. Hence you have contributed to this mess

Disagree with your comments. How does supporting someone cause this?? I think Terry has earned the respect for what he has done. Going forward the final decision on the state of the Phoenix will not be decided by the fans, players or staff. FFA will make the final decision. Until then Terry is still the Chairman.

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Serepisos denies Herbert owed $100,000

LATEST: Wellington Phoenix coach Ricki Herbert is owed more than $100,000 by the Terry Serepisos-owned club and has engaged lawyers, according to a report today.

Former Supreme Court judge Bill Wilson has confirmed he was acting for Herbert, but would not give details about the work, according to the National Business Review today.

However, Serepisos denied the club owed Herbert $100,000 and refused to say whether it owed any money at all to the coach.

The property developer has been battling attempts to bankrupt him and his lawyers last week submitted a plan to the High Court for a trustee to sell most of his remaining property portfolio over about two years.

Serepisos has staunchly stood by his continued ownership of the Phoenix, where he says it is ''business as normal", and recently brushed aside concerns over late payments to his players, saying there was a one-day delay caused by an ''internal issue".

He is also adamant that a $100m loan arranged from Western Gulf Advisory, a Bahrain-based lender that has been accused of fleecing investors in Australia, would still come through.

It has been estimated that Mr Herbert is supposed to be paid about $200,000 a year for coaching the Phoenix.

It is understood five businessmen are positioning themselves to run the Phoenix should Serepisos fall, with Wellington City Council sports portfolio leader John Morrison telling The Dominion Post growing concern over Serepisos' financial position had led to the formulation of a back-up plan to ensure the survival of the club.

Herbert could not immediately be reached for comment this evening.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/5574530/Serepisos-denies-Herbert-owed-100-000C-Diddy2011-09-06 18:32:03

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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This is just getting rediculous now.

Sensationalism at its finest!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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To be fair, Mr Not A Lawyer is not the only member of this forum suffering under the delusion that if we all just wished and posted really hard, Terry would vanish in a cloud of foul-smelling smoke and new owners would buy us the A-League.

If I really thought what I posted here mattered to the future of the Nix, I would certainly do so sober.

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By doing so dolares you are under estimating the value of the supporters and the yellow fever. This club exists on three variables:

1: the owner
2: the supporters
3: the players and coach

if any of the above do not exist then we have no club. You and others have followed like sheep an owner who for months it is clear is indeed doomed. Hence you have contributed to this mess
Mr Queen's Counsel (not).  Are you a Nix member?  D is.  How many Nix games have you been to?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Hard News wrote:
Doloras wrote:
This is great. I've brought the Nix down by posting on a webforum. I had no idea I had spooky powers like that. Can I also make Mr Not A Lawyer's head explode by posting about it? There's only one way to find out.
 
2ndBest is about to propose to you.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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somebody told me Bob Jones was one of the 5 not sure how interested he is in football. I also heard Gareth Morgans name mentioned as well
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Well Bob would certainly be able to sort out pesky reporters!

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Doloras wrote:
Anyway, I want to call out Auckland Phoenix for the dumbest thing ever posted, which was just deleted - the claim that those of us who have been prepared to give Tezza the benefit of the doubt "have contributed to this whole mess".This is great. I've brought the Nix down by posting on a webforum. I had no idea I had spooky powers like that. Can I also make Mr Not A Lawyer's head explode by posting about it? There's only one way to find out.


Sorry but you're not in any position to tell people that things they have posted in this thread "are the dumbest thing" ever considering that every single issue related to the future of the club that you have commented on you have gotten wrong.

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Although he hasn't replied so maybe his head has exploded...

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Junior82 wrote:
Mr Queen's Counsel (not).  Are you a Nix member?  D is.  How many Nix games have you been to?


Jeez J82 your responses are as predictable as hers

personally I think certain yfites should stop lumping us all in together. I feel sorry for Terry and don't wish him to vanish. I'm just sick of the fact that any of us who said hey this more than likely has substance and who have supported the Dom Post's right to treat TS's financial dealings as news have been called Doom Mongerers for months....

The only thing I really want Terry to do at the mo is to stop publicly saying my loan is coming my loan is coming - how can anyone take him seriously when he appears as gullible as an ex govt employee currently sitting in a foreign prison cause her so called online love asked her to fetch a suitcase

I also note The Dom has given a lot of coverage to David Blackmore's mortgagee selloffs lately - maybe rosey glassed people shd be defending his rights too and bleating about it not being news - sheesh obviously the Doom Post has a vendetta about Wgtn property developers who don't pay their bills
stealthkiwi2011-09-06 18:54:11
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Junior82 wrote:
Well Bob would certainly be able to sort out pesky reporters!


I think Bob Jones denied it a while back didn't he??

I would certainly suspect Lloyd Morrison and Morgan would be involved - Morrison especially has a history of investing in Wgtn sport, diving, and waterpolo especially

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Junior82 wrote:
Mr Queen's Counsel (not).� Are you a Nix member?� D is.� How many Nix games have you been to?


I'm not defending AucklandPhoenix's views, but seriously? He is not allowed an opinion because he lives in Auckland? What the f**k? And I never knew that going to Phoenix games increased your intelligence and the value of your opinion. Perhaps if we publicised that a bit better then we might get a few more season ticket holders.
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stealthkiwi wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Mr Queen's Counsel (not).  Are you a Nix member?  D is.  How many Nix games have you been to?


Jeez J82 your responses are as predictables as hers

Are you related to Grandadi then?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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james dean wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Well Bob would certainly be able to sort out pesky reporters!


I think Bob Jones denied it a while back didn't he??

No no, it was caught on film when the reporter tracked him down while he was trout fishing.
 
Oh.  You mean being one of the Nix 5... sorry.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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SK, MT read AP's post rather than take mine out of context.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:
SK, MT read AP's post rather than take mine out of context.


I did read his post... and I knew you wd jump to the poor lasses defence yet again. I think AP maybe overstated - but I think ignorance as the ship goes down is still stupid ignorance
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Junior82 wrote:
SK, MT read AP's post rather than take mine out of context.


I read his post too. Which is why I explicitly said I wasn't defending his opinion.
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Oh. All good then. Carry on you two, don't mind me.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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our coach has engaged lawyers to claw back unpaid wages from our owner - I think we have more important things to worry about

Normo's coming home

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Colvinator wrote:
Supporters are crucial for every club to support their club well, chant, applause, buy tickets, buy merchandise etc. Not to all have the same uniform opinions about who the owner should be.

Basically, I don't think the situation with the ownership of the Phoenix would be any different if Dolares (/insert name) had not posted anything, or posted different opinions.
^this.

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Feverish wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
Supporters are crucial for every club to support their club well, chant, applause, buy tickets, buy merchandise etc. Not to all have the same uniform opinions about who the owner should be. Basically, I don't think the situation with the ownership of the Phoenix would be any different if Dolares (/insert name)�had not posted anything, or posted different opinions.

^this.

personally I think certain yfites should stop lumping us all in together.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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I think its time for Terry to step down while he can do so honorably.

If he truly cares for the club he will step down soon - giving the new owners enough time to complete the takeover. Otherwise this season will be a complete disaster (Knightesque) and may compromise the future viability of the club.

We'll see what Terry cares about within the next couple of weeks.

His ego

or

The Wellington Phoenix

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I think it is pretty obvious it'll be his ego. It is Terry remember.

You'll never beat The Salmon!

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