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Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)

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nightz wrote:
energy24.7 wrote:
I don't really want to get into the slinging match, but clearly some people have got a chip on their shoulder about Bertos and are arguing everything other than genuine football talent.� Who knows, maybe he shagged their sister/girlfriend.
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Whatever it is, any criticism needs to be held till he has played for the Phoenix, within the Phoenix structure and game plan.

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I'm pretty sure there are plenty of cases where a player has not worked so well in one team, under one manager but after transfering has looked awesome.��And vice-versa.

Thats not to say that Bertos has even been crap for the Glory, or will be awesome for the Phoenix, we will have to wait and see.

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And just because a player comes off contract it doesn't mean Perth didn't still want him.� Players come off contract and evaluate their options.� As it is Bertos had the option of returning home to be under his National coach, close to his family so favoured the Phoenix contract.� Pretty fricken simple (and common sense) if you ask me, but still speculation so take what you will.

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Bertos has looked pretty good in the All Whites under Ricki, and I reckon he will thrive being home, with some of his good mates (Christie plus others I'm sure).

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I'm sure everyone here will admit he's sh*t if he doesn't perform this year, and�I damn well hope you knockers come back and face the music if he turns out to be awesome.

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One thing I would like to point out is that if a club really wants a player they would usually try to retain him before he comes off contract.

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Hope�"the knockers"�wasnt refferring to me. I was just asking the question. I am very very happy he's joining the Nix.


But the story quite clearly states that negotiations between Perth and Bertos failed, which means that they did train to re-sign him, but realised that they were fighting a losing battle.
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lolGreek-Boi2008-01-24 10:38:38
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Wooohhhooo...
im gonna live with leo!
nah jj.
i wasted him on fifa 07.
 
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nightz wrote:
 
One thing I would like to point out is that if a club really wants a player they would usually try to retain him before he comes off contract.
 
 
True but to re-sign a player you want the player also has to be interested in the contract. Perth may well have wanted to retain him but Bertos might have been more interested in returning to Wellington in the knowledge that he had a great chance of signing with the Phoenix. The guy probably has Phoenix posters all over his walls!
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Dwyer wrote:
Quite happy about Bertos being signed. What about you guys?
Who was that Braliain guy that's friends with Daniel there was a bit of publicity about a few months ago...? The possibility of him joining the club?
While I'm interested in fixing our defence, I'm also quite interested in who's going to be starting up front. Obviously Smeltz... But I wonder about Felipe satying?


seems to be some stumbling blocks there, I hope he does re-sign, but even though i rate him and would like to have him with us next season, he's not irreplaceable

 if he and his agent can't negotiate within our salary structure then i guess we just have to hope he doesn't go to another a-league side

i do wonder though what happened as the season went on  -due to injuries (and, perhaps, strategic selection by Ricki) he never quite kicked on from his early form

and i don't doubt his work-rate and commitment - he really came off hobbling a couple of times


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felipe has re signed hasent he
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Greek-Boi wrote:
felipe has re signed hasent he

Not as far as most people know.
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yomcat wrote:
He's a passing midfielder. That's about all I know about him...

Benicio was very impressive in the Team Wellington game against Waikato... intelligent runs, some glorious passing, and one shot which was so fiercely struck he almost knocked the Waikato keeper off his feet. I suspect you wouldn't want him to be tackling anyone to save your life, but he looks capable of playing at A-League level.
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haha typical brazilians cant tackle but good on the attack
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i hope felipe has resigned. much rather have him then elrich.
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What number will Bertos get?
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rodfarva wrote:
i hope felipe has resigned. much rather have him then elrich.


as of last weekend I'm pretty confident he hadn't - and I can't see any reason why the club wouldn't announce it  if/when it happens

Tony P has suggested that the current players are on a month's break and nothing would be 'decided' re current players' contracts in that time

so perhaps we can assume that Felipe hasn't re-signed and until we hear from a club source via the media that's how things remain




tigers2008-01-24 13:20:33
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the only player i know is defo gonna be here next season is smeltz as he told me hes on a 2 year contract as i was hoping he would re-sign and he told me when he signed it was for 2 seasons, that was on monday at the GGs
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masey wrote:
What number will Bertos get?
 
We'll wait until more infomation comes out about this.
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masey wrote:
What number will Bertos get?


Personally, I don't care if he wears an exclamation mark or an open bracket on his back as long as he plays well for us.
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12 seems to be his prefered number doesn't it.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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he plays 11 in the all whites , but Daniel has that number. If ross goes, Johnson should get the 7 and Leo the 12!
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The Vanuatu keeper had number '0' on his shirt............looked very odd. I didnt know you were allowed to do that!?
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so back on topic maybe chris james will come home hes playing in holland right
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Maybe we should try to stay on-topic?

EDIT: On ya, JJ.el grapadura2008-01-24 18:20:44
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Dunno where he's playing but he'd be a perfect signing for the Phoenix - Id say he'd suite the style of play that the phoenix play too... Same age as Djite, burns, patafta etc... could make a big impact??
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James obviously sees his future in Europe, but looking at those other guys mentioned it really doesn't look like their future prospects are being damaged. Nothing ever came out about why he pulled out of the U20 WC, any one got any info about that?

Normo's coming home

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jjjordan wrote:
so back on topic maybe chris james will come home hes playing in holland right


I think he's playing in Denmark.
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same difference
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Chris James is a very similar player to Leo, ie attacker, playmaker type. I hope Ricki and co will be looking at defenders. Ivan would be a very good start.
Ryan Nelsen is now starting to have difficulties with hamstring etc, maybe he'll be having to reconsider his future soon too. Nellie and Ivan  centre backs sounds great to me.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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What about Mulligan? He would fill the hole in right back and great at free kicks
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i agree mulligan would be good
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Mulligan = pies.
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Chris James is at Fulham, according to Wikipedia
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we have good enough attacking stocks.
we just need another striker and offload 1-2 and we will be fine.
its our defence we shoud be worried about.
why dont we talk about that
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One player that could be a possibility is Michael Reizeger. He's a top notch defender and from Holland. He's also out of contract at PSV and was rumoured to be interested in playing in the A League.
Would be a top notch signing!
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yeah ricki herbet did say that they looked at him  but he only wanted a guest stint.
and the phoenix didnt want that
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james dean wrote:
James obviously sees his future in Europe, but looking at those other guys mentioned it really doesn't look like their future prospects are being damaged. Nothing ever came out about why he pulled out of the U20 WC, any one got any info about that?



https://www.nzsoccer.com/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=19803

Citing family reasons but doesn't go into any elaboration. Stu Jacobs and NZF are fully understanding about his reasons.
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How many more mistakes do we need to see old make, he's so average.

He's been given numerous chances to prove and failed.

Dodd to stay and get in Ben Sigmond he was quality for the AW's

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Greek-Boi wrote:
we have good enough attacking stocks.
we just need another striker and offload 1-2 and we will be fine.
its our defence we shoud be worried about.
why dont we talk about that
 
Another striker would go a long way.... You never know ....possibly a Greek player may be coming in (currently playing in Europe)
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I have it on good authority that Stelios Giannakopoulus is going to sign for the nix
 
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What the guy who's with Bolton?  He's a regular on the bench for them in the EPL. Interesting to know what kind of dosh he's on, I would think he'd have to take a pay cut to come to us. Still, it would be an interesting signing.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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New Phoenix Signing unveils 2008/09 Season Away Kit...
 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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haha yes we signed a jamaican international with the nick name blanket man.
he gets that nick name becuase when he scores he pulls a blanket out of his shorts and puts it around him
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