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Player rantings v Jet Planes

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Honestly, the only team worse than us at this stage is North Queensland. Of course, that can change in the space of a couple of games.

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well after watching the highlights, we seem to just not be using our potential. We have quality players but where the heck are our creative players in the middle?????  Wasn't that our biggest problem last year? ??? I wish costa had played because he would have had a similar effect as Bertos with his pace I think.

Come on Phoenix. We are better!!


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A change will come, early days yet. Once combinations have settled the team will look a lot more like a..... team.
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
It's awful supporting the Phoenix.  They can't just play crap and you accept it because continually, hanging over your head is the prospect of being kicked out of the league.  Why can't we just play crap (or average) and not have that threat.  I'd be able to sleep so much easier. 

Does anybody here actually believe that we will come 8th or higher?


Not on that effort. Every other team, including the losers, played way better than we did. We MUST improve out of sight to get anywhere near 8th.

I take heart in our efforts last year after the 6-1 Adelaide spanking. Hoping for same sort of improvement and guts
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Have to agree with allt he comments around the midfield. I don't mind if you play two DMs away from home if one keeps the shape and the other is basically negating the AM of the opposing side but here McKain was trying to run the show from just in front of the back 4 while Vignaroli (sp?) was able to run the show form whereever he so chose... if Brown was on the park to do a role it was surley to nullify Vignaroli because:
 
a) Brown cannot run any other lines other than box to box.
b) Brown does not like actuially touching the ball hence we always have to lob it over the midfield (ie kick and hope) from the back
c) When Brown does touch the ball he ALWAYS play it backwards or a 2 foot pass to the lcosest person to him.
 
The Nix and the AWs have exactly the same problems...
 
1) Leaking back 4
2) No link in the midfield 
 
Both the Nix and the Aws can fix 1 but McKain and Elliot must feel like they are been opunsihed by playing with Brick-Boots Brown in the midfield... he is appalling..
 
Sorry to be so negative but I relaly hate supporting a team(s) with a player who I challenge anyone to justify his selection.. it makes it worse when he is one of the senor players too..
 
Other than that Bertos was magic. Very hard when you have to do it all yourself...
 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

all we need is a decent attacking midfielder,
                         decent attacking midfielder
                          decent attacking midfielder

(and more organised defense) 
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone else said Iifil is aweful? Glad Greenacre works hard for the team but Iifil seemed lazy and disinterested.
 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He clearly wasn't fully fit so I think you're being a bit harsh on him. 

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
It's awful supporting the Phoenix.  They can't just play crap and you accept it because continually, hanging over your head is the prospect of being kicked out of the league.  Why can't we just play crap (or average) and not have that threat.  I'd be able to sleep so much easier. 

Does anybody here actually believe that we will come 8th or higher?


It was the 1st game of the season, FFS. Start wailing and gnashing teeth if we're still looking the same 10 games in.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ballane wrote:
Yep the seasons up and running ratings back again.Agree mostly but as much as i to disagree dont think siggy deserved that rating.Yep he scored but far to many holes at the back and they wernt all Durrante


Agree with that - Siggy not as bad as Durante, but still poor. And how did Brown get 5? The only time you knew he was on the pitch was when he was fouling people.

Leo was all class though. Great work from him.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jag wrote:
loyalgunner wrote:
It's awful supporting the Phoenix.  They can't just play crap and you accept it because continually, hanging over your head is the prospect of being kicked out of the league.  Why can't we just play crap (or average) and not have that threat.  I'd be able to sleep so much easier. 

Does anybody here actually believe that we will come 8th or higher?


It was the 1st game of the season, FFS. Start wailing and gnashing teeth if we're still looking the same 10 games in.


That would be a reasonable response if we'd just played Gold Coast, but we haven't.  We played Newcastle...
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah not a great start. But a longs ways to go yet. Come on were better than the A** Bl**k "Supporters"

Thought Greenacre was about a 7. Other than that fair enough.

Big crowd this Sunday.

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
See, we can score goals without you-know-who. 2 in one game as well!!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
See, we can score goals without you-know-who. 2 in one game as well!!
 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
Jag wrote:
loyalgunner wrote:
It's awful supporting the Phoenix.  They can't just play crap and you accept it because continually, hanging over your head is the prospect of being kicked out of the league.  Why can't we just play crap (or average) and not have that threat.  I'd be able to sleep so much easier. 

Does anybody here actually believe that we will come 8th or higher?


It was the 1st game of the season, FFS. Start wailing and gnashing teeth if we're still looking the same 10 games in.


That would be a reasonable response if we'd just played Gold Coast, but we haven't.  We played Newcastle...
 
So.  Looks like there are two types of supporters - glass half full/half empty.
 
Can't compare with the longevity of some of you re supporting the Nix but my football teams all require a certain amount of optimism (and possibly self-delusion) to support over the last 30+ years.  Plus on top of that  any Wgtn team supporter must surely have an above average dose of optimism otherwise we'd all be bitter and twisted and taking blood pressure pills.
 
There's always next week (as Mike Cashley said to the Nigerian Consortium last year).
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tablemanners wrote:
Have to agree with allt he comments around the midfield. I don't mind if you play two DMs away from home if one keeps the shape and the other is basically negating the AM of the opposing side but here McKain was trying to run the show from just in front of the back 4 while Vignaroli (sp?) was able to run the show form whereever he so chose... if Brown was on the park to do a role it was surley to nullify Vignaroli because:
 
a) Brown cannot run any other lines other than box to box.
b) Brown does not like actuially touching the ball hence we always have to lob it over the midfield (ie kick and hope) from the back
c) When Brown does touch the ball he ALWAYS play it backwards or a 2 foot pass to the lcosest person to him.
 
The Nix and the AWs have exactly the same problems...
 
1) Leaking back 4
2) No link in the midfield 
 
Both the Nix and the Aws can fix 1 but McKain and Elliot must feel like they are been opunsihed by playing with Brick-Boots Brown in the midfield... he is appalling..
 
Sorry to be so negative but I relaly hate supporting a team(s) with a player who I challenge anyone to justify his selection.. it makes it worse when he is one of the senor players too..
 
Other than that Bertos was magic. Very hard when you have to do it all yourself...
 
 
Brown had a bad game. Doesn't mean he's the worst player. McKain had a average game, and the defence was very bad.
 
I think with the All Whites they should have Chris James in there as a linking player. With the Nix I want to see Bertos and Costa start, with Hearfield on the bench. Or start Ifill from the bench...
 
and play a 4-3-3...
 
Lia or Mulligan on the right in midfield?


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When is Chen fit?
 
Play Chen and Greenacres togehter and Ifill sitting behind them in an AM/CM role

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
interesting...I think our best attack was with Smeltz-Hearfield( or Costa) and Leo running across the front. But I think Ifill might be better sitting just in behind...perhaps I should take this over to the game thread...


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I feel we need quick fast players would have been good to have Chen and Barbi on the bench at least. Daniel is a midfielder. Was a poor and very disappointing team  performance apart from Bertos. Paston didnt commit 100% to smothering first goal.The better team won. Their asian wreaked havoc down our left flank, maybe Chen could do that for us.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't confuse Chinese and Korea players dude! Koreans generally much better...hoping to be proved wrong....


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