Patrick said Welnix would speak today.... Obviously he was talking shark.
What do I gain by spouting shark on here? Nothing.
I was only joking mate!
If someone can articulate your desires,
I'll give you credence.
A fan is a fan.
Patrick said Welnix would speak today.... Obviously he was talking shark.
What do I gain by spouting shark on here? Nothing.
I was only joking mate!
It's sensitive times, Newcastle, not joking or my balls my word time
can other clubs approach players from December some time? Better have a new licence of some sort in place by then
Founder
The sooner the better - if 4 years is on the table we have to take it.
The way the FFA is going there'll be another Crawford report and the board will be arsenaled... here's hoping - it wouldn't be the first time!
It can take up till 4 to 6 months or even a year to have the application approved for the extension licence. I know this as Welnix came out before and said so last year (When they hoped for a 10 year licence).
I think next weeks meeting with the fans will be just piss blowing in the wind.
Mr Positive
The difference is that ten years was a new negotiation but the provision for four years is apparently in the current one.
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
To be fair, just because you think the owners might pull out (or the FFA might force the issue) doesn't mean you don't support the team.
I think we all do, but it would be nice to have some certainty about what is happening in the immediate future. It sounds like the Welnix via their membership evening and interviews next week will provide their thoughts on matters.
To be fair, just because you think the owners might pull out (or the FFA might force the issue) doesn't mean you don't support the team.
I think we all do, but it would be nice to have some certainty about what is happening in the immediate future. It sounds like the Welnix via their membership evening and interviews next week will provide their thoughts on matters.
I think we really need something out in the public, but I agree.
A fan is a fan.
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
To be fair, all signs point to doom.
a.haak
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
Because there are a few females online as part of the fever and the hundreds of guys here think they may have a chance of getting lucky
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blog/2015/11/04/logistics-team-southern-sydney
Article about the issues with a south Sydney team. Basically says that only a Gong-based club would work, but of course that's not what has been bandied about. A Sutherland team isn't a great idea.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Patrick said Welnix would speak today.... Obviously he was talking shark.
What do I gain by spouting shark on here? Nothing.
I was only joking mate!
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
Not saying we should give up, but we need a business version of Kenny Cunningham to score in extra time.
I'd take a Jason Hicks or a Tyler Boyd as well...
Does it seem like NZF is hoping the ASBP is going to become a pro-competition if it is televised?
Not saying we should give up, but we need a business version of Kenny Cunningham to score in extra time.
I'd take a Jason Hicks or a Tyler Boyd as well...
Not saying we should give up, but we need a business version of Kenny Cunningham to score in extra time.
I'd take a Jason Hicks or a Tyler Boyd as well...
If it worked even a Paladino, mate!!
Not saying we should give up, but we need a business version of Kenny Cunningham to score in extra time.
I'd take a Jason Hicks or a Tyler Boyd as well...
Extra time you say?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
^^^^
Does that satisfy you, angst-buckets?
Light drinks wouldn't satisfy me. Sounds very ominous if they are only putting on low alcohol beer or one can per person. If they were having an open bar thanking everyone for their support and keeping the nix alive, I would be very optimistic
When I see caviar and champagne I will know it's in the bag :-b
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
What are you getting at?
Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?
I think the club is fudgeed but I'll be at the last game, whether that's in 6 months, 4 years or 10, or longer because I love my club irrespective of how gloom it may look. are you not a fan of that attitude or something?
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
What are you getting at?
Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?
Well, they shouldn't be hanging around here trying to drag down those of us who are still fighting, anyway. Giving up is catching.
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
What are you getting at?
Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?
Well, they shouldn't be hanging around here trying to drag down those of us who are still fighting, anyway. Giving up is catching.
Yea we don't need the supporters who think the club might be fudgeed. We will fill the stadium on our own right? Right guys? Guys............
Depends on what you mean by giving up of course. If people are posting here depressed about what they think might happen but buy a membership or go to games, or donate to the Nix givealittle (or all 3) then they are good to me.
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
What are you getting at?
Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?
Well, they shouldn't be hanging around here trying to drag down those of us who are still fighting, anyway. Giving up is catching.
Some understandably pessimistic comments aside there is plenty of tangible proof that people aren't just giving up. Frankly I am gobsmacked that since it was announced we were basically being chucked out of the league some 400-odd people have gone and paid for memberships AND $10k has been donated for a membership scheme. Under the circumstances his is illogical, crazy even.
Every time I feel gloomy (as I do today) about this whole fudgeed up affair I think about those figures and realise how much we really love this club and how much we are willing to make stupid, irrational, expensive gestures to help keep it alive. It seems very unlikely but if Welnix are vacillating over their final decision then maybe, just maybe our example will stir a similar determination in them to take a risk, fight to keep the Phoenix alive and press on into a better and brighter future.
Even the most die hard fans that think we are fudgeed and express so on here are probably doing it because they care, they are not getting off on seeing the club and its fans screwed over by a senile old Twit and some smart arse squatter from the NRL.
Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?
What are you getting at?
Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?
Well, they shouldn't be hanging around here trying to drag down those of us who are still fighting, anyway. Giving up is catching.
We are all passion\ate here because we care about the Nix. This may mean telling other people off. Regardless of whether they think the sky has fallen and the club has already all gone to hell in a handbasket (as some people pretty much said), or if they think that after all there will be a licence extension and meaningful path forward for the club (and that for example is my optimistic view). I think we are all big enough to allow others to express their view, even if their idea stinks.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Rob Morrison fears New Zealand Football (NZF) won't lift a hand to save the Wellington Phoenix.
The Welnix and Phoenix chairman has not spoken publicly since Football Federation Australia (FFA) denied his request for a 10-year extension to the club's A-League licence.
Morrison wouldn't address the licence or FFA on Saturday, but did want to state the case for why Wellington and New Zealand should want the Phoenix to avoid extinction.
The Wellington one is pure economics. Welnix want to help fund a high-performance unit and English-language school in the city, but won't without a long-term A-League licence.
But the most emotive reason Welnix want to hang around is to save football in New Zealand.
"Personally, I really don't think the penny has dropped at New Zealand Football, as to how critical maintaining the Phoenix is. If we lose the Nix, football in this country goes back years," Morrison said.
"You've had millions of dollars in private funding go into football, via the Phoenix. There hasn't been a bigger single infusion of funding into a football team, as far as I'm aware, than what we've seen privately go into the Phoenix.
"I think in the last 18 months, 27 or 28 players have represented New Zealand, from under-17 level through to senior level, from the Phoenix club. There is not a club in New Zealand that even gets into double figures."
Morrison said the Wellington City Council, Westpac Stadium and the Phoenix's sponsors had been magnificent. The moral support of Yellow Fever and the nine other A-League clubs has been appreciated also.
But a pathway from the junior ranks to professional football now exists in this country because of the Phoenix, its two academies and extensive youth and reserve-team playing programmes.
"It's critical that New Zealand Football step up. We've heard plenty of words, but we need to see some actions as well," said Morrison.
"For us to stay around, we need to understand that other people recognise it's important. What I've consistently said is Welnix is not the beneficiary of this and we're not. Wellington is, football is increasingly, and so what we want to see is the people that are the beneficiaries actually standing up and saying: OK we need to be vocal about supporting this, but we also need to put in place some actionable things. It's quite critical.
"New Zealand needs to change its thinking around how vital the Phoenix are to the development of players and they need to change their view on the high performance pathway and the fact that the Phoenix is critical to the development of high performance football.
"I know that High Performance Sport [New Zealand] have told them that."
Morrison did not sound like a man about to wind up a business and tell everyone they were out of jobs, or academies players that they'd need to further their development overseas. Particularly when he was on the subject of a high-performance unit and language school.
Done in conjunction with the Wellington council, the unit would be up and running within "three or four years."
Too many national bodies, and athletes, opted to base themselves in Auckland now. Welnix want to halt that "drift north" and felt this was a way.
The other strand is the school. The Phoenix's attempts to get foreign players into their Auckland and Wellington academies have shown there is a demand for English-language training too, which the club have been unable to provide.
In general, it's an industry Morrison said Wellington had not embraced.
"We don't have a single school in the top-20 in New Zealand, in terms of foreign language students, and it's a huge industry now. Foreign language education is our fifth or sixth-biggest export industry now and Wellington's massively under-represented."
Pro football is like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors. -- Frank Gifford
Morrison did not sound like a man about to wind up a business and tell everyone they were out of jobs, or academies players that they'd need to further their development overseas.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
We love you Wellnix we do, we love you Wellnix we do....
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Ok so Tim Brown haters and those who didn't think a significant duty of care lay with NZ football, what say you in response to the bosses comments?
Who is the squatter here? Didn't see Rob mentioning $1000,000 being pumped into the Nix by NZ football.
The only mention of spending recently has been $170,000 by NZ football into a frivolous court case.
First of all this IS encouraging to hear that Welnix are still thinking about long-term investment in Wgtn (and the club).
BUT this still does not nullify:
So, carry on with the angsting.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
First of all this IS encouraging to hear that Welnix are still thinking about long-term investment in Wgtn (and the club).
BUT this still does not nullify:
So, carry on with the angsting.
You big ol' grumpy grumps.
Ok so Tim Brown haters and those who didn't think a significant duty of care lay with NZ football, what say you in response to the bosses comments?
Who is the squatter here? Didn't see Rob mentioning $1000,000 being pumped into the Nix by NZ football.
The only mention of spending recently has been $170,000 by NZ football into a frivolous court case.
But...
New Zealand head into next Friday's friendly against Oman in Muscat having played just four internationals over the past 12 months...
The biggest hurdle to getting the national side together on a regular basis is funding, an issue Martin says he is trying to address with various stakeholders, including Sport New Zealand.
But he insists it is no overnight fix.
Ok so Tim Brown haters and those who didn't think a significant duty of care lay with NZ football, what say you in response to the bosses comments?
Who is the squatter here? Didn't see Rob mentioning $1000,000 being pumped into the Nix by NZ football.
The only mention of spending recently has been $170,000 by NZ football into a frivolous court case.
But...
New Zealand head into next Friday's friendly against Oman in Muscat having played just four internationals over the past 12 months...
The biggest hurdle to getting the national side together on a regular basis is funding, an issue Martin says he is trying to address with various stakeholders, including Sport New Zealand.
But he insists it is no overnight fix.
Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn
If NZF were seen to be backing Welnix to a substantial degree that could give the Okkers more ammo for dumping the Nix (with their world view being the way it is).
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
