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Phoenix Transfer - speculation

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Greek-Boi wrote:

Everybodys favourite George has scored 31 in 32 for his new club. He was a class act



Ooooh... a comedy Wikipedia edit.  Hillarious.
 
All "Belters" I bet!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it says in that article that jonas salley has left adelaide too? where has he gone?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sebsational wrote:
it says in that article that jonas salley has left adelaide too? where has he gone?


Nowhere atm, apparently some chinese club wants in on him.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How about Perth's Amaral? Is he signing for them again next season? That guy is absolute class. I was really impressed with his commitment to their team.
 
Injury and age are unfortunate factors, but a fit Amaral would be brilliant for us.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
True alas. Amaral and Juninho have been the two players I've most enjoyed watching the last two years, but you'd have to say they were both failed signings.
 
Mind you, there always a risk with any player (Lia, Foxe, etc).
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
gete Petrovski in. He's cant agree with CCm and the Planes are sniffing

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petrovski, don't want him, don't need him.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petrovski is a c**t.

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
Petrovski is a c**t.
 
 I second that.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
all you fellas (this includes HN) who wouldn't sign a player cos they cant see themselves being best friends with them, need to get real.

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
OK maybe it is judgemental, but I always have this feeling that guys who are obvious arseholes on the pitch are probably the same off it, and therefore, sooner or later, a potential threat to team stability.
 
 
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
all you fellas (this includes HN) who wouldn't sign a player cos they cant see themselves being best friends with them, need to get real.


He's a pratt who appears to have a bad attitude.  No, I wouldn't want to be friends with him and I doubt any of the Phoenix players would either.  And because of that he'd be a disruptive, Kosmina-esque, nuisance.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree with Feverish. If he was playing for us and scoring goals, none of you would give a hoot what he was like. I've even read posts saying that people would boo Smeltz next year... but he was alright though this year when playing for us right?

I'd sign him. A bit of mongrel, wont take a backwards step, strong and proven.

People also thought that Ahmad El**ch was a c**t too because he came across as one on the pitch until someone filled us in and said he was a top rooster off the pitch.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't know Petrovski so my comments are not specific to him.
 
When we recruit we need to sign players who will fit in with the team culture. That doesn't mean they all have to be clones - teams need characters and will have all sorts of personalities - what is does mean is that the players we sign have to behave consistent with the team's values.
 
I've seen many times when staff, players etc have been recruited because they are "high performers"  but they come with baggage. Invariably that baggage results in a train wreck of some form or other (e.g. Gao).
 
I have no idea if Petrovski has baggage what I would want to understand is why a team that finished higher than us in the league is letting him go / wouldn't give him a 2 year deal.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
Petrovski is a c**t.
 
I have met Sash many times and he is one of the nicest guys you could meet. He plays football hard which does not make him a c**t. 
 
PS: Before you jump to conclusions we are not signing him.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tony P wrote:
For the record yes we are keeping names quiet who we are chasing. I learnt things after the Joel Porter saga. We have 3 to 4 quality strikers that we are looking at. Signings will happen and will be announced when i get their ink on paper. It does take time and just because there are no announcements does not mean we are sitting on our hands.
 
In regards to Fred he is a DC United player. His season finishes in October and if we can get him then for good or as a guest player great but we are not holding our breath and need to move forward and sign players who will be here for the start of the season.
 
Over to you guys.
 
Thanks for the communication Tony P - the effort you make coming online now and then is appreciated.  Best of luck to you and Ricki in the coming weeks/months with the recruitment drive.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tony are these players at Porter/Smeltz quality or do they have "potential" to be at that quality?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Better preferably
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
Skoko would be a major signing!
 
 


He's the ex-Rangers chap?
Don't think he was ever in Glasgow loyalgunner.  He started his professional career at Hajduk Split, spending several years there.  He then moved to Racing Club Genk in Belgium for several years, where he captained the side to the championship.  He then played in Turkey before moving to the EPL in England (Wigan Athletic and Stoke City), and finally, completing the circle, back to Hajduk.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
axmfc wrote:
loyalgunner wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
Skoko would be a major signing!
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He's the ex-Rangers chap?


Don't think he was ever in Glasgow loyalgunner.� He started his professional career at Hajduk Split, spending several years there.� He then moved to Racing Club Genk in Belgium for several years, where he captained the side to the championship.� He then played in Turkey before moving�to the EPL in England (Wigan Athletic and Stoke City),�and finally, completing the circle, back to Hajduk.




Skoko has had a very good season for Hajduk, is probably one of their best players at the moment.
Think he's definitely one of the guys who could be lured to the A-league, although I suspect the Australian clubs would have a better chance of getting him.


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Another guy from HNL:

Zelimir Terkesel grapadura2009-01-31 21:36:25
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Another guy from HNL:

Zelimir Terkes
 
You're coming up with some good names el grapadura (although from Wikipedia Terkes looks to still be in his prime).  You should talk to Tony P about becoming the scout for the region.
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el grapadura wrote:
axmfc wrote:
loyalgunner wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
Skoko would be a major signing!
 

 
He's the ex-Rangers chap?


Don't think he was ever in Glasgow loyalgunner.  He started his professional career at Hajduk Split, spending several years there.  He then moved to Racing Club Genk in Belgium for several years, where he captained the side to the championship.  He then played in Turkey before moving to the EPL in England (Wigan Athletic and Stoke City), and finally, completing the circle, back to Hajduk.




Skoko has had a very good season for Hajduk, is probably one of their best players at the moment.
Think he's definitely one of the guys who could be lured to the A-league, although I suspect the Australian clubs would have a better chance of getting him.


 
el grapadura, I think I read before the start of the current  British/European season that Skoko had been considering as one of his options returning to Oz.
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axmfc wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Another guy from HNL: Zelimir Terkes

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You're coming up with some good names el grapadura (although from Wikipedia Terkes looks to still be in his prime).� You should talk to Tony P about becoming the scout for the region.


The Wikipedia page hasn't been updated to include stats from this season, which aren't that great: 3 goals in 15 games. This may look bad for a forward, but he's playing for a terrible team that'll surely be relegated from 1. HNL at the end of the season (NK Zadar).

He's still relatively young, having just turned 28. But if he wasn't picked up last season by a bigger club in Croatia when he was the top scorer in the league (although Zadar was probably trying to get too much cash out of any potential deals which also played its part), he's unlikely to get any great offers at the end of this season. Dinamo or more likely Hajduk might look to get him on the cheap at the end of the season, but don't think he'd be an unattainable target at this stage. But difficult, yes.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tony are these players at Porter/Smeltz quality or do they have "potential" to be at that quality?


Never know until they start playing. Not many people expected Smeltz to go as well as he went.

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
Tony are these players at Porter/Smeltz quality or do they have "potential" to be at that quality?


Never know until they start playing. Not many people expected Smeltz to go as well as he went.


so we've got some long months playing guessing games on even less info than last season




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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
martinb wrote:
valeo wrote:
Tony are these players at Porter/Smeltz quality or do they have "potential" to be at that quality?


Never know until they start playing. Not many people expected Smeltz to go as well as he went.


so we've got some long months playing guessing games on even less info than last season

And thats probably the best way to be. Tony P said he learned lessons from the Porter saga which some people in this world may not have (including the majority of us supporters asking for snippets)
I'd also doubt that he'd comment on the class of any potential signings, cause it only takes one agent to do some research, discover this forum and read comments from the CEO that reads like 'yeah we're chasing a guy but he may not be as good as Smeltz' for the agent to tell his player not to bother.

The less said on player transfers, the better from the king ding-a-ling
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe Phoenix should try for Killen? He has just gone on loan to Norwich in England and is basically not doing a whole lot. NO chance of getting in the Celtic team, EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thats quite funny I think. 2 weeks ago, he said adamant he wasn't leaving Celtic and while he's not technically leaving Celtic, its as good as.

While we're not after him, if it were the case, would we want someone injury plagued like him?
Agent 472009-02-01 17:38:35
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Steve-O wrote:
Maybe Phoenix should try for Killen? He has just gone on loan to Norwich in England and is basically not doing a whole lot. NO chance of getting in the Celtic team, EVER.


He'd be earning more in Norwich's reserve team than we'd be able to afford to pay himJag2009-02-01 18:44:21

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
Petrovski is a c**t.
 
but he knows how to score goals...who else can do that on a regular basis atm ;)
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
all you fellas (this includes HN) who wouldn't sign a player cos they cant see themselves being best friends with them, need to get real.
 
i totally agree with feverish on this one ;)
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yup, being a twat is a pre-requisite of some quite useful footballers.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's not about being friends with players , it's about building a club we can be proud of and Petrovski and co's antics are just the sort of behaviour that get a club and the game in the paper for the wrong reasons.

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HarryHotspur wrote:
Yup, being a twat is a pre-requisite of some quite useful footballers.


yeah true, my favourite footballer, oh ah CANTONA was a twat, Kevin Muscat is likewise and just look at Ronaldo, arguably the best attacking player in the world right now, a complete twat but they all perform/performed very well.  Petrovski is the same!
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Hard News wrote:
It's not about being friends with players , it's about building a club we can be proud of and Petrovski and co's antics are just the sort of behaviour that get a club and the game in the paper for the wrong reasons.


There is a bit to be said for that.

Take Mick Watson and his run at the Warriors. Its only in the last 2 years that we look at what he did there (and yes he did manage to get us to the Grand Final) and think what a dodgy prick he was with all his signing and backdoor contract dealings.

Look at them now under Wayne Scurrah. While Price and Wiki were Watson signings, when an Australian is leading the Queen St Santa parade, there is alot to be said for character buys vs performance buys. They are a club of model citizens for the most part.

I would suggest though that before we get into the argument of character vs ability, lets get somewhere first because if we ain't hitting the playoffs, then they could be the bloody Easter bunny in their spare time for all I care, it doesn't mean jack and unfortunately NZers (and more so Aucklanders) know only one currency - win. Win and the masses will come (look at the Warriors and Breakers attendance records when they win vs lose) Lose, and the press bag the sh*t out of them and the crowds don't go. We are notoriously fickle nation of bandwagoners in that respect (even the ABs get assholed when they win) so I would suggest until we get somewhere, ability should be the first criteria we look at as opposed to character. Hopefully, we can trust our club systems and culture that if a player that is slightly mal-aligned, he adjusts to the people around him.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Price is a bit unique though, one of the top 3 props in the world and the absolute model of what a sportsman should be.
For me if he helps us win then that should be the first thing that matters, If we are winning the media will give us some slack if someone is being a sh*thead

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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