Wellington Phoenix Men

Phoenix to play in Auckland, Christchurch

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well, I for one (and I may be the only one) am OK with the Phoenix playing a game out of town (but probably no more than one given the league is now not being expanded and there will only be 10 or 11 home games in total). The Cantabs delivered a good crowd pre-season last year and I reckon its worth testing the AUckland market.

I think it could be a positive initiative for the exposure of the Phoenix nationally, for the profile of football outside Wellington, for merchandising etc, it gives the Fever the chance to go on tour en masse - we could get a helluva crowd to Auckland or Chch for $59 fares.
 
And on top of that, if the league is expanded to ten sides in 2009 and we are playing as many as 14 home games, i think we would need to spread a couple of games around the country to avoid any fan fatigue at home (not amongst the YF hardcore, but the general Wellington sports fan).
 
Whatever happens, it should be built into the price of our season tickets though.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I feel a poll coming on...
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
thats a good idea - Feverish, we need a poll on front page on this one
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cosimo wrote:

why don't you give him a call? actually, his number should be on the front page of this site, next to his address - that way people can ask him to go to the movies with them or borrow some of his clothes
 
I think I saw his profile on NZ Dating once.  You could try to catch him there. 
 
Search for someone who likes long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners, and bankrolling football clubs.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

DLB will try and vote multiple times
I like tautologies because I like them.
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VimFuego wrote:
Cosimo wrote:

why don't you give him a call? actually, his number should be on the front page of this site, next to his address - that way people can ask him to go to the movies with them or borrow some of his clothes
 
I think I saw his profile on NZ Dating once.  You could try to catch him there. 
 
Search for someone who likes long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners, and bankrolling football clubs.


sounds like my perfect woman
I like tautologies because I like them.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i just remembered i know how to set up polls! ill try now
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cosimo wrote:

DLB will try and vote multiple times
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Not tonight he won't, he'll be at training...  which I'm not.

[QUOTE=Marius Lacatus]i just remembered i know how to set up polls! ill try now


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Hard News2008-03-12 20:32:44

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
only had one picture on my lap top sorry. im hiding from feverish now
 
currently, 100% in favour - go for it Tony!
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Marius Lacatus wrote:

Well, I for one (and I may be the only one) am OK with the Phoenix playing a game out of town (but probably no more than one given the league is now not being expanded and there will only be 10 or 11 home games in total). The Cantabs delivered a good crowd pre-season last year and I reckon its worth testing the AUckland market.

I think it could be a positive initiative for the exposure of the Phoenix nationally, for the profile of football outside Wellington, for merchandising etc, it gives the Fever the chance to go on tour en masse - we could get a helluva crowd to Auckland or Chch for $59 fares.
 
And on top of that, if the league is expanded to ten sides in 2009 and we are playing as many as 14 home games, i think we would need to spread a couple of games around the country to avoid any fan fatigue at home (not amongst the YF hardcore, but the general Wellington sports fan).
 
Whatever happens, it should be built into the price of our season tickets though.
 
14 home games is bugger all, surely? Fan fatigue? If it only takes 14 home games to generate fan fatigue, then the future is not bright. And if fan fatigue is the case for travelling, where is the "helluva crowd" to go on tour going to come from?
 
And as for the costs.... $59 fares, if you're lucky - fare prices are demand-based and the $59 slot will go very quickly if that many are going to travel. But anyway, say you get them and it's $118. Travel to and from Auckland airport will cost as much again, Christchurch would be less but still not free. If it's an evening game, you're looking at accommodation and disbursements. So, what are we looking at, at least $350 of additional costs for a game that should be in Wellington. Blx to that - play the games in Wellington!
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
only had one picture on my lap top sorry. im hiding from feverish now
 
currently, 100% in favour - go for it Tony!


Vote again lads.  It needed a reload.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SiNZ wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:

Well, I for one (and I may be the only one) am OK with the Phoenix playing a game out of town (but probably no more than one given the league is now not being expanded and there will only be 10 or 11 home games in total). The Cantabs delivered a good crowd pre-season last year and I reckon its worth testing the AUckland market.

I think it could be a positive initiative for the exposure of the Phoenix nationally, for the profile of football outside Wellington, for merchandising etc, it gives the Fever the chance to go on tour en masse - we could get a helluva crowd to Auckland or Chch for $59 fares.
 
And on top of that, if the league is expanded to ten sides in 2009 and we are playing as many as 14 home games, i think we would need to spread a couple of games around the country to avoid any fan fatigue at home (not amongst the YF hardcore, but the general Wellington sports fan).
 
Whatever happens, it should be built into the price of our season tickets though.
 
14 home games is bugger all, surely? Fan fatigue? If it only takes 14 home games to generate fan fatigue, then the future is not bright. And if fan fatigue is the case for travelling, where is the "helluva crowd" to go on tour going to come from?
 
And as for the costs.... $59 fares, if you're lucky - fare prices are demand-based and the $59 slot will go very quickly if that many are going to travel. But anyway, say you get them and it's $118. Travel to and from Auckland airport will cost as much again, Christchurch would be less but still not free. If it's an evening game, you're looking at accommodation and disbursements. So, what are we looking at, at least $350 of additional costs for a game that should be in Wellington. Blx to that - play the games in Wellington!
 
$350 hahaha. Its way cheaper to go to a game in Auckland. For a start you drive back after the game, that also saves you a bundle on booze as you cant drink and drive.

A dog with a bone :)

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think14 games will stretch our market. This is not the UK. This is not Argentina. Football is not life nor religion - unfortunately. And we are not used to following any sport, football included, for 27 or 28 rounds. I am hugely optimistic about the future of football and the Phoenix. Wellington has a strong football community and a game sports public, but we are still building the Phoenix into our city fabric.
 
For similar reasons I am also not a fan of the FFA expanding the season too quickly. The Australasian football market is still young and I think the game is better served for the meantime by a relatively compact and more intensively marketed season.
 
And even if we accept the $350 figure, that is far cheaper than the $1350 you are looking at for a trip to sydney or melbourne. plus, feverish blows at least $200 at the bar at the backbencher - throw in a kebab and a cab home and he might as well be flying to Chch, chasing Swedish tourists at a backpackers and sneaking a bottle of JDs into QE2.
Marius Lacatus2008-03-12 20:53:17
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SiNZ wrote:
........And as for the costs.... $59 fares, if you're lucky - fare prices are demand-based and the $59 slot will go very quickly if that many are going to travel. But anyway, say you get them and it's $118. Travel to and from Auckland airport will cost as much again, Christchurch would be less but still not free. If it's an evening game, you're looking at accommodation and disbursements. So, what are we looking at, at least $350 of additional costs for a game that should be in Wellington. Blx to that - play the games in Wellington!


I agree that the games should be in Wellington.

I would point out that some of us did actually fork out that kind of dosh on a regular basis to get to games last season 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Marius Lacatus wrote:
I think14 games will stretch our market. This is not the UK. This is not Argentina. Football is not life nor religion - unfortunately. And we are not used to following any sport, football included, for 27 or 28 rounds. I am hugely optimistic about the future of football and the Phoenix. Wellington has a strong football community and a game sports public, but we are still building the Phoenix into our city fabric.
 
For similar reasons I am also not a fan of the FFA expanding the season too quickly. The Australasian football market is still young and I think the game is better served for the meantime by a relatively compact and more intensively marketed season.
 
And even if we accept the $350 figure, that is far cheaper than the $1350 you are looking at for a trip to sydney or melbourne. plus, feverish blows at least $200 at the bar at the backbencher - throw in a kebab and a cab home and he might as well be flying to Chch, chasing Swedish tourists at a backpackers and sneaking a bottle of JDs into QE2.
 
if you can guarantee the Swedes then I am on your side

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the polls pretty even

too many out of towners on here. With the expansion plans delayed I'll be very angry if a game is moved from wellington
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Great pic of the Croat Club btw. Too bad it couldn't include the statue of some naked, presumably famous Croat.

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chocnut wrote:
the polls pretty even

too many out of towners on here. With the expansion plans delayed I'll be very angry if a game is moved from wellington
 
yeh, surprising  - damn, democracy is a drag
 
I'd be gutted if we lost a home match!!
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tigers wrote:
chocnut wrote:
the polls pretty even

too many out of towners on here. With the expansion plans delayed I'll be very angry if a game is moved from wellington
 
yeh, surprising  - damn, democracy is a drag
 
I'd be gutted if we lost a home match!!

Its the double negative type question, i almost pushed no thinking that i didn't want them to play away. So not so much democracy as badly worded.
sloth2008-03-12 22:52:51
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think you are on to something there sloth
 
I came up with a slogan "vote no now!"  - then it occured to me that wasn't exactly going to help
 
 
 
So here's the latest slogan ...
"Vote yes to say no!"
 
 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just edit the poll and take away the offending option, but be careful
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
YF Poll wrote:
Do you object to the Phoenix playing one of its home games outside Wellington this season ?
 
What's so confusing about that?

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
YF Poll wrote:
Do you object to the Phoenix playing one of its home games outside Wellington this season ?
 
What's so confusing about that?

Never said it was confusing
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Actually, I thought the same thing, then I realised it was Marius and it made sense...

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
News.  You should change the poll to:
 
SHould tje Oly-Whites (and girls) go to Beijing?
 
Yes
No
 
This AKL CHC WLG sh*t can wait.
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Stevo wrote:
News.  You should change the poll to:
 
SHould tje Oly-Whites (and girls) go to Beijing?
 
Yes
No
 
This AKL CHC WLG sh*t can wait.

you mean
Do you object to the Oly-Whites (and girls) go to Beijing?
then half of us would push yes when we mean no

or
Do you not object to the Oly-Whites (and girls)not going to Beijing?


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Confusing would have been

Have you stopped supporting the Phoenix playing home games away?

Yes

No
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Or

Have you not stopped supporting the Phoenix not playing home games away?

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can understand where you Wellington dudes are coming from, I think I'd be annoyed if my season ticket would be cut down. A trial should be done, if we get an awesome turnout, then for sure, keep them as a once a year thing, cause sh*t at the Auckland game i'll be there, this season we're gonna be coming down for as many games as possible.
But yeah it is a Wellington club etc etc
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

is this not brilliant?

you guys were on fire last night,  first good laugh of the morning
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
YF Poll wrote:
Do you object to the Phoenix playing one of its home games outside Wellington this season ?
 
What's so confusing about that?
 
ha ha - i must confess (given my own stated opinions on this matter) to a touch of manipulation there - who wants to be "objectionable"?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

would you prefer that the Phoenix play in either Wellington rather/instead of other cities aswell as in Wellington, or exclusively the first option?

yes

no
I like tautologies because I like them.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I should work for the IRD
I like tautologies because I like them.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
YF Poll wrote:
Do you object to the Phoenix playing one of its home games outside Wellington this season ?
 
What's so confusing about that?
There should have been a maybe option, or a good old fashioned IF,THEN,ELSE clause.
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