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Phoenix vs Sydney

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hey man. just got back from the game. real good being there and a few supporters there. Umm the drop ball was because there were 2 balls on the feild wen bertos took the corner. shud have just let him take another corner. F**kn sh*t.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wellyphoenixfan wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
Haven't seen Scholes one, but McFlynn tried to score a goal, not stop one.Stopping one = redScoring one = yellow
Scholes scored it alright ill get the Youtube for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJX2eNmFG3U You can try look for a better quality one if you want.


You should watch that again WPF. Don't need better quality, just to watch it with both eyes.

Scoring = yellow
Stopping = red.

What did the referee do.....
Agent 472009-01-11 23:15:42
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
santaclause wrote:
hey man. just got back from the game. real good being there and a few supporters there. Umm the drop ball was because there were 2 balls on the feild wen bertos took the corner. shud have just let him take another corner. F**kn sh*t.


are you serious that is fu**n bullsh*t this ref gets sh**er by the minute
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
santaclause wrote:
hey man. just got back from the game. real good being there and a few supporters there. Umm the drop ball was because there were 2 balls on the feild wen bertos took the corner. shud have just let him take another corner. F**kn sh*t.
Wth are you sure, terrible game for the ref hopefully he gets suspended. Great noise you guys made at the game aswell
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, full credit on the noise.

Ben Williams is rubbish, and a disgrace whenever he refs us (despite getting two vital calls right).

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i would guess when a player gets a red the club fines the player?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:


wellyphoenixfan wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
Haven't seen Scholes one, but McFlynn tried to score a goal, not stop one.Stopping one = redScoring one = yellow
Scholes scored it alright ill get the Youtube for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJX2eNmFG3U You can try look for a better quality one if you want.
You should watch that again WPF. Don't need better quality, just to watch it with both eyes.Scoring = yellowStopping = red.What did the referee do.....
Oh yes sorry I just remember seeing it on the news and it only showed the ref pulling out the red.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scholes got a yellow which was obviously his second yellow as the ref then produces a red....and the onscreen graphic shows two yellows and converts them to a red......

Pretty clear to me......


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wellyphoenixfan wrote:
clark007e wrote:
im pretty sure these refs would be better if they were paid full time (im pretty sure they have two jobs) also what was the drop ball for after bertoses corner because i couldnt see what we did wrong
I think it was for that header the player took after it was taken though you are right about it being a part-time job. Can someone tell me the difference between Paul Scholes recent red for his hand ball and McFlynns?
 
Scholes was a yellow
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If you thought Ben Williams was bad (and he is), try watching the Perth v Melbourne game. Just about every decision given in the first half was the wrong one. Then it seems ref and assistant weren't on the same songsheet when it cme to time added on at the end of the half. Terrible standard of officiating. Unacceptable.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Coxey wrote:
Scholes got a yellow which was obviously his second yellow as the ref then produces a red....and the onscreen graphic shows two yellows and converts them to a red......Pretty clear to me......
Didn't look at the Youtube just searched it sorry for that.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
90 minutes. 90 dodgy referee decisions
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well 90 minutes, 90 emotions is also a very good slogan for unintented reasons however.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't know what sort of accountability the officials have in the A-League, but some of the decisions have been really really awful, and I don't know how some of them can be justified. I figured a professional football league would include a higher degree of competence amongst the officials. I'm not convinced by any means yet.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well I am guessing Tony P can make a complaint and I hope he will.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
santaclause wrote:
hey man. just got back from the game. real good being there and a few supporters there. Umm the drop ball was because there were 2 balls on the feild wen bertos took the corner. shud have just let him take another corner. F**kn sh*t.
 
good noise. could hear 'same old aussies' loud and clear

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wellyphoenixfan wrote:
Well I am guessing Tony P can make a complaint and I hope he will.


What about ?

They two key decisions were right, the lack of a penalty on two occasions was  questionable but nothing he'd get censured for, inequality of cards, unlikely to be any result.
Hard News2009-01-11 23:28:41

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
wellyphoenixfan wrote:
Well I am guessing Tony P can make a complaint and I hope he will.
What about ?They two key decisions were right, the lack of a penalty on two occasions was� questionable but nothing he'd get censured for, inequality of cards, unlikely to be any result.
I didn't say I expected him to just that I hope he would, has any ref ever even been suspended anyway?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hearfield can only blame himself. I don't think Ben Williams had a choice. It was technically a straight red for retaliation. Hard to argue it I think.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
who has better refs NZFC or the a league i havent been to many NZFC games so cant comment can anyone here say honestly the a league refs are better
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'd quantify the officiating like this.

1: They lost Shield. 1 of the top 10 in the world.
2: The dude Pryzdacs retired. Another good one.
3: Peter Green - another good ref hasn't been seen much of.
4: in trying to blood new refs, the likes of Chris Beath and Streb delovski are getting used. Not the most experienced.
5: Ben Williams is always going to be Ben Williams. He has been better this year on the whole than other times. Maybe ACL experience helps.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's only been better because he hasn't reffed us.

NZFC refs are a bit Meh, the best is Peter O'Leary and currently he's probably also the best ref in the A-League as well. 

I can think of a couple of NZFC ones who are just dreadful.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What happened to Sheild? Also that Asian lineswomen has impressed me with some of her calls (Not in this game but in others) any chance she could get promoted?wellyphoenixfan2009-01-11 23:34:48
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it can't be as hard for the officials in the a-league as it is in, say, the english premier league, where the pace of the game is so much quicker. so how come so many decisions are so poor here at this level?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
There was an NZFC ref suspended for posting in here I think. News?

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
There was an NZFC ref suspended for posting in here I think. News?
What did he say?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
what did he say i also want to know
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nothing of note, just offering opinions and being a functioning member of the New Zealand football community.

I think he posted the other day actually.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh ok so he didn't get suspended for saying anything bad then?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No, the powers that be just decided that as a referee he wasn't allowed to have opinions so he got suspended by them.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
.... sh*t.

Had money on a win.

Good plays, just not good enough. Frustrated Kwasta got a hammy. But oh well, Adelaide don't have a spectacular away record? Am I correct?

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
I'd quantify the officiating like this.

1: They lost Shield. 1 of the top 10 in the world.
2: The dude Pryzdacs retired. Another good one.
3: Peter Green - another good ref hasn't been seen much of.
4: in trying to blood new refs, the likes of Chris Beath and Streb delovski are getting used. Not the most experienced.
5: Ben Williams is always going to be Ben Williams. He has been better this year on the whole than other times. Maybe ACL experience helps.



Delovski is the best ref in the league. Lets the game flow.

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Nothing of note, just offering opinions and being a functioning member of the New Zealand football community.

I think he posted the other day actually.
 
tell me who it is so I can give HIM a red card

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
haha the guy probably deserves it......
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think matthew breeze and peter green are the best.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Breeze?? You're 'avin a laugh, surely?

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
not even a giggle. i think he's really much more competent now and stepped up since shield retired.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
agree somewhat pao. He's probably off to south africa and will benefit from being number 1. has looked better this year.
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